Studs and duds KC

[OldSchool101]

Rodgers showed flashes of being an impact player in his first real game time against the Cowboys. That's the real difference

As long as You are comparing a 2007 contest.. let’s get more recent

How about something more recent. Say…

Rodgers first Road game in 2021??

 

[BrokenArrow]

I thought he showed accuracy today when he was playing in rhythm and his footwork was there. But for large swathes of the night he was playing out of control and his mechanics were messy.

Understandable when the OL isn't doing you any favors. He was scrambling or throwing from a collapsed pocket on almost every play.

 

[ctfxcwatcher]

So we are giving Rodgers the overwhelming majority of credit for the 13-3 seasons then? Why did we draft a 1st round QB then if that's the case, and why have fans been clamoring for JLove


An average QB is able to put up more than 7 points

I personally have not been clamoring for Love. Idk how other fans feels but me? I'm trying to enjoy as much of Rodgers we have left. The Packers were very very lucky to land 2 back 2 back HOF QB's. There is no guarantee Love will be a HOF as these types of QB's don't fall out of the sky. Aaron is very much the brain and heart of this team & anyone who denies that is lying to themselves.

 

[BrokenArrow]

An average QB is able to put up more than 7 points

In truth, you have absolutely no way of knowing that. Our OL didn't show up at all in terms of pass blocking.

 

[OldSchool101]

15-28 53.7% 133yds

0-2INT 36.8 rating 3pts scored week 1 on the road

Anyone care to guess which QB this was and which season it was??

 

[OldSchool101]

Exactly.

There's not much that Love showed tonight that give me a lot of confidence. If you'll notice, oldschool, I didn't mention anything about his numbers. He just doesn't pass the eye test for me right now.

Oh that’s fine. Rodgers didn’t either in his first game this season though is my point. Good thing we didn’t yank him for Love after his 1st road game this year.

You would’ve really been confused what to do next!

 

[Deleted member 6794]

As mentioned in another thread Love had some good plays and some bad ones but that was to be expected. The main conclusion the Packers most likely will have to make out of yesterday's game is that they won't be able to feel confident about trading Rodgers this offseason to hand over to reigns to Love though.

At what point does Joe Barry get his apologies?

I remember getting roasted just for saying I found him to be interesting as a DC candidate.

I was pretty vocal about not liking the Packers hiring Barry based on his lack of success during previous stints as a defensive coordinator. Boy was I wrong about that. He has done an excellent job with the unit, especially considering the injuries on that side of the ball.

Would have rather seen AZ win the game last week on the final drive than this.

It's definitely better to lose to an AFC opponent than to a team the Packers are competing with for the #1 seed.

Newman looks outmatched. I don't know why we moved from Nijman. That was working.

There's no doubt the offensive line benefits from having Jenkins start at left tackle instead of Nijman. The interior line needs to play better though.

Aaron Jones didn't have any catches, can't remember the last game where that happened, Carolina in 2019?

2019, week 15 vs. the Bears.

 

[Shaggy]

I honestly think MLF didn't give Love a chance to succeed. Yeah Love had some bad throws but when you have a rookie out there, you need to help him out with alot more run plays and quick throws. That didn't happen alot in the first half.

 

[milani]

Dud: Gameplan, I'm not sure how you get through a game like this and only manage 20 carries between your top two backs. Dillon in particular with his 5.8 ypc deserved a few more carries at least.

For certain. Even if it meant using up more clock. Anytime you do not have 12 you must run the football.

 

[milani]

If Rodgers plays we blow KC out. Unreal how Crosby can’t be counted on anymore. He barley makes his damn extra points without it hooking smh. I’m out on him they need a younger BETTER kicker at this point.

The rest of the FG unit is in question as well.

 

[gopkrs]

There's no doubt the offensive line benefits from having Jenkins start at left tackle instead of Nijman. The interior line needs to play better though.

I think there is a doubt when Jenkins could really help the interior. Nijman may need help but when he was playing there was less of a pass rush.

 

[gopkrs]

I honestly think MLF didn't give Love a chance to succeed. Yeah Love had some bad throws but when you have a rookie out there, you need to help him out with alot more run plays and quick throws. That didn't happen alot in the first half.

When Love missed that very first pass; I thought well that was terrible. Did not give me much confidence going forward. I'm not down on Love yet but he needs to calm down and make all of the easy throws.

 

[Krabs]

@PackAttack12
I know you’re a staunch Rodgers supporter beyond normal. So let me offer this as some comfort.
In Rodgers 1st-2 seasons here’s where we stood after his first 30+ attempts.

RODGERS
15/31 48.3% 111 passing 0 TD 1 INT

LOVE
19/34 55.9% 190 passing 1TD 1 INT

Can you imagine how egregious an error it would have been to give up on him?

Pretty hard to judge either on that sample size considering they had zero quality 1st team reps.

When I saw Rodgers in his first meaningful snaps I could tell right away we had something with him. He looked good and I could tell he had the "it" factor. Set the stats aside, I did not see that in Love. He did not pass the ole eyeball test. Is what it is though.

 

[Krabs]

I was not impressed with Love. I didn't think he was accurate at all outside of 5 yards. Here's to hoping Rodgers is ready to go vs the Seahags and remains healthy all year.

