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[gbgary]

that's 3 guys all making $10m+ so i'm guessing they're probably done now.

 

[Pugger]

The Packers are being the Packers. Guys have to genuinely want to come here on top of being overpaid. This is the most boring market to play in, in football soooo....it’d be different if they were winning SBs and not coming off back to back losing seasons.

Nonsense. A player will play anywhere if you pay him enough. Some of the contracts teams are throwing at these FAs in insane.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

that's 3 guys all making $10m+ so i'm guessing they're probably done now.

The Packers will most likely structure the contract in a way that the cap hit will be lower early but I don't expect the team to add another high priced free agent.

 

[Wildcatk23]

Do you realize that there's a new front office in place since last season??? Moving forward it might be smart not to panic if the Packers end up not overpaying for veterans within the first few hours of free agency.

Bro they just did it because they got on here and read my thread .

I won’t take all the credit .

 

[Mondio]

Bro they just did it because they got on here and read my thread .

I won’t take all the credit .

Then where the **** have you been all this time?

 

[Wildcatk23]

Then where the **** have you been all this time?

Just waiting for MM firing lol.

 

[gbgary]

signing some OL depth too.

 

[tynimiller]

Billy Turner OL is to sign

 

[gbgary]

so far it's $45m+ between the 4 guys they're signing. somethings got to give. a surprise cut perhaps.

 

[tynimiller]

so far it's $45m between the 4 guys they're signing. somethings got to give. a surprise cut perhaps.

One huge surprise cut that could save A TON is cutting Daniels if they dont plan on resigning him this next year....cut him and try signing a vet for cheaper and hope Kenny and Lancaster's promising year is a sign of ready for bigger role.

 

[HardRightEdge]

so far it's $45m between the 4 guys they're signing. somethings got to give. a surprise cut perhaps.

That's probably right, though there are candidates beyond Perry that might not be much of a shock. The cap hit can be deferred with signing bonuses but there's a limit. By the time you get to opening day, having signed the draft class, filling out the 53 man roster and practice squad and somethin' somethin' for PUP and IR replacements, the current cap space is not the practical cap space.

 

[HardRightEdge]

One huge surprise cut that could save A TON is cutting Daniels if they dont plan on resigning him this next year....cut him and try signing a vet for cheaper and hope Kenny and Lancaster's promising year is a sign of ready for bigger role.

I had Daniels at the very bottom of my list. I only suggested it because his performance has fallen off the last 1.5 seasons. It would be surprising, though, given the other cut candidates. Now that edge and safety signings have been made, the O-line / D-line rise in draft priority, so the scant chance is now less scant.

 

[sschind]

I woke up to find out we STILL haven't signed anybody? Is it too soon to clean house, we're doomed, doomed I tell you

That's why I sleep in. Its always happy news when you wake up at noon.
Plus the hangover is usually gone.

Do you realize that there's a new front office in place since last season??? Moving forward it might be smart not to panic if the Packers end up not overpaying for veterans within the first few hours of free agency.

They waited for the second few hours to overpay for veterans.

Just kidding...sort of. I said before that fans have a tendency to undervalue players and when guys fail after signing big contracts it just makes us all the more sure we are right. Occasionally we read about a guy signing for X amount and say "gee, I thought he would get more than that" but far more common is the "no way he is worth that' reaction. I've also said that if you want to build your team only with guys who are worth what you are willing to pay them it isn't going to be a very good team. Sometimes you need to sweeten the pot to get the better players. That doesn't mean go crazy and dish out the money with a shovel but you can't expect good results when you are handing it out with a tweezers either.

So far I'm happy with the guys the Packers have gotten and as long as they can fit them under the cap that is really all that counts.

I had Daniels at the very bottom of my list. I only suggested it because his performance has fallen off the last 1.5 seasons. It would be surprising, though, given the other cut candidates. Now that edge and safety signings have been made, the O-line / D-line rise in draft priority, so the scant chance is now less scant.

Oh how the might have fallen. I remember way back when Mike Daniels was the up and coming star of the show and he was going to light a fire under everyone's *** and lead our defense into the stratosphere. Looks like he fell a we bit short. Of course he can't take the whole blame he did have some help from above.

 

[Do7]

The two are not mutually exclusive. As for the rest ... let’s just say I have not personally felt that your reasons outweigh the risk ... hence the “shot” as you call it.

