The Jordan Love Era Begins

[Mondio]

I always compare and contrast the loss to the Seahawks and a recent one to Brady and the Bucs. Game on the line, we're facing a 3rd and medium I think and he zips one out to Quarless I think? who's covered and has it knocked out, we punt. Could have sealed it there.

Then I think to like a 3rd and 10, to get the ball back, brady just lofts it out to a completely wide open Gronk who just runs under it and goes off for 20+ yards.

Brady is the GOAT and Rodgers is just a choker...
about the only thing I pin on Rodgers in that Seattle game is a poor pass out to Cobb that was picked.

 

[mradtke66]

about the only thing I pin on Rodgers in that Seattle game is a poor pass out to Cobb that was picked.

Was that the pass where Rodgers got them to jump, but the flag didn't come out? (Pass should have been better in any case)

 

[Mondio]

Was that the pass where Rodgers got them to jump, but the flag didn't come out? (Pass should have been better in any case)

No, that was to the endzone and I forget who for, St. Brown? That should have been a free play shot to the endzone. This one was around the 40 maybe? near the sideline to Cobb.

 

[longtimefan]

He also had a severely injured calf muscle, iirc. He more or less couldn't scramble. I have a hard time being annoyed with his effort/output that game given all the

the week before he played lights out vs Dallas if I recall correctly and calf was worse.

So it was proven the injury should have mattered

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[Mondio]

one of those games was against a very pedestrian defense in a pretty normal year vs one of the NFL all time best defenses a week later. One inside in a dome and the other in temps in the 40's.
It probably mattered more than some might admit.

 

[OldSchool101]

It’s hard to Run with HOF Type QB’s in succession. However IF (Big IF) here. Can you imagine how jealous other fans will be if Love turns out anywhere close to Favre or Rodgers?

If we get another productive 15 seasons etc.. and suddenly we’re talking near 50 years of play with just 3 primary Starting QB’s??
It would likely be an NFL record that will never be broken.

Let’s Do This!

 

[mradtke66]

It’s hard to Run with HOF Type QB’s in succession. However IF (Big IF) here. Can you imagine how jealous other fans will be if Love turns out anywhere close to Favre or Rodgers?

It'd be absurd. I certainly hope he's good, but I'm (at this time) betting on he probably won't. Not because he's shown me he's bad, but because the likely hood of any quarterback is low. Likely hood of getting 3 in a row has to be approaching zero.

 

[mradtke66]

No, that was to the endzone and I forget who for, St. Brown? That should have been a free play shot to the endzone. This one was around the 40 maybe? near the sideline to Cobb.

I'm confused. 2014, against Seattle was St. Brown even around yet? I think you and I talking about the same play, but maybe I'm just struggling to read.

 

[Mondio]

ha, probably not. I don't know who it was too, I can't remember that part.

 

[AmishMafia]

It'd be absurd. I certainly hope he's good, but I'm (at this time) betting on he probably won't. Not because he's shown me he's bad, but because the likely hood of any quarterback is low. Likely hood of getting 3 in a row has to be approaching zero.

The likelihood of getting 3 in a row is near zero. But the probability of getting one is not affected by anything in the past. The odds of Love is better than most QBs, IMHO, because he has a tremendous skill set AND he got to sit and learn. Additionally, the Packers may have a better QB development system in place. MM always called it QB school. I'm sure every team has something like it, but it seems like the Packers have more of a process.

But i can tell you, if Love hits, every other team in the NFL will start drafting QBs several years prior to being needed.

 

[mradtke66]

The odds of Love is better than most QBs, IMHO, because he has a tremendous skill set AND he got to sit and learn.

I'm not necessarily sure that's true. I don't know if sitting is necessarily a key to success. I doubt it hurts, but I'm not sure it helps either.

For me, it's the inverse of drafting. If a 33% is a good success rate, declare every pick bad, and the odds are in your favor.

Additionally, the Packers may have a better QB development system in place. MM always called it QB school. I'm sure every team has something like it, but it seems like the Packers have more of a process.

That was specifically under McCarthy and sadly, it went away with the most recent CBA. I forget the exact details, but specialist and QBs were allowed additional offseason/pre-season time. I can't remember if it was slotted around OTAs, pre-pre-season, or something else. Drill your drop backs, work on fakes, all the nuances that can split excellent excellent QBs from average ones. I firmly believe that Rodgers benefitted greatly from it.

With the CBA as of 2011, that extra time is banned. QB School died with it.

But i can tell you, if Love hits, every other team in the NFL will start drafting QBs several years prior to being needed.

All but certainly!

 

[PackAttack12]

Alright, kid. You’re up.

