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[sjb12681]

Teams are like a steak. It either is good or bad to begin with, or just so-so.

Free agency is seasoning, like salt and butter.

A good steak can become great with a little seasoning. A so-so steak can maybe become one of the best you've ever cooked, if seasoned properly.

A bad steak will still be a bad steak, no matter how much butter and salt you throw on to it.

I think we are a "so-so" steak right now. We need a perfect blend to get it to great. Spending a ton on salt and butter to buy the best/most won't create the perfect blend needed here. It needs to be the right blend.

 

[Mondio]

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[Dantés]

You know I've favored Amos in this horse race but I loathe to think what his numbers will look like now.

I could see the argument for Collins given his versatility in what was a dime heavy Pettine defense when he had all hands on deck early last season. But this contract is nuts.

The other safety deals haven't been crazy so hopefully Collins' will prove to be an outlier.

 

[sjb12681]

Too many safeties this year to overpay. I like Amos, but not enough to go over whatever budget we already had prior to today.

 

[HardRightEdge]

The other safety deals haven't been crazy so hopefully Collins' will prove to be an outlier.

I think Mathieu at 3 years / $42 mil is more than a little crazy.

 

[Dantés]

I think Mathieu at 3 years / $42 mil is more than a little crazy.

I thought he was getting 9.5 from Houston. I guess I missed KC.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I thought he was getting 9.5 from Houston. I guess I missed KC.

It occurs to me that the next time the echo chamber tells us there is a buyers market for established vets at a particular position we might want to consider the fact that in a closed system it mean there are a lot of teams that suddenly don't have one and now need one.

 

[OldSchool101]

Listen. I see us in 3 year rebuild but in year 2. We need to be smart and not get impatient. We have plenty of cap to sign either 2 elite players or 1 elite player and fill 2-3 holes with solid, above average talent. If we do either of those scenarios and then work this draft wisely we”ll have combined FA and draft upgrades at at least 4-5 positions minimum. Even with last years hobbled QB that would’ve easily been enough to make the playoffs. We stood toe to toe against both Super Bowl teams at their residence and we were 1/4 crippled.

We’re not nearly in as bad a position as so many in here claim. Relax, have some confidence and let our new GM do his thing. Fanship means supporting your team through the tough times as well as the good times. Lets not be so overly critical so early into a process, we’re starting to sound like Bears’ fans in here.

 

[AKCheese]

I don’t see anyone on defense signed we should have jumped at.

This team is where it is because of 4 horrendous drafts by Ted Thompson, but “we” fell in love with him (and McCarthy) after we caught lightning in a bottle and won a Super Bowl. I said at the time we better enjoy it because it was going to cost us hanging into a crappy GM and mediocre HC for waaaayyyyy too long. Just as UNDER achieving in drafting and coaching got us into this mess.... it’s going to take OVER achieving in both to get us out. Free agency can help .... but drafting and coaching are like blocking and tackling.... basics... I hope we fill a few holes in Free Agency but I hope MORE that we have a very good draft. All that said if the O/U on GB is 8.5 when I go to Vegas I’ll put a hondo on the OVER pronto.... 9.5 I may keep my money in my pocket but if I put it down I think I’d still go with the over. McCarthy was holding this team back, we have tools at our disposal (cap space and draft picks).... getting back to the playoffs is a very low bar and one we SHOULD achieve in the NFC North ....

 

[Do7]

Listen. I see us in 3 year rebuild but in year 2. We need to be smart and not get impatient. We have plenty of cap to sign either 2 elite players or 1 elite player and fill 2-3 holes with solid, above average talent. If we do either of those scenarios and then work this draft wisely we”ll have combined FA and draft upgrades at at least 4-5 positions minimum. Even with last years hobbled QB that would’ve easily been enough to make the playoffs. We stood toe to toe against both Super Bowl teams at their residence and we were 1/4 crippled.

We’re not nearly in as bad a position as so many in here claim. Relax, have some confidence and let our new GM do his thing.

If we're in a 3 year rebuilding stage then by the time we're somewhat out of the rebuilding stage, Rodgers is going to be heading towards 37, and at that point I can already hear people discussing if we should move on from him or not. Thus wasting his years because the front office was so inept that it wasted his career. I agree we have enough cap to sign elite players, which again I wish we went after Mack, and suggest we go after Von Miller, or an elite pass rusher. The rest we could fill up holes through the draft and cheap contracts in FA.

