The Jordan Love Era Begins

Will Jordan Love be 3 in a row for the Packers?

  • Yes, he's a FHOF Player

    Votes: 4 5.6%
  • He'll be pro bowl good but not FHOF good

    Votes: 20 27.8%
  • He'll be average

    Votes: 12 16.7%
  • No, he'll be a below average bust

    Votes: 4 5.6%
  • Too early to Tell

    Votes: 32 44.4%

  • Total voters
    72
  • Poll closed .

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Had a nice conversation with a reliable source of the team this morning. When the Jordan Love subject came up, he said simply, he is the real deal. He flat out said the organization knows it and so does Rodgers.

He also mentioned that Packer fans will be shocked when they see how good he is. Evidently his improvement over the last few years has been been astounding.

Man, when that conversation ended my excitement level was sky high. Actually gave me the chills.

#Promising #GPG #DHPF

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Whether you agree or don't agree about the merits of OTA's, I think the more important question to ask yourself is "If I was being paid $50+ M/year, to play a team Sport, would I only do what was mandatory/required or would I give the team everything I had?"

How you answer that, tells me what kind of a person you are.
 

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Had a nice conversation with a reliable source of the team this morning. When the Jordan Love subject came up, he said simply, he is the real deal. He flat out said the organization knows it and so does Rodgers.

He also mentioned that Packer fans will be shocked when they see how good he is. Evidently his improvement over the last few years has been been astounding.

Man, when that conversation ended my excitement level was sky high. Actually gave me the chills.

#Promising #GPG #DHPF

JoeyT
This makes total sense to me and we only have AR to thank. All of the extra work Love has been able to get in at the OTAs that Rodgers missed has him primed and ready to be the next GB FHOF QB.
 
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I"ve said it a million times, but OTA's to me are nothing but health checks for injuries, touch base and for new guys to the team. The stuff for vets and the core stuff for the season happens when August hits.
Ok. Forget about the term OTA’s. We’re all getting too caught up in terminology. Big picture here.

Why is Aaron Rodgers seen participating in workouts now?
If they aren’t helpful, why is he wasting his time?
 
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Ok. Forget about the term OTA’s. We’re all getting too caught up in terminology. Big picture here.

Why is Aaron Rodgers seen participating in workouts now?
If they aren’t helpful, why is he wasting his time?
Do you think Rodgers doesn’t work out in the off-season? Are all his current and past teammates that say they’ve never met somebody who demands as much or competes more on a play by play basis in practice than Aaron Rodgers lying?

Nobody has ever questioned his work or ethic, until he skipped an orientation meeting.
 
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Do you think Rodgers doesn’t work out in the off-season? Are all his current and past teammates that say they’ve never met somebody who demands as much or competes more on a play by play basis in practice than Aaron Rodgers lying?

Nobody has ever questioned his work or ethic, until he skipped an orientation meeting.
That was just a generic response.
You didn’t answer the question. Let’s go back as recently as 2022
Who was Aaron Rodgers working out with in 2022 or in that off-season?
That was the argument

Maybe he was. I’d like your evidence
 

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You didn’t answer the question. Who was he working out with in April of 2022? Give us names
Oh, it’s this game huh?

I feel very confident in say Rodgers has worked out when cameras weren’t on every off-season from the time he was drafted until now, without fail or exception. Including last year. I highly doubt throwing a pass or catching one from Lazard this year has been the first time.

I’ll get you the names when we find the by line item accounting for how much Aaron Rodgers has brought to the Packers.
 

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That was just a generic response.
You didn’t answer the question. Let’s go back as recently as 2022
Who was Aaron Rodgers working out with in 2022 or in that off-season?
That was the argument

Maybe he was. I’d like your evidence
Good luck
 

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Oh, it’s this game huh?

I feel very confident in say Rodgers has worked out when cameras weren’t on every off-season from the time he was drafted until now, without fail or exception. Including last year. I highly doubt throwing a pass or catching one from Lazard this year has been the first time.

I’ll get you the names when we find the by line item accounting for how much Aaron Rodgers has brought to the Packers.
Were there pictures and stories of AR playing catch with wr prior to this??

Thats the question
 

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Were there pictures and stories of AR playing catch with wr prior to this??

Thats the question
I got the question. I don’t have any answers for you. I don’t have privy to any news stories you guys don’t have access too.

His coaches, past and current teammates and history has shown he’s never been one not to work. I’m fact they all say he’s one of the hardest working, so I’m assuming last year was no different in that regard. Same as your assuming he didn’t, because he skipped an orientation meeting.
 
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Oh, it’s this game huh?

