Lions studs and duds

[pacmaniac]

Duds: the people on this forum who year after year after year say the Bucs and then the 9ers and then the Lions won’t show up because they can’t handle the cold.

 

[melvin dangerr]

Changes need to be addressed in the off season, even Mason Crosby should be on the table

 

[BrokenArrow]

Yes. Teams like the Lions and Jags should eventually improve after picking in the top 5 for years. We should get a pick in the early teens this year.

We have the 15th pick.

 

[melvin dangerr]

I think Love would want Bak protecting his backside should AR retire or get traded.

Nijman has got to go, he was abused and misused tonight

 

[melvin dangerr]

This is probably why we don't have a smash mouth team. It's hard to put together a great team in the trenches when you're picking around #30 every year.

Thought we looked smash mouth last week but I’m thinking to much joy juice this week clotted my vision

 

[Pugger]

We have the 15th pick.

Ok, thanks.

 

[Pugger]

Thought we looked smash mouth last week but I’m thinking to much joy juice this week clotted my vision

They did handle the Vikes better than the Lions. Don't be surprised to see Detroit win this division next season.

 

[Packerbacker1996]

Let's add Lafleur's playcalling in to the Dud category.

Studs
Watson, can't wait to see him next season with JLO throwing him the ball.

 

[LambeauLombardi]

I think Love would want Bak protecting his backside should AR retire or get traded.

The week to week uncertainty HAS TO BE a headache for the coaching staff. We were lucky Tom came in and did a good job in the 2nd half of the year. No one will dispute his toughness and how well he's done here, but it feels like the second coming of JJ Watt with him being out at any given time.

 

[melvin dangerr]

This is the first time in his career Rodgers did not have a 300+passing game and if this is it for him Brett Farve finished his career as a Packer with and INT

 

[OldSchool101]

That's fine.

Now talk about Aaron Jones fumbling in just about every big game. Or the offensive line routinely making things more difficult for the running game, and for Rodgers in the passing game. Or receives dropping perfectly placed footballs. Or freaking David Bakhtiari of all people with a holding penalty.

There were drops on both sides. It was slippery weather. For the most part Receivers caught well. I remember 3 drops that were potential catches and similar on Detroit. However I remember DOUBLE that # throws that were drastically off target or out of bounds. 1 was an INT that was reversed that didn’t make the stat book. Not to mention the sack he took that could’ve knocked us out if FG range. He’s been doing that all season! Rodgers played C- ball and that’s being generous. We can get C- ball for a lot less than $50,000,000 annual. No thank you.

Did everyone else play A+?? No. But everyone else isn’t being paid $50,000,000 guaranteed! When you are The Leader and highest paid player on any sports team? In basketball your best player can’t score 11 points and 4 rebounds in a Playoff game. Big things are expected for Big $$. If Giannis did that every year? He’d be packing his bags.

This Offense scored +16 and gave up -6 on a Rodgers INT and a turnover on downs or a +10 net points at home. Rodgers dodged another bullet that was an automatic -3 or possible -7 on another INT that were not even accounting for. That’s pultry level and it’s been regular now for 4 years running. Enough already.

No Defense, not even SF49ers can overcome this Rodgers led Offense regularly. Scrap this now or we’ll be 2027 before we’re legit again.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Oh screw that. There's no place in this thread for talking about anyone other than Rodgers.

Step back and take a breath .

 

[OldSchool101]

Duds: the people on this forum who year after year after year say the Bucs and then the 9ers and then the Lions won’t show up because they can’t handle the cold.

I think most people said the Lions Goff led Offense would have trouble. At least I don’t recall who said the entire team, but there might be an exception.

The Lions scored their 3rd and 4th lowest point totals over a 17 game season in their two games in GB. Not too good for a 6th ranked Offense.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Rodgers definitely didn't play a great game but it's ludicrous to solely blame him for the loss. First of all, I don't know how many drops the receivers had but even if I'm going with a pretty low number of three Rodgers threw only another seven incompletions during the entire game. In addition the protection by the offensive line was shaky at best.

