Who should be the New DC?

[Favre>Rodgers259]

Anyone have an opinion on Mike Vrabel? Pats D seems to always find ways to get the job done and wouldn't mind seeing a branch of that in Green Bay.

Mike Vrabel will be a HC in 5 years or less. He's too hot to handle. If we hire Mike Vrabel, it's because we're replacing Mike McCarthy. Which actually isn't such a bad idea....

 

[BrokenArrow]

It didn't help that the after winning the Super Bowl, deconstruction of the defense took place. The Giants went from a defense minded team to put everything on Eli Manning's team. Can't make good food without the proper ingredients and management didn't do Fewell any favors with the roster. Furthermore (yes...I used this word), with Tom Coughlin as a mentor, it isn't out of the question that Fewell would bring discipline, toughness, and intensity to the weak link of GB. Over the past few seasons, I would imagine offenses across the league were salivating over destroying the GB defense. If the GB defense can bring back a certain nastiness to their identity, maybe GB will give teams pause when they come into Lambeau Field.

Nastiness doesn't make a good defense. Discipline and execution does. Put the 11 nastiest guys in the NFL on your team and you're going to have a poor defense due to out-of-control penalties. Why so eager to excuse a poor DC for another team but not Capers? There are so many better candidates than him at this point.

 

[McKnowledge]

Why so eager to excuse a poor DC for another team but not Capers? There are so many better candidates than him at this point.

Because of his experience with the secondary. His head coaching experience. He's been a choice of Tom Coughlin's staff for three different teams. Coughlin is well respected in the league. He's won a Super Bowl as a coach. Might have won a Super Bowl as a player (not sure). Could work with MM, but still brings a fresh set of eyes. He comes from a winning team this season. Coached one of the best defensive units on the best defensive team this season. A unit that is the very weakness of the GB Packers........I guess I do seem eager.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Because of his experience with the secondary. His head coaching experience. He's been a choice of Tom Coughlin's staff for three different teams. Coughlin is well respected in the league.

And Coughlin fired him. After that nobody wanted him as a DC and he was demoted to secondary coach. Even if he was worthy of consideration, he'd be WAY down the list.

 

[GleefulGary]

McCarthy has waited too long to get rid of Capers. We're now in desperate need of a new DC with a limited number of candidates. Plus McCarthy is in the last year of his contract, and will a DC want to risk getting fired a year from now if McCarthy is let go? Ted should extend McCarthy immediately, on the condition that he get rid of Capers.

All told, we could do worse than Fangio.

Limited?

Vance Joseph, Teryl Austin, Vic Fangio.

There are good options out there. I'm not too worried.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

I think the common issue is that there's nobody who just "makes sense" right now. It's just a group of good guys who could all pan out.

Fangio has been linked to the Packers if he and Fox get dismissed in Chicago. The only thing that gives me pause is that he comes from Capers' tree. Hopefully that doesn't mean more of the same.

I think Austin can use our personnel better. He runs a 3-4 with a lot of over and under looks tailored to the roster. However, I think Austin is more in line for a HC position. I could see him being a "Rooney Rule" guy who "accidentally" finds a new job this off-season.

 

[red4tribe]

Del Rio has been fired by Oakland. I think he should be a top candidate, if he doesn’t get head coaching position somewhere else.

 

[PackAttack12]

Del Rio has been fired by Oakland. I think he should be a top candidate, if he doesn’t get head coaching position somewhere else.

Someone needs to be on the phone with him tonight.

 

[pfcmsh]

The more I think about it, the more I want Fangio....attacking 3-4 style would fit perfectly. Black Monday I would send Capers out to pasture and the moment that whole Chicago staff is let go, I'd name Fangio new DC.

Agree 100%. Fangio has crafted a really good defense with little talent and many starters lost for the season.

 

[AmishMafia]

Agree 100%. Fangio has crafted a really good defense with little talent and many starters lost for the season.

I am thinking Fangio would be a great hire.

Here are the Bears starting defense:

DE Akiem Hicks, Jonathan Bullard
DT Eddie Goldman
OLBs Sam Acho, Howard Jones
ILBs Nick Kwiatkoski, Danny Trevathan
DBs Prince Amukamara/Adrian Amos/Eddie Jackson/Marcus Cooper

There are some decent players here, but if you combined the Packer roster with these guys, mostly Packers will be starting.

The difference? The Bears cracked the top 10 and the Packers are #22. Fangio should be able to do even better with the talent we have.

 

[GleefulGary]

Hire Fangio and bring Kyle Fuller with him.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

The Lions just submitted requests for Mike Vrabel and Matt Patricia. Not sure why those two disagreed with my post but looks like he'll be a HC in a lot less than 5 years....

Bears are also considering promoting Fangio to HC as well.

TT is probably going to wait for the domino effect to save money I'm assuming.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

I am thinking Fangio would be a great hire.

Here are the Bears starting defense:

DE Akiem Hicks, Jonathan Bullard
DT Eddie Goldman
OLBs Sam Acho, Howard Jones
ILBs Nick Kwiatkoski, Danny Trevathan
DBs Prince Amukamara/Adrian Amos/Eddie Jackson/Marcus Cooper

There are some decent players here, but if you combined the Packer roster with these guys, mostly Packers will be starting.

