The Jordan Love Era Begins

[Krabs]

Rb I agree now they are better.. But I was focused on OL, wr and te.

For me overall 92 as a whole unit was better

I just can't get on board with that. They had one good WR in Sharpe. The others were not good. Brooks somewhat got it figured out later, but then got injured and disappeared. Jackie Harris was a solid TE, but still only had 55 catches for 595 yards. Nothing special at all. I wouldn't give up Musgrave for Harris. I don't know the offensive line well enough in 1992 to do a proper comparison. It was probably better than what Love has. They could use an upgrade there in the next offseason. I've said this in the past. Watson, Doubs, Reed, Wicks, and Musgrave are better skill position players than that 92 team. I'd argue that the defenses are pretty similar as well. Interesting looking back at that team. Now, the 1994 Packers were a very well rounded team and the start of something special. Those mid to late 90's teams were awesome.

 

[Half Empty]

No JAGs on the '92 OLine

Ruettgers Winters/Moran Campen Hallstrom Robbins

 

[milani]

Exactly. I'd take Sharpe, Harris and the OL from that offense. May be recency bias but '23 Love is better than '92 Favre though Favre was more fun to watch.

Holmgren knew he had to rein in Favre immensely. Lot of his throws the first season were screens and swings and tosses to the TE.

 

[Schultz]

You got me thinking. Because comparisons across decades do matter and are harder to evaluate so on that you are correct.
But luckily it’s not impossible either. Accounting for 17 games first here. Here’s a better sample size:

I took 5 seasons “high pass yardage”

1990-1994 = 4492 average leader

2018-2023 = 5001 average leader

It’s exactly 90% (89.834%)

So yes it’s not a direct comparison. However 10% is not that drastic like the Auto market. We’re talking 5X

1990 F150 MSRP $10K-$13K

2023 MSRP Currently $45K-70
Using an auto comparison is severely inflated example that might unintentionally delude some people. 10% does not = 500%

So in fact, Love throwing ~4190 yards would = Brett across 13 starts. Love is currently pacing 3,928 yards. I’ve accounted for PER GAME here. My analysis shows if Love brings his game up even a smidge? He’s going to shut a lot of people up.

On a related note (not directed at you) I’ve already noticed some crickets in the Media this morning. The same ones pounding on Love are realizing that God is very capable, much more so than our mans minuscule thinking brains

Thanks for the leg work. I just can't confidently use just stats for these types of comparisons as the rules have changed in order to make the game more exciting and offense friendly IMO.

 

[longtimefan]

You got me thinking. Because comparisons across decades do matter and are harder to evaluate so on that you are correct.
But luckily it’s not impossible either. Accounting for 17 games first here. Here’s a better sample size:

I took 5 seasons “high pass yardage”

1990-1994 = 4492 average leader

2018-2023 = 5001 average leader

It’s exactly 90% (89.834%)

So yes it’s not a direct comparison. However 10% is not that drastic like the Auto market. We’re talking 5X

1990 F150 MSRP $10K-$13K

2023 MSRP Currently $45K-70
Using an auto comparison is severely inflated example that might unintentionally delude some people. 10% does not = 500%

So in fact, Love throwing ~4190 yards would = Brett across 13 starts. Love is currently pacing 3,928 yards. I’ve accounted for PER GAME here. My analysis shows if Love brings his game up even a smidge? He’s going to shut a lot of people up.

On a related note (not directed at you) I’ve already noticed some crickets in the Media this morning. The same ones pounding on Love are realizing that God is very capable, much more so than our mans minuscule thinking brains

Ty

 

[tynimiller]

If you'd have told me Love would be arguably worthy of having his stats up there vs two of the QB favorites in the league to play in their conference championships I'd be shocked:

Year	GS	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	1D	Succ%	Y/G
2023	10	224	327	68.5	2497	15	9	111	45.5	249.7
2023	10	203	340	59.7	2331	16	10	114	42.8	233.1
2023	10	246	361	68.1	2743	16	8	134	52.4	274.3

 

[longtimefan]

If you'd have told me Love would be arguably worthy of having his stats up there vs two of the QB favorites in the league to play in their conference championships I'd be shocked:

Year	GS	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	1D	Succ%	Y/G
2023	10	224	327	68.5	2497	15	9	111	45.5	249.7
2023	10	203	340	59.7	2331	16	10	114	42.8	233.1
2023	10	246	361	68.1	2743	16	8	134	52.4	274.3

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[longtimefan]

Doubs' touchdown was Love's third go-ahead, fourth-quarter touchdown of the season -- the most by a Packers quarterback since Rodgers in 2012. They just hadn't won each time he did it.

 

[longtimefan]

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I've recently mentioned Hurts prev seasons compared to Loves

But this is really an eye opener. I haven't seen Hurts play to much this year, wonder how his interceptions happened.

 

[tynimiller]

Doubs' touchdown was Love's third go-ahead, fourth-quarter touchdown of the season -- the most by a Packers quarterback since Rodgers in 2012. They just hadn't won each time he did it.

He’s a bum, stop stating good things about him.

 

[longtimefan]

He’s a bum, stop stating good things about him.

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[tynimiller]

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LIES! Next thing you’ll tell me he is the QB of one of the best second half teams in the league….STOP!

 

[Schultz]

Doubs' touchdown was Love's third go-ahead, fourth-quarter touchdown of the season -- the most by a Packers quarterback since Rodgers in 2012. They just hadn't won each time he did it.

If memory serves Rodgers had quite a few game tying or go ahead touchdowns in 4th that the defense could not hold. Darn, I just compare Love to Rodgers.

 

[Schultz]

I've recently mentioned Hurts prev seasons compared to Loves

But this is really an eye opener. I haven't seen Hurts play to much this year, wonder how his interceptions happened.

He threw the ball and the other team caught it.

 

[longtimefan]

He threw the ball and the other team caught it.

Ok smart ***

When Love throws one it's always his fault. When Jalen throws one I bet it's someone else's fault

 

[Schultz]

Ok smart ***

When Love throws one it's always his fault. When Jalen throws one I bet it's someone else's fault

Lighten up Francis. Just my weak attempt at humor.

 

[longtimefan]

Lighten up Francis. Just my weak attempt at humor.

May want to try to ghost comic

D:ick

If you can call me a woman's name I'll call you a man's name

 

[tynimiller]

Is what it is. Claim no ownership of the original but saw this picture and freaking envisioned this…. So did it

 

[longtimefan]

If memory serves Rodgers had quite a few game tying or go ahead touchdowns in 4th that the defense could not hold. Darn, I just compare Love to Rodgers.

Stop being a smart a** to stir up crap

It isn't comparing love to rodgers..

But you KNOW this

 

[Firethorn1001]

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[longtimefan]

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And yes

Francis..full metal and stripes

I too can try to be a comic

 

[Krabs]

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Did any of those completions have air time of 30+ yards? For example, the Wicks catch and run was a lot of effort on the WR's part. I'd be curious to see how many of those completions were actually 30 yards and not a 7 yard catch that turned into a 30+ yard completion. I think it is fairly evident that Love needs to work on his deep ball. But hey, good for him. I do think that there is good progression during his season.

 

[BrokenArrow]

May want to try to ghost comic

D:ick

If you can call me a woman's name I'll call you a man's name

I had an uncle Francis.

 

[PackerDNA]

I had an uncle Francis.

I had Uncle Caroll and AuntOllie.
John Wayne's real name was Marion.

 

[BrokenArrow]

I had Uncle Caroll and AuntOllie.
John Wayne's real name was Marion.

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