And before some of you jump all over me, I agree he deserves part of the blame for the loss, there's no doubt about it.

But, there are other reasons the team lost as well.

- The entire red zone offense was off with the running game contributing to it (two carries for one yard on the first drive, an average of 3.7 yards per attempt for the game).
- MLF going for on it 4th-and-1 on their own 32 in the first quarter with them being up 3-0. In addition a terrible play call in that situation, resulting in three points for the Lions.
- Jones fumbling on the Lions 24, taking most likely at least three points off the board.
- The defense allowing Detroit to move the ball 75 yards in 1:15 minute after the fumble just before halftime, resulting in another three points for the Lions.
- MLF kicking a field goal from 53 yards when it was probable Crosby's range was about 48/49 yards in those conditions instead of punting it.
- The defense giving up a long completion on the second play after that resulting in a touchdown for the Lions on the very next play.

Once again, I'm not suggesting Rodgers doesn't deserve any blame but it's ignorant to ignore any of those plays listed above as reasons the Packers came up short.

Nope. What hand did Tonyan have in it? What hand did Dillon have in it? How was Dillon a dud? Because he didn't run the ball more often?

Dillon averaged 3.7 yards per carry with a long run of nine. While he wasn't a dud he wasn't a stud either.

Would love stats on Rodgers throwing 20+ yards on 3rd/4th and less than 2 and see what they are. Gotta think the last 3 years have not been good.

That would have to include the Packers at this point.

The Packers can't walk away from the contract they signed Rodgers to though.

Today surpassed 2019 San Fran as his worst elimination game because at least he played good in the 2nd half in 2019, even if people believe the game was out of hand already.

That's a huge overreaction to a terrible interception late in the game.

But everyone else isn’t being paid $50,000,000 guaranteed! When you are The Leader and highest paid player on any sports team?

In my opinion it's lame to argue that because Rodgers is the highest paid player on the team he should be able to overcome all other mistakes to carry the team to victory. That's not how any of this works.

This Offense scored +16 and gave up -6 on a Rodgers INT and a turnover on downs or a +10 net points at home. That’s pultry level and it’s been regular now for 4 years running. Enough already.

I'm not sure how an interception on a play for the team's own 33 yard line takes away six points of the offensive performance. In addition why on earth is Rodgers to be blamed for the turnover on downs on their own 31???

No Defense, not even SF49ers can overcome this Rodgers led Offense regularly.

Once again, there are other players to blame for the offense to have scored only 16 points as well.

 

[Team Ronny]

Dud: Lafleur!!! Where is this supposedly hard to defend offense? This offense has been anything but a juggernaut!!! He is a TERRIBLE coach when the stakes are high!! He can go bye bye too!! Hire a guy that has some chores and get these guys to play with fire!!

 

[Team Ronny]

Cahones^

 

[BrokenArrow]

Rodgers definitely didn't play a great game.

You're right. He played an absolutely pi$$ poor game.

 

[buckthorn]

I think the stud of the game was Detroit's much-maligned defense (followed by the Lions' coaching staff). They were flying all over the field, mostly stuffed our running game, constantly blew up plays in the backfield, and blanketed our receivers all game long. How many times did Rogers have no one open, no one to throw to? Tons of energy. Hutchinson is a true stud, and he had lots of help. Played as if they had something at stake -- unlike their opponents.

It was a team win for Detroit, and a team loss for the Packers.

 

[LambeauLombardi]

That's a huge overreaction to a terrible interception late in the game.

What playoff game/elimination game was worse than this one? 2014 Seattle he was dealing with a real good Legion of Boom defense to go along with cole rain and high winds, not to mention Russ was a lot worse than him that game as well until late in the 4th when it quit raining and Seattle was in full go for it mode. Not to mention he was hurt. He was also hurt in 2013 San Fran loss but he was on a much undermanned team IMO. Hard to be a 'huge overreaction' when the facts supports it.

