Number one seed stud n dud

[sschind]

I hope Derrick Henry wins MVP...as long as any packer on the 53 wins super bowl MVP.
Honestly though, Rodgers deserves this. He had a career season. But again, right now I’m 10x more interested in a Super Bowl than that. Rodgers hopefully is too.

I'm guessing that if it was an either or situation every Packer fan and Rodgers himself would say the same thing but since the two are not mutually exclusive why not hope he wins the MVP. He can still be the SB MVP.

 

[JK64]

Scantling is a DUD lol

That’s right he’s a dud and you can add Special Teams to that list.

 

[bigbubbatd]

Studs are so many - Rodgers, offensive line. run defense, Jaire, Jones, our safeties, etc. Honestly this team is just so fun to watch on offense and the defense is really starting to hold its own. Since the Vikings loss the defense has only had one bad game - the Colts. The gave up more than 20 just 2 other times and one of those involved two late scores in a game they were up 31 - the Bears. The other was the Lions which they gave up 24.

Duds - I wont harp on the others (MVS, Special Teams, etc) but I did not like pass defense game plan. We played way too soft on coverage. Trubisky was given easy throw after easy throw. You force him into passes over 5 yards and he makes mistakes (shown by his int and a couple other near ints). The run defense was really good holding Montgomery to 3.1 ypc

 

[thisisnate]

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[gopkrs]

Don't think King deserves the negatives as he got. He is playing with a lot of intensity which (the intensity of everyone) is what is driving this new D. I don't think him playing way off receivers is his idea.
Nobody singled out Aaron Jones who played an excellent game.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

This game was MVS in a microcosm. Used his blazing speed to get open for a long TD, showing real promise, only to follow that with what could have been a killer drop.

James Jones used have a problem with drops before he figured it out. Some here had labeled Davante Adams "paddle hands" before he became an elite receiver. And Jermichael Finley was often a drop waiting to happen.

So there's still hope for MVS. That said, the clock is ticking, so he needs get this fixed sooner rather than later.

 

[Do7]

Scantling is a DUD lol

That’s right he’s a dud and you can add Special Teams to that list.

Snoops I'm sad you feel that way. But how does him catching a 72 yard TD make someone a dud? Because he dropped an easy TD pass? Hasn't Adams and Lazard done that this season, and we forgave them? Give me a legitimate reason why we are dismissing his 72 yard TD? A Dud to me is like an F or D- at worse.

MVS at worse yesterday got a C and at best a B. If we're grading yesterday like it was a test he would've passed.

 

[tynimiller]

Snoops I'm sad you feel that way. But how does him catching a 72 yard TD make someone a dud? Because he dropped an easy TD pass? Hasn't Adams and Lazard done that this season, and we forgave them?

You cannot forgive the man that is the sole reason we are not undefeated at this point. IF Rodgers doesn't win the MVP it is also MVS's fault. Did you know MVS is who hurt Bahk at practice too....

 

[PackerRyche]

I don't usually comment on the stud/dud conversations, but I got a real charge out of Dafney. Catches the TD and then absolutely smokes the return guy on the ensuing kickoff. That guy is a football player. He'll be telling that story to his grandkids.

 

[tynimiller]

I don't usually comment on the stud/dud conversations, but I got a real charge out of Dafney. Catches the TD and then absolutely smokes the return guy on the ensuing kickoff. That guy is a football player. He'll be telling that story to his grandkids.

Dafney has been one of the quiet unsung stories of the 2020 campaign for us here towards the end of the year. His emergence and apparent tools to cover the Deguara injury loss has been exciting.

 

[Mondio]

I don't usually comment on the stud/dud conversations, but I got a real charge out of Dafney. Catches the TD and then absolutely smokes the return guy on the ensuing kickoff. That guy is a football player. He'll be telling that story to his grandkids.

I didn’t even realize he was on the team and he catches a touchdown and I thought the same thing you did when I saw him blow up that return. You could tell he wanted to play NFL football.

 

[tynimiller]

Dafney has been with the team for a little while now. His blocking isn't as sharp but Lordy he is as they say "willing" to engage type blocker which can make up for technique sometimes.

 

[PackerRyche]

Dafney has been with the team for a little while now. His blocking isn't as sharp but Lordy he is as they say "willing" to engage type blocker which can make up for technique sometimes.

Maybe he should take over as ST coach

 

[4Ever4Favre]

Everyone who is criticizing King because of his tackling has probably never played the game. We are talking about a guy who giving up at least 10-20 lbs to WR and maybe more to RBs and you think he should just go wrap everyone up. He’d get his *** run over.

What I saw was a CB who is not afraid to get in there and throw his body (with intensity) into the ball carrier. Dude is opposite the best CB in the NFL so he is getting targeted in the pass game often and playing well.

I’m personally glad we have King opposite Jaire, makes for a great CB tandem!

 

[PikeBadger]

My thoughts:

Aaron Jones - turning 2 yard gains into 8 by breaking leg tackles. Incredible game in both the running and passing game. He won’t be easy to replace.

O-line - Patrick and Turner were terrific IMO. This unit no matter the configuration has really been the foundational block upon which our offensive success is predicated.

Krys Barnes - love watching the aggressiveness he brings. We need one more hungry animal like that in the middle of the defense.

Bears defense - Very good unit. Aggressive and hard tackling. I thought they did a very good job covering our short and intermediate routes. Rodgers had to look off his first option more often than I’m used to seeing. They didn’t have the answer for covering Scantling on deep routes. We need to continue to throw that bomb at least once per half.