Only problem is I don't see us grabbing an elite player, that'll really turn this ship around.

 

[OldSchool101]

If we're in a 3 year rebuilding stage then by the time we're somewhat out of the rebuilding stage, Rodgers is going to be heading towards 37, and at that point I can already hear people discussing if we should move on from him or not. Thus wasting his years because the front office was so inept that it wasted his career. I agree we have enough cap to sign elite players, which again I wish we went after Mack, and suggest we go after Von Miller, or an elite pass rusher. The rest we could fill up holes through the draft and cheap contracts in FA.

Only problem is I don't see us grabbing an elite player, that'll really turn this ship around.

Nobody will be discussing nothing once were back on top.
Our real problem isn’t winning. Our real problem is whining. The GBP could win a SB tomorrow and I swear there’s gonna inevitably be those who say some derogatory remarks. I can already hear it “we should’ve had more” “it should’ve been quicker” “Patriots are still better” or whatever they can surmise to perpetuate themselves as fan victims. Winning is great, but to me it’s how you win that matters. I don’t want to win with guys like AB. I want to watch guys who look up to one another and play for each other and bring out the best in one another and then win.
I’m 100% positively convinced we don’t need ONE $25M dollar man to do that. Give me the addition of FIVE $5M guys in FA (Mo and Breeland types) who each want the chance to prove themselves and I’ll sign the petition. Then I’d replicate it all over again in the draft.

 

[sschind]

So far, there has not been a single FA signing that I would have wanted for the Packers.

They only one I would have liked was Humphries. I think he is worth the 9 million a year and maybe the bit more it would have taken to get him. Part of that is because I really don't think there is another WR out there comparable for what we need. Sure we may get someone cheaper but I don't think they will really fit the role we need or will be as good.

Other than that I agree I'm not going to lose any sleep over not getting any of the guys who agreed to deals today.

 

[sschind]

If we're in a 3 year rebuilding stage then by the time we're somewhat out of the rebuilding stage, Rodgers is going to be heading towards 37, and at that point I can already hear people discussing if we should move on from him or not. Thus wasting his years because the front office was so inept that it wasted his career. I agree we have enough cap to sign elite players, which again I wish we went after Mack, and suggest we go after Von Miller, or an elite pass rusher. The rest we could fill up holes through the draft and cheap contracts in FA.

Only problem is I don't see us grabbing an elite player, that'll really turn this ship around.

I don't really see that player as being available unless you want to give up a bunch of draft picks to get him(which you are obviously willing to do) We aren't going to get him through FA because he isn't out there.

I think we should see what the Rams want for Aaron Donald. I'd trade the #12 pick for him wouldn't you?

 

[RRyder]

Day one of Free Agency is almost always fools gold for a very simple, yet seemingling hard for some people, reason.

In the NFL, with a 53 man roster, its vital for the guys under contract to either perform up to the level of the contract or out perform it and with the salaries that get handed out on day one BOTH of those things are damn near impossible so now even in what some would consider a "win" scenario for a 1st day signing you're stuck with a good player that isn't living up to his contract and takes cap space away from other positions

But hey at least people would be happy for a few months because the Packers got one of the shiny new toys

 

[OldSchool101]

They only one I would have liked was Humphries. I think he is worth the 9 million a year and maybe the bit more it would have taken to get him. Part of that is because I really don't think there is another WR out there comparable for what we need. Sure we may get someone cheaper but I don't think they will really fit the role we need or will be as good

I agree I liked Humphries also. One thing we have going for us in 2019 is that the WR class is strong as day, particularly in that 3-5 round range. Terry McLaurin is just one example of 4-5 very talented Slot receivers who are off the radar but easily would be a mid day 2 pick in most drafts, yet he barely ranks in the top 20 WRs this draft.

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As much as I’d like to have a veteran, we will likely have a shot at several talented slot receivers starting at pick #44 and going through pick #140 and many of which are talented enough to start game 1. The more I look into slot options in the draft the less concerned we need to overpay a veteran. Terry is being compared to the style of Pierre Garçon but he’s a turbo version of him IMO.

