Official Denver studs and duds

[Pugger]

Studs- The entire D

Duds- A Rods attitude towards the coach......

Huh?? Evidence please.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

As long as Kevin King can stay healthy, I'll keep him. The guy is still learning and is just going to get better IMO. I know I have been negative on him in the past, but that was 95% related to his inability to stay on the field and the other 5% was really not playing enough to fully access his strengths and weaknesses. So now that he is finally playing, I think the coaches will have more to work with and some of the things he isn't doing right, they will fix.

We all watch a lot of games, or at least most of us do, even some of the best shutdown CB's in the league get burned, miss a tackle, etc. Give King some time and keep your fingers crossed that he stays healthy, because we need him.

Josh Jackson would be my disappointment out of the DB at this point.

 

[PackinMSP]

King is "at worst" a solid CB3 in my opinion and right now he's playing "well enough" to stay as the CB2 behind Jaire. But you would really like for him to continue to improve and ascend.

I suppose you could say it's similar to MVS, who hasn't been incredibly consistent either.

I think we REALLY BADLY need a WR3. I'm okay with Davante and MVS but all the other WRs are not NFL caliber WRs and they will get shut down against good secondaries

 

[greengold]

King wasn't very good.

Oh, you & Sunshine have got to explain why! I’m dying to hear....

Who allowed more receptions in coverage today? Jaire or Kevin?

Seriously. I expect more from Packer fans. Just blanketly chastising him. Clearly. The guy gave up 2 receptions in the 1st half, 1 reception in the 2nd half.

 

[OldSchool101]

Studs: D + JK


Duds: Offensive frustration + Graham.



Every Win we get, buys us more time. Our biggest challenge is being patient while we make Offensive adjustments week to week.

 

[greengold]

Rewatched Kevin King defensive plays only and heres my notes:

King


1st play they ran away from him. 2nd he held edge for minimal gain. 3rd down at 10:56 q1 he’s all over his man helping to force Preston sack. Gary was in on that one too!


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7:48 2nd & 10 from their 23 on a hitch must be the bad play in front of Jaire & Amos. Sutton just turned him around.


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10:37 q2 gave up throw to Fant, well contested.




Run stop 1st & 10 1:49 q2

Phenomenal stop at 2 on 1st & goal 7:20 q3. Defended 3rd & 1 successfully in corner on line.


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2:53 in 3q, yes. Poor play stopping in coverage with what seemed like a handoff to Redmond. Definitely was some confusion.


How about 3rd & 5 at 14:12 q4 where he makes a tremendous stop in flat on pass to Linsley? Made it 4th & 3 on their own 33 forcing punt.


Within 8 minutes Crosby is putting us up 2 scores.


Gary’s sack at 2:59 was a coverage sack - clearly King shut down the WR deep that Flacco last checked to before Gary took him down.

 

[AmishMafia]

Studs
Preston Smith - great game! 3 sacks and one with a strip funble

Savage - nice hands on the int! Also had a great tackle stoning the RB

Z Smith - we are getting our moneys worth

Davante Adams - made plays with limited opportunities.

J Williams - some great runs

Duds
AR - some great throws but left a bunch on the table as well. On a day when you only take 1 hit, you should be able to co.plete more.

DL tackling - even clark missed a tackle.

 

[greengold]

Clearly there’s a Kevin King bias some of you Nancy’s might want to check. I mean, C’mon. I say this in a half friendly, and half pissed off tone.

We all know DBs have to have short memories. He had what looked like 2 blown assignments altogether. The Fant reception on him was remarkable. King’s coverage was as blanket as it gets.

King helped seal the win with his INT last week. He may indeed have had a big hand in sealing this win too. He also was great in run support. Again.

When are any of you going to start admitting your bias against him and stop this BS? I don’t care if you admit it, but knock it off. It is incorrect.

Jaire easily gave up more receptions, and you hear nothing.

 

[PackAttack12]

I think we REALLY BADLY need a WR3. I'm okay with Davante and MVS but all the other WRs are not NFL caliber WRs and they will get shut down against good secondaries

I’ve been saying for a while that what the Packers need is a #2. MVS/G-mo are good as the 3 and 4. We need someone better than those guys.

Not saying EQ would have been that guy, but his absence stings because I feel he would’ve played a pretty significant role.

 

[AmishMafia]

I’ve been saying for a while that what the Packers need is a #2. MVS/G-mo are good as the 3 and 4. We need someone better than those guys.

Not saying EQ would have been that guy, but his absence stings because I feel he would’ve played a pretty significant role.

Both MVS and GMo are currently better WRs than EQ.

Not sure how AR gets the ball to GMo and Kumerow throughout the preseason and appears to have good chemistry and as soon as the season starts, its a different story.

 

[greengold]

As to other fans assessment of King, well I don't think of him as a dud, just a 50/50 player.

For example, last week he gave up a bad play on that Diggs TD, but then redeemed himself with the INT. I'd keep him around as long as his good playa equal or slightly outweigh the bad.

No. That was Jaire who gave up the Diggs TD.

Am I making my point clear here? Anybody? Buehler? Buehler??? Anybody?

 

[greengold]

I really would like to see King snap out of it and just all of a sudden "get it" but I am afraid that he has that HaHa stank on him. Is there an exorcist in the house? Voodoo doctor? It's harder to get rid of than a cockroach. Go to the light #20!

Please explain the plays you are referring to?

I’m begging you.

EVERYBODY willing to just spout off with digs/cheap BS comments on King.