David Montgomery- very tough runner. Plays much, much bigger than his size.

Scantling - Made three good plays with the ball, one bad one. He’s the Brad Jones/Jarrett Bush/John Kuhn of 2020 especially now that Shepherd is gone and the defense is playing better.

Pretty good game plan by LaFleur and Rodgers executed it very well I thought. Special teams is still very bad. Blocking on returns is horrible.

A 19 point win on the road against a playoff bound arch rival is plenty of reason to be satisfied.

We are a very tough team to beat right now.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Duds - I wont harp on the others (MVS, Special Teams, etc) but I did not like pass defense game plan. We played way too soft on coverage. Trubisky was given easy throw after easy throw. You force him into passes over 5 yards and he makes mistakes (shown by his int and a couple other near ints).

I agree to some extent, but either Pettine made a change at halftime or the players themselves did. In the first half the bears were picking up big chunks of yards on short dump offs to the right or the left. The Packers defense seemed to stop that bleeding in the second half and only allowed the Bears 3 points in the process.

Definitely would like to see the defense improve in the 1st and 3rd Q's of games.

1st Q: Ave. 4.4 points (13th in league)
2nd Q: Ave. 5.8 (3rd)
3rd Q: Ave. 5.1 (18th)
4th Q: Ave. 7.6 (18th)

The Packer offense is a curious beast this season. Given what both the offense and the defense has done, I wish we could play four 2nd Quarters.

1st Q: Ave. 5 points (17th in league)
2nd Q: Ave. 13.7 (1st)
3rd Q: Ave. 6.4 (4th)
4th Q: Ave. 6.7 (22nd)

The 4th Q doesn't alarm me, since we have typically been playing with a lead. The 1st Q surprised me, since up until a few games ago, we had scored on every first drive of the game. Opponents also seem to be coming out with the strategy of "limit Rodgers possessions".

For the playoffs, I hope the Packers can score right out of the gate and establish some nasty on defense. When both sides of the ball are clicking, this team is going to be hard to beat.

 

[Do7]

Scantling - Made three good plays with the ball, one bad one. He’s the Brad Jones/Jarrett Bush/John Kuhn of 2020 especially now that Shepherd is gone and the defense is playing better.

But one bad play is enough to condemn him for some, even though it didn't cost us the game like it did in Indy.

 

[tynimiller]

But one bad play is enough to condemn him for some, even though it didn't cost us the game like it did in Indy.

100% - literally cut him, not just from the roster, make him bleed for his transgressions and failings for Green Bay.

Just trying to fit in better on the forums with this comment.

 

[PikeBadger]

I agree to some extent, but either Pettine made a change at halftime or the players themselves did. In the first half the bears were picking up big chunks of yards on short dump offs to the right or the left. The Packers defense seemed to stop that bleeding in the second half and only allowed the Bears 3 points in the process.

Definitely would like to see the defense improve in the 1st and 3rd Q's of games.

1st Q: Ave. 4.4 points (13th in league)
2nd Q: Ave. 5.8 (3rd)
3rd Q: Ave. 5.1 (18th)
4th Q: Ave. 7.6 (18th)

The Packer offense is a curious beast this season. Given what both the offense and the defense has done, I wish we could play four 2nd Quarters.

1st Q: Ave. 5 points (17th in league)
2nd Q: Ave. 13.7 (1st)
3rd Q: Ave. 6.4 (4th)
4th Q: Ave. 6.7 (22nd)

The 4th Q doesn't alarm me, since we have typically been playing with a lead. The 1st Q surprised me, since up until a few games ago, we had scored on every first drive of the game. Opponents also seem to be coming out with the strategy of "limit Rodgers possessions".

For the playoffs, I hope the Packers can score right out of the gate and establish some nasty on defense. When both sides of the ball are clicking, this team is going to be hard to beat.

IMO, one failure of statistics commonly used is “averages/means”. I think in a small sample size of 16 games, a truer picture derives from using “the median” numbers. Giving up or scoring 24 or 28 in a quarter means you need three games of 0 just to get back to the league average.
I applaud your time and effort in researching however.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

IMO, one failure of statistics commonly used is “averages/means”. I think in a small sample size of 16 games, a truer picture derives from using “the median” numbers. Giving up or scoring 24 or 28 in a quarter means you need three games of 0 just to get back to the league average.
I applaud your time and effort in researching however.

I agree to some extent with you and would also say when only fractions of points separate you from being "4th or 10", those 16 games don't give you a full picture. However, there is no doubt in my mind that the 2nd Q. has been THE Packer Q this year, especially on offense. Not sure what happens or why, but I can point to a number of games where the lights just seem to come on. Yesterday being another of them, 21 points. First game with the Bears, 21 points in the 2nd Q as well.

 

[rodell330]

I’m just glad we won and got #1. I honestly feel like the NFCG is going to be us vs the Buccs in a rematch.

 

[JK64]

I’m just glad we won and got #1. I honestly feel like the NFCG is going to be us vs the Buccs in a rematch.

Not really. The Packers will in all likelihood play the bucs first after the bye.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I’m just glad we won and got #1. I honestly feel like the NFCG is going to be us vs the Buccs in a rematch.

Either the Bears or the Rams will have to win for that to happen. I think we see the Bucs in our next game.

 

[tynimiller]

Not really. The Packers will in all likelihood play the bucs first after the bye.

I would agree, Rams are the only underdog I think has a chance.

 

[Guacamole]

Did you know MVS is who hurt Bahk at practice too....

Have any info about this?