 

[swhitset]

Oh you won't get any arguments from me in that regard, which is why I find it hilarious people are so appalled at the idea of signing a big FA like Brown, or Mack. The way it sounds in regards to how safe people are going about it makes me believe we should've kept Thompson. Our Superbowl Window is closing and getting smaller and smaller. The time for playing it safe is about over. Time to take some chances.

honest question... what percentage of your income do you spend on lottery tickets?

 

[Do7]

honest question... what percentage of your income do you spend on lottery tickets?

About the same amount as your attempts at self deprecating humor. I figured you weren't being genuine when you said "honest question"

But in the event you weren't trying to take a shot at me, I did spend 10 dollars worth on the powerball.

If you weren't being trying to take a shot at me, then I apologize for making the wrong assumption. When it came to that question, I wasn't sure how to answer that, considering how one day you can decide to engage with me in debate, other times you decide to put me on ignore, and on occasions we'll see each other eye to eye. I have a good idea where I stand with most of the people here for the most part. You on the other hand I'm not so sure.

 

[swhitset]

Nothing self deprecating about it ... it was an honest question... I was genuinely curious... and you could also consider it” a shot at you”. Frankly I have had trouble taking you seriously. Every one of your posts seems to be “ I want that player because he’s awesome” consequences be damned.

 

[Do7]

Nothing self deprecating about it ... it was an honest question... I was genuinely curious... and you could also consider it” a shot at you”. Frankly I have had trouble taking you seriously. Every one of your posts seems to be “ I want that player because he’s awesome” consequences be damned.

Wait...I'm confused. So were you taking a shot at me or no? You said you were honestly curious but then at the same time you said I can consider it a shot. So which one is it?

And I have trouble taking you seriously because I explain my reasons as to how I think said player could be an asset to the team. I played devil's advocate in regards to Antonio Brown, and I literally just explained again to @LambeauLombardi my thoughts on how Mack would've been a huge asset to the team, to and lesser extent Von Miller. Would it be a gamble, of course but at the same time I feel we could afford to take that risk. How you've gotten to this conclusion confirms my suspicion that you selectively take what I say and draw your own conclusion, even though I state my reasons perfectly clear.

And newsflash there are going to be consequences regardless of whoever we sign. That's what free agency is. It's a risk. I didn't say we should throw our money left and right for every player out on the market. (Again I even stated that earlier)

There have been only 2 players I had spoken about wanting us to get, one of which was Mack, and the other is Von Miller, in which I explained how they could be assets. Everyone else I've been indifferent about. Antonio Brown I played devil's advocate and spoke in regards to how he could be an asset and even then I said if I had to choose I'd prefer ODB over him if we were to go after someone. And Oakland managed to get a steal for him btw.

 

[RepStar15]

Every player that was signed yesterday was grossly overpaid. I am happy we didn’t spend 88 million dollars on a guy I really wanted. My value of Landon Collins was 4 year 36 million. The deal of the day was Kumerow

 

[Curly Calhoun]

We SUCK lol 6-10 next year if I was Rodgers I would wanna leave

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[Curly Calhoun]

I personally did not expect the Packers to be active on the first day of free agency (or, 'legal tampering', as it is now known), that's usually when the stupid money is spent. Teams like the Raiders and the Lions jumped in and shot their *** early, so they'll be crowned the big winners in free agency......Teams like the Patriots will not be.

I'd rather Green Bay be in the company of the latter rather than the former....

Now, on to day two.

 

[elcid]

If we can resign Breeland and lock up Amos and one of the Smiths with our cap space, I'd be over the moon.

Dream scenario:
Breeland
Amos
Preston Smith

More realistic yet still great scenario:
Breeland
Amos
Barrett
Ingram

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I was waiting for this thread.

I'm surprised it took six hours after the legal tampering period was opened.

This may be my favorite signing so far:

Former Tampa Bay Buccaneers linebacker Kwon Alexander plans to sign a four-year, $54 million deal that includes $27 million guaranteed with the San Francisco 49ers. That's for a guy coming off an ACL.

The Niners signing Alexander to a deal like that is absolutely insane. That guy is one of the league leaders in missed tackles over the past few years.

 

[Mondio]

I woke up to find out we STILL haven't signed anybody? Is it too soon to clean house, we're doomed, doomed I tell you