 

[PikeBadger]

Tae showed continued flashes even as a rookie (Dolphins game, cowboys playoff game, etc).. as a QB you don't get the same amount of leyway that a WR gets.. not when you're following 2 legends and playing around a team who had back to back 13-3 seasons and was 7-1 heading into today's game

You get the leeway the coaches think you deserve. To he!! with what knee jerk fans think. They have zero say in the matter of development. Look at Adams 2nd year as a player. There was a cluster of these type of fans here that proclaimed he needed to be cut, as he was already a bust.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

You get the leeway the coaches think you deserve. To he!! with what knee jerk fans think. They have zero say in the matter of development. Look at Adams 2nd year as a player. There was a cluster of these type of fans here that proclaimed he needed to be cut, as he was already a bust.

It's useless to debate with someone that probably had their mind made up 18 months ago when they disagreed with Love being drafted. I never agreed with the pick either, but I understood it and wanted to watch how it panned out. Love is far from being done in Green Bay.

 

[OldSchool101]

I agree about Drayton but who do we get to take his place at this point in the season?

Ok ok. I’ll do it

Wait.. what’s my payplan?

 

[Arod2gjdd]

Need to start with Jordan Love:

He ain't it. If you want to tell yourself it was one game, be my guest. He isn't the answer; MM, Gute, and MLF would do best to recognize this and cut their losses. He has poor footwork, makes no throws in rhythm, looks to escape the pocket far too quickly, lacks processing speed and accuracy, and throws an ugly ball. He looked jittery, timid, and made some truly atrocious looking throws. Even the short, easy ones looked difficult. He barely gave the best receiver in football a chance. I'm not sure what they saw that warranted picking him where they did, but I am certain what we all saw last night. 3rd and 8 might as well have been 3rd and 50. The only hope he had of picking it up was with his legs. He will never be a good, never mind great, NFL starting quarterback. Never. This is a harsh reaction, but this is a harsh league. He can't play, we all know it. Gute has made some terrific moves, especially on defense, and Rodgers recognizes them. Love is not one. This marriage may be tenable. The FO needs to go to Rodgers on their knees, acknowledge their mistake, and offer to do whatever it takes to extend him. Trust your eyes, and hope that the FO does the same.

Stud

Defense-Bailed out the rest of the team and gave them a chance repeatedly
Savage-All over the place, this was what I envisioned when he was drafted #26 overall
Gary-Force
Barnes & Burks-A few great tackles
Dillon-Should have ridden him more

Dud

Special Teams meltdown
O-Line-Didn't help Love much
Love

 

[PikeBadger]

The predicament is that more than likely, this is the last game the Packers will see Love play for the rest of the season. Makes it more and more difficult to pull the trigger on moving on from Rodgers.

Gute would never admit this, but I think he's sweating a little after this game. Because it's going to be near impossible to keep Rodgers for next season at his current cap number, but at the same time there's no way he can feel comfortable with moving on to Love just yet.

He better be figuring out how to appease Rodgers to talk him into restructuring to come back.

Either that, or there could be some serious lumps taken next season in the first year of the Love regime.

Sort of like Rodgers first season as a starter? It takes more courage to move forward than to do nothing being paralyzed with fear of failure.

 

[PFanCan]

And they all didn't play on teams who had back to back 13-3 seasons and we're #1 in the conference did they?

IDK, but gauging from your rhetorical question, I am guessing that the answer is no.

So, according to you, a QB worth keeping is one that has solid games from the start, especially if they are playing on a good team. Got it.

So we are giving Rodgers the overwhelming majority of credit for the 13-3 seasons then? Why did we draft a 1st round QB then if that's the case, and why have fans been clamoring for JLove


An average QB is able to put up more than 7 points

In addition to the TD, Love got the offense down the field enough for two relatively easy FGs, which were missed. If Crosby makes both, it’s a tie game at 13.

Lastly, Rodgers “put up” only 3 in NO recently.

 

[Arod2gjdd]

I'm not writing his NFL obituary, but that was a pretty bad outing for him.

I'll do it. He will never be a good NFL QB. Never.

 

[Arod2gjdd]

This game made me more confident in the present and less confident in the future.

Well-said.

 

[AmishMafia]

I expected better play from Love. He didn't throw the ball well. He got better late in the game so that was encouraging. The defense definitely sold out on blitzing him. Thought there should have been some better play calling with quick slants to Adams or Cobb and a few deep throws to MVS. The OLine looked poor. They were exploited by poor play calling as well.

The defense, however, shined. Especially noteworthy were Barnes and the CBs as a whole.

Special Teams is such a enigma. We can't seem to ever get support in that phase.

Rodgers sure makes QB play look easy. Hope Love can build on this and be more at ease in his next chance. He looked much better in the preseason. Hope MLF will learn just as much in offensive play calling for Love as well. MLF is a very good coach candidate seems to adapt quickly. It's nice not to heat about pad level in every post game conference.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The main conclusion the Packers most likely will have to make out of yesterday's game is that they won't be able to feel confident about trading Rodgers this offseason to hand over to reigns to Love though.

While I agree that Love doesn't look ready to be a starter in the NFL, the Packers will have to decide if they want something for Rodgers via a trade or possibly get very little or nothing if they put the decision off a year.

If I had the choice of Rodgers walking in 2023 and the Packers getting nothing but a potential 2024 3rd round comp. pick or trading him for some decent draft picks this coming March, I would trade him.

 

[jhawk008]

It wasn't nearly as bad as the Saints game a couple months ago.

Difference is we have the luxury of knowing and seeing the opposite of Rodgers.

If he had played that bad against the cowboys when he finally got real game time, idk if the Pack are as ready to move on from Favre.

I can't believe I have to type that out, it's plainly obvious