I feel very confident in say Rodgers has worked out when cameras weren’t on every off-season from the time he was drafted until now, without fail or exception. Including last year. I highly doubt throwing a pass or catching one from Lazard this year has been the first time.

I’ll get you the names when we find the by line item accounting for how much Aaron Rodgers has brought to the Packers.
No it’s not a game. It’s a real question. Show me where he was doing non mandatory workouts last season after getting league high money so I can believe you. If you can find some on the level of April of 2022 or slightly before would really be wonderful.

Don’t get mad at me if you can’t.
I just asked because maybe you have information I don’t. I’m giving you benefit of the doubt here.

Edit. I wrote this as you responded then read the post above. It’s np. I just am not going to change my mind until I see evidence he worked out with his newer players after drastic changes to his surroundings last season. Personally I think he has been irritated with our FO and he wasn’t going to do a darn thing past mandatory. It’s circumstantial but it speaks to his lack of commitment level RECENTLY Him not doing workouts was a reflection on lack of commitment and the fact we missed the playoffs by 1 TD is just very telling to me.
 
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I got the question. I don’t have any answers for you. I don’t have privy to any news stories you guys don’t have access too.

His coaches, past and current teammates and history has shown he’s never been one not to work. I’m fact they all say he’s one of the hardest working, so I’m assuming last year was no different in that regard. Same as your assuming he didn’t, because he skipped an orientation meeting.
So why now,did his or his team release pics of him and Lazard?

Why have we not seen this b4?

2 reasons

Either didn't happen,.or.he didn't want it to get out
 

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No it’s not a game. It’s a real question. Show me where he was doing non mandatory workouts last season after getting league high money so I can believe you. If you can find some on the level of April of 2022 or slightly before would really be wonderful.

Don’t get mad at me if you can’t.
I just asked because maybe you have information I don’t. I’m giving you benefit of the doubt here.
I didn’t realize I was mad

I’ve answered it as best I could. Don’t believe me, I don’t expect you to be convinced.

I believe he’s shown to be one of the hardest working over the course of almost 20 years backed up by and expounded upon by current and past teammates. I don’t believe that has changed.

Guys who don’t work show up out of shape, arm soreness, etc. he never has, including last year. I assume he put in work. You assume he didn’t
 

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Wasn't Rodgers vacationing in Hawaii with Shailene, Teller and his wife back in 2021, while his teammates worked out? Oh wait, the receiving room decided they'd do what Rodgers did and not show up either. Great leader!

I'll stick to my previous statement, those that want to apologize for Rodgers, do so because his behaviors mirror their own.
 
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I’ve answered it as best I could. Don’t believe me, I don’t expect you to be convinced.

I believe he’s shown to be one of the hardest working over the course of almost 20 years backed up by and expounded upon by current and past teammates. I don’t believe that has changed.

Guys who don’t work show up out of shape, arm soreness, etc. he never has, including last year. I assume he put in work. You assume he didn’t
I never argued about his past. I agree at one time he was more committed.
I’m arguing that recent history shows he’s held contempt for this organization. That contempt played out by him missing the playoffs against the Lions at Lambeau. What a fitting end to his legacy here. He gets beat by weaker Defense and our Defense finally holds strong against a good Offense.

I don’t think Rodgers had his heart in it in 2022. I think he went through the motions and he tried. Big difference between that and fully committed.

Ironically I just met with some guys to form a mens group tonight. We went around and each answered a question that was 1 of 3 asked. What is our commitment level on a 1-10 scale. It’s a really really important question when it comes to success in anything. I didn’t ask the question but my answer was a 10 and I meant it. I didn’t see a 10 level commitment from Aaron Rodgers last season. I just didn’t.
 
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He also mentioned that Packer fans will be shocked when they see how good he is. Evidently his improvement over the last few years has been been astounding.
If that's true, maybe we've found the perfect method for developing quarterbacks. Let him sit three years behind the prior one. The only bad thing is it means ticking off the old QB to develop the new one. Oh well, there are worse things.
 
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Great news, though... for the 1st time in 3 seasons the Packer's starting QB is at voluntary workouts which began yesterday! :)

Let's focus on the really important stuff :rolleyes:

"And so for the success of any championship team, there has to be a commitment as a group that you're going to be the hardest working group and the hardest working team to play against. Now it sounds easy and it sounds simple, but as days go by, and the year drags on, mentally becomes more and more tough. You have to have the right frame of mind. You have to be strong-willed, and you have to believe that the practice you're putting in and the time you putting in is going to make you a better player and a better team the next day. Nobody thought of practice as, oh gosh, I got to practice today. I want to make the Hall of Fame. It was all about taking in the knowledge of what's going to make us more successful as a group, what's going to make our path to lifting the Stanley Cup the best path possible. And that was easy. That was through hard work and commitment. There's no shortcuts. There's no angles. You have to put in the time." - Wayne Gretzky

Practice with a purpose, to make "the group" better.