 

[OldSchool101]

The likelihood of getting 3 in a row is near zero. But the probability of getting one is not affected by anything in the past. The odds of Love is better than most QBs, IMHO, because he has a tremendous skill set AND he got to sit and learn. Additionally, the Packers may have a better QB development system in place. MM always called it QB school. I'm sure every team has something like it, but it seems like the Packers have more of a process.

But i can tell you, if Love hits, every other team in the NFL will start drafting QBs several years prior to being needed.

Yes. We go from the internal laughing stock idiots who drafted at QB to the Platinum Template for the league’s most success practice. Pretty funny.

If you remember but too terribly long ago, drafting a QB was more common than not
1970’s- 6 drafted
1980’s- 8 Drafted
1990’s- 8 Drafted
2000’s- 5 Drafted
2010’s- 2 Drafted

Yet we draft Jordan Love in 2020 and Fans are acting irritated and Irate! The QB dry spell just before Love was the longest for the Packers in the Superbowl era. We drafted ZERO QB’s in the 4 preceding drafts leading up to Selecting Jordan Love. We also only draft 2 QB’s across the entire decade of 2010-2019. (2012,2015). Yet some posters act like we’re surprised when we select just 1 across 5 years of drafts.

Packers’ QB drafted seasons
1970,71,72,75,77,78(2)
1981(2),84,85,86,87,89
1991,92,93,95,96,97,98,99
2002,05,06,08(2),09
2012,15…..?…. …. ??…. ???
2020! How dare We!! Fire Brian now!

 

[AmishMafia]

Yes. We go from the internal laughing stock idiots who drafted at QB to the Platinum Template for the league’s most success practice. Pretty funny.

If you remember but too terribly long ago, drafting a QB was more common than not

1980’s- 8 Drafted
1990’s- 8 Drafted
2000’s- 5 Drafted
2010’s- 2 Drafted

Yet we draft Jordan Love in 2020 and Fans are acting irritated and Irate! The QB dry spell just before Love was the longest for the Packers in the Superboel era. We drafted ZERO QB’s in the 4 preceding drafts leading up to Selecting Jordan Love. We also only draft 2 QB’s across the entire decade of 2010-2019. (2012,2015). Yet some posters act like we’re surprised when we select just 1 across 5 years of drafts.

Packers’ QB drafted seasons

1981(2),84,85,86,87,89
1991,92,93,95,96,97,98,99
2002,05,06,08(2),09
2012,15…..?…. …. ??…. ???
2020! How dare We!! Fire Brian now!

To be fair, Wolf used 5th and 6th rounders. Seems there was a 4th rounder in there. It was impressive, his hit rate. All those guys sat on the roster for a few years and then were traded or left as FAs. I think at one point there were 3 former Packer QB draft picks starting in the NFL: Detmer, Brooks, and Hasselback. Maybe Kurt Warner (UDFA) can be lumped in there as well.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Yet we draft Jordan Love in 2020 and Fans are acting irritated and Irate! The QB dry spell just before Love was the longest for the Packers in the Superbowl era.

Good post. I was shocked when the Packers (not just Gute) selected Love. Much like the Rashan Gary pick, my gut reaction was that I thought it was using a high pick on a position that didn't need the attention. Here we are 3 years later and the Packers instincts on the need for Love were proven to be correct. Now we just have to hope that their instincts on his abilities were equally as correct.

How many first round QB's have bombed in the past 25 years? How many of those were in the first half of the draft and how many in the 2nd half of the draft? Had Gute waited around until 2023 to select a QB, who does he get in this draft? Maybe Ho0ker? Would ****** be the immediate starter or would the Packers have to of found a mid-priced FA vet to run the show for 2-3 years? I like the fact that Love has 3 years under his belt, behind a FHOF QB, before becoming the starter. While I expect him to make mistakes, I doubt he comes out looking like a rookie.

 

[Spanky]

Jordan Love better be good.

While the last 30 years have been sweet, most of the 70's and 80's were a suckfest. I don't want to go back to that!

 

[Deleted member 6794]

You just cant accept being wrong or differing view points can you? You are great with stats, but you suck on decorum and debate.

I don't have any issue with admitting being wrong or anyone having a different opinion. I actually enjoy debating with other posters as the forum would be a boring place if we just agreed on everything about our favorite team. You on the other hand put posters on ignore because you can't handle someone not agreeing with you.

In addition I have absolutely no idea when you proved me wrong nor the last time you posted one of your own opinions. The only thing you have done lately is linking to every single article which spun something in a negative way about Rodgers. The rest of your posts were shots fired at other posters you declared to have put on ignore. Oh, and I forgot your oh-so funny GIFs you post from time to time.