NO ONE willing to offer any substance.

Packers fans? We're better than that.

Kevin King’s blanket coverage on Sutton helped force the 1st AND last sacks of the game, by Preston, then Gary.

 

[GleefulGary]

Oh, you & Sunshine have got to explain why! I’m dying to hear....

Who allowed more receptions in coverage today? Jaire or Kevin?

Seriously. I expect more from Packer fans. Just blanketly chastising him. Clearly. The guy gave up 2 receptions in the 1st half, 1 reception in the 2nd half.

Sure!

He gets turned around easily. Quick break routes, double routes, he's not great with those. He's not bad, but he didn't have a very good game. Missed an open field tackle that led to a pretty decent gain, if I remember right.

I'm not sure how many catches he gave up, seemed like more than two, I know Sutton gets a TD on him with a decent throw. Maybe he didn't give up a lot of catches, but his guy was open more than enough to say he didn't cover as well as I'd like to see from him.

 

[LetzBreel]

Okay, I'll bite greengold. You are certainly entitled to your opinion of King. As I have said before, I hope I am wrong. Lord knows I have been wrong many times. It sounds like you pay much more attention to detail than I do but my problem with King is that he is so inconsistent. A DB must have a short memory. It just seems that when he makes a mistake, it is glaringly bad. All I ask of any of the defense is that there is an effort and that they make good sound tackles. There wasn't a lot of that today. Nitpicking? Probably but he isn't a rookie anymore.

 

[greengold]

Sure!

He gets turned around easily. Quick break routes, double routes, he's not great with those. He's not bad, but he didn't have a very good game. Missed an open field tackle that led to a pretty decent gain, if I remember right.

I'm not sure how many catches he gave up, seemed like more than two, I know Sutton gets a TD on him with a decent throw. Maybe he didn't give up a lot of catches, but his guy was open more than enough to say he didn't cover as well as I'd like to see from him.

I just reviewed all of them for you, Gary.

It is just complete BS. He got turned around once, got caught on a great double move once. That’s F’ing it. Period. The reception by Fant just could not have been defended better.

You watch them yourself. Find any other misses.

 

[greengold]

Okay, I'll bite greengold. You are certainly entitled to your opinion of King. As I have said before, I hope I am wrong. Lord knows I have been wrong many times. It sounds like you pay much more attention to detail than I do but my problem with King is that he is so inconsistent. A DB must have a short memory. It just seems that when he makes a mistake, it is glaringly bad. All I ask of any of the defense is that there is an effort and that they make good sound tackles. There wasn't a lot of that today. Nitpicking? Probably but he isn't a rookie anymore.

Trust me. I’m your Packer fan brother like all the rest here, and I’m telling you what he did in the game after reviewing twice.

I explained every play he was in on. There were no more, no less.

You guys need to check that S because you’re just plain wrong. He’s VERY sure. Majority of DEN’s running AND pass plays went away from Kevin King.

 

[LetzBreel]

Point taken. I commend you on your passion. I will watch more closely in the future. In the end, I really do want the kid to play well.

 

[greengold]

Point taken. I commend you on your passion. I will watch more closely in the future. In the end, I really do want the kid to play well.

It’s a sickness, Letz. Trust me, the kid is playing fantastic football for the Packers.

No joke on both sacks either, as Flacco checked deep to receiver King was covering before pulling it back and taking the sack, on both plays.

I invite anyone to corroborate with their own review. Wasn’t making my comments to be a ****. Just want my fellow fans to realize Kevin King is a really good player, and that there is a lot of misinfo/bias out there against him.

 

[RRyder]

No. That was Jaire who gave up the Diggs TD.

Am I making my point clear here? Anybody? Buehler? Buehler??? Anybody?

Honestly both King and Alexander got beat on that play..... It was a group effort

 

[greengold]

Honestly both King and Alexander got beat on that play..... It was a group effort

Jaire in coverage and it went right through Jaire’s hands. He said as much.

King had the original coverage. Whats he supposed to do when Jaire gets there 1st? Collide with Jaire? Run right through Jaire?

 

[Dantés]

No. That was Jaire who gave up the Diggs TD.

Am I making my point clear here? Anybody? Buehler? Buehler??? Anybody?

I only got to watch the last five minutes of this game live and am just now watching the game all the way through, so I am not weighing in on King's performance today.

However, you're mistaken about Diggs' TD.

King was not set at the snap and got beat by Diggs. Alexander's zone was on the other side of the field. He ranged over to bail King out, but it wasn't his coverage. That he even got in position was a pretty amazing feat of awareness and athleticism.

 

[Dantés]

Jaire in coverage and it went right through Jaire’s hands. He said as much.

King had the original coverage. Whats he supposed to do when Jaire gets there 1st? Collide with Jaire? Run right through Jaire?

King was not in position because he got beat, not because Alexander came across to help.

 

[RRyder]

Jaire in coverage and it went right through Jaire’s hands. He said as much.

King had the original coverage. Whats he supposed to do when Jaire gets there 1st? Collide with Jaire? Run right through Jaire?

Well he was about 5 yards behind both Diggs and Jaire at that point so no worry about a collision.

King got beat at the beginning and ended up trailing behind as Jaire wasnt able to get quite deep enough in time

They both got beat. It's ok. It happens

 

[bigbubbatd]

Huh?? Evidence please.

You are going to be waiting for a long time

 

[Dantés]

Here's a play with about 10:00 to go in Q3 where Sutton had King dead to rights for a TD but Flacco overthrew him. That won't show up in the box score.