The difference? The Bears cracked the top 10 and the Packers are #22. Fangio should be able to do even better with the talent we have.

The Bears and Packers also finished with practically identical time of possession (9 second difference overall throughout season), so it's not like the Bears' top-10 defense was skewed by rarely being on the field.

 

[GleefulGary]

Please let it be Fangio. He's a fantastic DC.

 

[Poppa San]

Bears are also considering promoting Fangio to HC as well.

Dagnabbit. Dump Dom already so he can get in the HC interview line too.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

Dagnabbit. Dump Dom already so he can get in the HC interview line too.

Capers to the Bears as HC, Fangio to the Packers as DC. I could honestly see this happen and it would be hilarious.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

God Save Chicago and any other team that hires Capers as HC

 

[PackFan2]

I'd love Fangio as Defensive Coordinator but I have a feeling he might not want to join any NFC north teams. Putting myself in his shoes, I wouldnt. Would be like back stabbing, but who knows. Idk if other coaches would join a team from rival division, or have done that in the past.

 

[PackFan2]

Bears are also considering promoting Fangio to HC as well.

I highly doubt they promote Fangio to HC, they'd want an offensive minded HC for Trubisky.
Could promote Fangio to HC and have someone for QB coach but... Eh. Rather an offensive minded HC with QB schooling background,.

 

[AmishMafia]

I'd love Fangio as Defensive Coordinator but I have a feeling he might not want to join any NFC north teams. Putting myself in his shoes, I wouldnt. Would be like back stabbing, but who knows. Idk if other coaches would join a team from rival division, or have done that in the past.

I think it would be a very attractive job. This is a much better situation than normal. You are working with a lot of talent. Of course you could look at it the other way. Usually you are taking over a bottom feeder with high draft picks from prdvious years and another high pick coming.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Fangio sure doesn't seem to stick around an organization very long, but in his defense, he seems to become a casualty of a HC that gets canned. I'm not saying that at the age of 59 he is too "old" to coach, but a part of me wanted to see a young up and comer with a lot of enthusiasm come in. A guy that has really fresh ideas and can relate to the current genre of players a bit better than what it sounds like Capers was able to do. Fangio may end up being like Capers, a guy in the home stretch of his career and not bring that hunger, desire and enthusiasm a younger guy might bring.

Whoever the Packers decide on, I will just be happy with a change, knowing that it can't get much worse on defense.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If I am a potential candidate for the Packers DC job, I would be a bit nervous to take the job for a few reasons. One, Mike McCarthy. His contract is up next year and if he isn't resigned, it might be a one and done year for a DC. Two, Ted Thompson. Same lame duck status as well as a guy who seems to have a penchant to draft with an eye on potential and not necessarily for what a DC or OC might be clamouring for. That last part is strictly a guess on my part, maybe TT consults fully with his coaches on their needs, but it seems like some of the guys he has drafted in the past, don't fit into what Capers is doing.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

Fangio sure doesn't seem to stick around an organization very long, but in his defense, he seems to become a casualty of a HC that gets canned.

Whoever the Packers decide on, I will just be happy with a change, knowing that it can't get much worse on defense.

For that very reason, Fangio may push to get a HC gig. If his success with the defense still translates regardless of him no longer being just the DC, he can find someone to tutor Trubisky. If McAdoo got fired, he could most definitely fill the part. Or....not sure if they have a connection but our own Alex Van Pelt could be looking to move to OC. And Scott Linehan is also on the rocks in Dallas.

Vance Joseph is being retained by the Broncos, so scratch one off the list.

I expect one or more of Vrabel/Patricia/Fangio to be signed no later than Wednesday by a team. Teams will want to give them as much time to prepare for the Draft as humanly possible. Austin will probably do a lot of traveling as a Rooney Rule Candidate.

Another situation to watch: with Arians retiring, I'm expecting Todd Bowles to be in the mix for the HC job in Arizona. Who knows what unintended ripples are caused from that.

 

[rmontro]

If I am a potential candidate for the Packers DC job, I would be a bit nervous to take the job for a few reasons. One, Mike McCarthy. His contract is up next year and if he isn't resigned, it might be a one and done year for a DC. Two, Ted Thompson. Same lame duck status as well

I'm concerned about this too. I feel like they may have waited too long to move on from Capers, and are now trying to hire in what could be a rocky situation. One of the attractive things about Green Bay is that they're not very trigger happy when it comes to firing coaches. It's a fairly stable environment, but that advantage seems to be nullified right now.

Word is Fangio would like to be a head coach. When he was asked about a head coaching job, he made some sort of bitter comment about how offensive minded coaches usually get those jobs.

I hope they don't handle this like Ted does free agents: Wait until everybody has been hired, then go sniffing for bargains.

 

[swhitset]

No, but only because I love what he is doing with the Badgers. Otherwise I would be fine. Just don't want to lose him yet.

I disagreed, not because I think it is not a good choice, but for my love of the Badgers.

Glad you clarified that.