To sum it up (and I won't comment on it anymore moving forward to avoid a moderator needing to step in), you don't contribute any valuable content for the most part while being passive aggressive towards posters who dare to not share the same opinion as you. While it seemed to me like it was possible to have a civilized discussion with you for many, many years the last few months have made me a realized that's no true by any means. Truly sad.

Just because I got sick and tired of reading and responding to your 2 page posts, challenging just about everyone's opinion, doesn't mean I put you on ignore.

I have explained that the time difference, with me waking up in the morning after being asleep while most of you have posted, is the reason for me quoting several posts in a single reply. You getting upset by that once again proves you're not capable of participating in a civilized discussion.

No, that was to the endzone and I forget who for, St. Brown? That should have been a free play shot to the endzone. This one was around the 40 maybe? near the sideline to Cobb.

Rodgers tried to target Adams on the throw into the end zone which was intercepted by Sherman. The refs clearly missed the Seahawks jumping offside on that play.

one of those games was against a very pedestrian defense in a pretty normal year vs one of the NFL all time best defenses a week later. One inside in a dome and the other in temps in the 40's.

Just for the record, the Packers played the Cowboys at home the week before the NFCCG in Seattle.

Yes. We go from the internal laughing stock idiots who drafted at QB to the Platinum Template for the league’s most success practice. Pretty funny.

If you remember but too terribly long ago, drafting a QB was more common than not
1970’s- 6 drafted
1980’s- 8 Drafted
1990’s- 8 Drafted
2000’s- 5 Drafted
2010’s- 2 Drafted

Yet we draft Jordan Love in 2020 and Fans are acting irritated and Irate! The QB dry spell just before Love was the longest for the Packers in the Superbowl era. We drafted ZERO QB’s in the 4 preceding drafts leading up to Selecting Jordan Love. We also only draft 2 QB’s across the entire decade of 2010-2019. (2012,2015). Yet some posters act like we’re surprised when we select just 1 across 5 years of drafts.

Packers’ QB drafted seasons
1970,71,72,75,77,78(2)
1981(2),84,85,86,87,89
1991,92,93,95,96,97,98,99
2002,05,06,08(2),09
2012,15…..?…. …. ??…. ???
2020! How dare We!! Fire Brian now!

Well, the Packers having had two HOF quarterbacks starting since 1992 explains the number of quarterbacks drafted dropped. I wouldn't have been opposed to select a quarterback in the 2020 draft but I definitely had an issue with using a first rounder on one.

Here we are 3 years later and the Packers instincts on the need for Love were proven to be correct. Now we just have to hope that their instincts on his abilities were equally as correct.

At the time of the 2020 draft it was obvious to everyone that it would be possible for Rodgers to not be around three years later. That doesn't mean it was a good idea to forgo addressing immediate needs for a team coming off making it to the NFCCG.

 

[Mondio]

it's become apparent I don't remember **** about those 2 games LOL

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Jordan Love better be good.

While the last 30 years have been sweet, most of the 70's and 80's were a suckfest. I don't want to go back to that!

Think of it this way, Rodgers is 39 and not immortal. He claims he was 90% ready to retire, so his reign in GB was nearing its end anyway. At least before it did, the Packers got some draft stock, cap relief and might already have his successor in place.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Think of it this way, Rodgers is 39 and not immortal. He claims he was 90% ready to retire, so his reign in GB was nearing its end anyway. At least before it did, the Packers got some draft stock, cap relief and might already have his predecessor in place.

Wait a moment, Favre is coming back?

 

[gopkrs]

Well, the Packers having had two HOF quarterbacks starting since 1992 explains the number of quarterbacks drafted dropped. I wouldn't have been opposed to select a quarterback in the 2020 draft but I definitely had an issue with using a first rounder on one.

Well, for me, it will completely depend on how Love plays. Gute obviously thought at the time that someone was going to take him very soon. That said, I was watching an older Packer game against the Jets and Rodgers slung the ball amazingly. Not many QBs could throw it like that. I'm hoping Jordan is good at throwing the long ball. I can already see he is good at mid range. Obviously, to me, I think in a longer time frame than you do.

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

I just hope if Love is a flop, the front office will get him out of town
rather then stinging him along year after year.

Both Bart Star (as good as he was) and Rodgers both should have been released
one year sooner.

 

[pacmaniac]

I have explained that the time difference, with me waking up in the morning after being asleep while most of you have posted, is the reason for me quoting several posts in a single reply.

Why do you only reply in the morning? I do see you in the "Members online" at other times of the day.

 

[tynimiller]

Why do you only reply in the morning? I do see you in the "Members online" at other times of the day.

I believe if I remember Capt is over seas and his morning isn’t the same as many of ours I believe.

 

[Mondio]

I think he’s in Austria. He’s not on here when most of us in the US are. Those “online” indicators aren’t very accurate Ive found