I truly love Gretzky but all of his commitment wasn't good enough to win another Stanley Cup in 11 seasons after he left Edmonton and wasn't surrounded by superior talent compared to other teams anymore.

Now in a situation where you have new receivers and/or a new QB, I feel strongly that you want your vets and new guys, of those 2 groups, to spend as much time together as they can. I don't remember the game it happened in, but I remember there was some talk after, of Rodgers hand signals and if the receivers understood them yet.

There would have definitely not be any talk about hand signals during OTAs even if Rodgers showed up for them.

Side bet, if Rodgers is traded to the Jets BEFORE OTA's....he will attend them. Why? Not because he needs the practice for himself, but he needs to practice with his new teammates. Not to mention, to show his new fan base and coaches, he is all in.

Rodgers will be a new addition with the Jets, therefore it makes perfect sense for him to attend OTAs.

If OTAs were as worthless as many people claim....I see zero reason why they even would exist and be utilized by so many teams.

There aren't worthless for a lot of players. Veterans showing up for them doesn't make a difference though.

But I'm not surprised the Packers might breath a sigh of relief breaking ties with this era, because while there was a lot of success, it was also frustrating and exhausting.

They might end up looking back with a lot of melancholy in some years if they end up struggling in the near future though.

As I've said before, maybe the biggest problem with Rodgers is that he was overhyped. It created expectations that were not met.

Rodgers won four MVP awards while playing for the Packers and you still consider him overhyped? Wow. Unfortunately they ended up winning only one Super Bowl because the front office wasn't able to surround him with better talent for most seasons.

Wasn't Rodgers vacationing in Hawaii with Shailene, Teller and his wife back in 2021, while his teammates worked out? Oh wait, the receiving room decided they'd do what Rodgers did and not show up either. Great leader!

Once again, Rodgers missed only one mandatory minicamp during his tenure with the Packers while being in a dispute with the team's management. Yet Packers' fans vilify him because of it while using Brady as an example of how to be a leader despite him taking an 11-day vacation during training camp last season because most media outlets support that narrative.

I'll stick to my previous statement, those that want to apologize for Rodgers, do so because his behaviors mirror their own.

Let me ask you a simple question. How much voluntary work have you done for the company you work for despite not being paid any additional money for it?
 

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Let's focus on the really important stuff :rolleyes:
You're absolutely, 100% correct, again... let's focus on:
- The Aaron Rodgers trade that HASN'T happened, yet.
- The free agent signings that HAVEN'T happened yet, due to the salary cap murkiness because of above.
- The draft, which hasn't happened, yet, and GB STILL doesn't know what picks they'll be using.

So much to focus on I'm having a hard time taking it all in. smh
 

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If that's true, maybe we've found the perfect method for developing quarterbacks. Let him sit three years behind the prior one. The only bad thing is it means ticking off the old QB to develop the new one. Oh well, there are worse things.
let's hope that's the secret sauce
 

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Had a nice conversation with a reliable source of the team this morning. When the Jordan Love subject came up, he said simply, he is the real deal. He flat out said the organization knows it and so does Rodgers.

He also mentioned that Packer fans will be shocked when they see how good he is. Evidently his improvement over the last few years has been been astounding.

Man, when that conversation ended my excitement level was sky high. Actually gave me the chills.

#Promising #GPG #DHPF

JoeyT
I believe!!!!

Thanks for sharing.
 

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My gosh, the nonsensical back and forth - is this what this place has denegrated to in the absence of my calming wisdom and insightful football knowledge?

All right, here we go:

OTAs also go over new wrinkles/additions to the offense/defensive schemes.
Rodgers can pick it up quickly - but his participation in the meetings would be huge helping the newbies understand and, as he will be leading the offense on the field, getting on the same page.
There is no doubt the last few years the offense is way out of sync the first few games.
I dont recall ever hearing or seeing him work out in the offseason with teammates. In a world where everyone has a video recording device and the opportunity to publish things to the world instantly - you would think we would have seen some of it.
Rodgers does work very hard and comes to camp in shape - but those are physical conditioning workouts with a trainer.

Other QBs will get several receivers and run patterns. We all saw what years of Rodgers throwing to Adams did for their connection. Had he worked on it more with other young receivers, who knows where our offense would be.

Don't underestimate the importance of leadership.
 
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