I mean a "I respectfully disagree" would've sufficed here as well wouldn't it in regards to who I feel we should target wouldn't it? I understand if you felt differently about it, and I respect that. I just think Mack could've been what we build the defense around, same with Miller to a lesser extent. Both would be great additions imo for their effort on the field as well as their leadership, and as a result I saw the defense playing better as a whole.

Again apologies for any hostility on my part, I think we've found mutual ground where we better understand one another.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Oh how the might have fallen. I remember way back when Mike Daniels was the up and coming star of the show and he was going to light a fire under everyone's *** and lead our defense into the stratosphere. Looks like he fell a we bit short. Of course he can't take the whole blame he did have some help from above.

I never much cared for Daniels style of leadership but that's more a matter of whether it works or not with the players around him and I'm not in the room.

What bothers me most is pontifications about the defense coming out of the defensive line. How can those guys know what's going on behind them? Do you think Daniels is reviewing tape every week and telling LBs and DBs where they are going astray? When it comes to DL, I believe it is best to talk softly and carry a big stick by example. See Kenny Clark.

Still, seeing Daniels cut is a long shot and nothing more than that.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I just think Mack could've been what we build the defense around

You still don't see it? Had we traded for Mack, we wouldn't have had most of this money to be spending to do what you are saying "build the defense around him". Nor the draft picks.

Mack is a great player, no doubt, but very hard to justify what it would have taken to trade for him and pay him and in the same year, "build around him".

 

[tynimiller]

You still don't see it? Had we traded for Mack, we wouldn't have had most of this money to be spending to do what you are saying "build the defense around him". Nor the draft picks.

Mack is a great player, no doubt, but very hard to justify what it would have taken to trade for him and pay him and in the same year, "build around him".

100%. I mean let's call it like it is Mack on a scale of 1-10 is arguably an 11. But we literally just signed two 7-8s...

 

[Do7]

You still don't see it? Had we traded for Mack, we wouldn't have had most of this money to be spending to do what you are saying "build the defense around him". Nor the draft picks.

Mack is a great player, no doubt, but very hard to justify what it would have taken to trade for him and pay him and in the same year, "build around him".

I know what I said. Hence why I said, from that point going forward we'd build through the draft and rent temporary FAs on the cheap.

 

[swhitset]

100%. I mean let's call it like it is Mack on a scale of 1-10 is arguably an 11. But we literally just signed two 7-8s...

Agreed... and something people don’t seem to think about when they salivate over a particular player... injuries. If you have that “11” ranked player and he gets hurt... you have a zero. If you have two “8s” and one gets hurt... you still have an 8.

 

[sschind]

You still don't see it? Had we traded for Mack, we wouldn't have had most of this money to be spending to do what you are saying "build the defense around him". Nor the draft picks.

Mack is a great player, no doubt, but very hard to justify what it would have taken to trade for him and pay him and in the same year, "build around him".

Do you get the feeling that some people are thinking "Just think how great our defense could be with Mack, Amos, Smith and Smith and another stud LB at 12 and another stud DL at 30

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I know what I said. Hence why I said, from that point going forward we'd build through the draft and rent temporary FAs on the cheap.

So return to the TT way of building a team, without the high draft picks?

 

[swhitset]

I know what I said. Hence why I said, from that point going forward we'd build through the draft and rent temporary FAs on the cheap.

And this is why I asked you the question about the lottery. Personally... I am not a gambler... It appears that you are.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

And this is why I asked you the question about the lottery. Personally... I am not a gambler... It appears that you are.

Let's not taint all of us Poker Players with those who play the Lottery! After all, the Lottery is just a tax on people with insufficient math skills.

 

[Do7]

And this is why I asked you the question about the lottery. Personally... I am not a gambler... It appears that you are.

You make it sound as if that's a bad thing. I know you didn't say that exactly. I'm guessing you like prefer to play it safe, by not playing at all? What if you win?

So return to the TT way of building a team, without the high draft picks?

I mean who in the 1st round do you see us picking up that's going to be a better player than Mack? And typically we don't really do that well in the first place.

 

[Do7]

Let's not taint all of us Poker Players with those who play the Lottery! After all, the Lottery is just a tax on people with insufficient math skills.

I play poker as well, just for fun not for money. I play the lottery on occasions for personal reasons, but for fun mostly.