 

[MadCat]

I think the stud of the game was Detroit's much-maligned defense (followed by the Lions' coaching staff). They were flying all over the field, mostly stuffed our running game, constantly blew up plays in the backfield, and blanketed our receivers all game long. How many times did Rogers have no one open, no one to throw to? Tons of energy. Hutchinson is a true stud, and he had lots of help. Played as if they had something at stake -- unlike their opponents.

It was a team win for Detroit, and a team loss for the Packers.

Once they were eliminated, Detroit had nothing to lose and could play as angry and fast and loose as they wanted. Personally, I am sick of the whole “nobody wants to come to Lambeau in January” BS. At this point, I would imagine teams are going to want to come to Lambeau for the big games. It just doesn’t provide the advantage the team keeps making the mistake of assuming it does.

 

[buckthorn]

What playoff game/elimination game was worse than this one? 2014 Seattle he was dealing with a real good Legion of Boom defense to go along with cole rain and high winds, not to mention Russ was a lot worse than him that game as well until late in the 4th when it quit raining and Seattle was in full go for it mode. Not to mention he was hurt. He was also hurt in 2013 San Fran loss but he was on a much undermanned team IMO. Hard to be a 'huge overreaction' when the facts supports it.

That loss to the Eli's 9–7 Giants in 2012 was worse. Packers were 15–1. This is a bad Packers team that probably had no business even being contention on the last day of the season.

 

[Mondio]

I would have rather won this game with no chance to make playoffs than lose the way we did. Any of the good stuff we started doing later in the season was gone. Back to the same old stuff. No pressure on the QB, but other than that the defense was respectable. Well minus Quay who better get his head right quick or we can just get him gone. No need for a guy that control his emotions in that situation. That was garbage.

the offense had no rhythm, no flow. We need to get our Oline fixed and fast. They were terrible and that was with keeping a 3rd tackle on the field for a lot of snaps too. What are we going to be like next year with Lewis is not here? I think he's been defying the odds for 2 years now, I can't see him back next year. Our oline needs to get right or whoever the QB is, is going to struggle.

Couldn't get the run game going, then did, then fumbled it away. Had some trouble extending drives, dropped balls and then Rodgers for some reason just can't see that Lions rookie. It's like he doesn't believe he can get there, though he's proven it more than a few times or he just doesn't see him. Rodgers isn't a slow learner so I'm wondering if he just blends in to the grass or something when he's back there because 2 of those throws were head scratchers to say the least.

I can't really see many studs in this game. Watson did well. Other than that? Lazard was himself. had some bigger catches but had that drop too. Good, but not a stud IMO.
pretty disappointing way to finish the season, doing the same **** that put us in this position in the first place.

 

[buckthorn]

Once they were eliminated, Detroit had nothing to lose and could play as angry and fast and loose as they wanted. Personally, I am sick of the whole “nobody wants to come to Lambeau in January” BS. At this point, I would imagine teams are going to want to come to Lambeau for the big games. It just doesn’t provide the advantage the team keeps making the mistake of assuming it does.

I might add that the Packers seem to think they're somehow invincible at home in the cold. They take the win for granted. And they play like it. I don't know why, given the history in the last 10–15 years.

 

[Magooch]

What playoff game/elimination game was worse than this one? 2014 Seattle he was dealing with a real good Legion of Boom defense to go along with cole rain and high winds, not to mention Russ was a lot worse than him that game as well until late in the 4th when it quit raining and Seattle was in full go for it mode. Not to mention he was hurt. He was also hurt in 2013 San Fran loss but he was on a much undermanned team IMO. Hard to be a 'huge overreaction' when the facts supports it.

That’s not what “facts” means.

 

[red4tribe]

Duds: the people on this forum who year after year after year say the Bucs and then the 9ers and then the Lions won’t show up because they can’t handle the cold.

I have a post in and old thread showing how the Packers actually have a worse record in cold weather at home than in warm. It’s an idea people just believe it and regurgitate without looking at the evidence.