The Jordan Love Era Begins

[rmontro]

The Packers actually made $231.7 million of local revenue for the fiscal year that ended on March 31, 2022. That accounted for 40% of their total revenue last year and definitely isn't only a small fraction.

Is the stock sale included in that number?

 

[longtimefan]

Is the stock sale included in that number?

The stock sale, which ended on Feb. 25, generated $64.7 million,

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I saw that. I also saw they made $61M the year before. I know Murphy is good, but quadrupling revenue in a single year is a bit much. Probably an accounting maneuver to for some long range tax saving strategy. There isn't that much going on over there. Although they just finished that office building - I doubt it brings in $160M per year.

The reason the Packers only generated $61 million of local revenue in the fiscal year of 2021 (which ran from April 1, 2020, until March 31, 2021) is that fans weren't allowed to show up for games because of COVID-19.

For comparison, that number was at $203.6 million in 2020 and $210.9 million in 2019.

Just to be clear, I have never said that Rodgers or any other player for that matter, hasn't helped the team to be successful and that success has made the team a cash cow.

You literally mentioned that Rodgers didn't have any impact on the Packers' revenue. That's utter BS and you know it.

Every ticket available for the Packers to profit from is already sold, TV money is locked in, parking, concessions and everything else associated with packing Lambeau for every game is all but certain, unless covid is back.

The Packers would lose revenue by fans not showing up for games because the team struggles or those who attend games spending less money at the stadium or Titletown because of it.

Is the stock sale included in that number?

Yes, the fiscal numbers from 2022 include the stock sale. There's no way of telling how much of that $58.5 million were generated locally though.

 

[AmishMafia]

The reason the Packers only generated $61 million of local revenue in the fiscal year of 2021 (which ran from April 1, 2020, until March 31, 2021) is that fans weren't allowed to show up for games because of COVID-19.

For comparison, that number was at $203.6 million in 2020 and $210.9 million in 2019.

Oh yeah! COVID. I forgot all about that thing. You are right.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Oh yeah! COVID. I forgot all about that thing. You are right.

Rodgers also didn't have his $50+million immunization tour in 2021 either.

According to some posters, the Packers should keep a close eye on their bankroll in the coming years, without Rodgers, they will stand to lose over $50+ Million of their income. Going to be really hard to fill those seats without him, might as well move them to Milwaukee.

 

[AmishMafia]

Rodgers also didn't have his $50+million immunization tour in 2021 either.

According to some posters, the Packers should keep a close eye on their bankroll in the coming years, without Rodgers, they will stand to lose over $50+ Million of their income. Going to be really hard to fill those seats without him, might as well move them to Milwaukee.

There are a lot of folks who are much bigger Rodgers fans than Packer fans and it skews their opinions. I'm going to tell you, amongst my friends, family, coworkers, etc - most are done with Rodgers. This includes some very ardent supporters.

His departure will not effect the bottom line by a single penny. Years of poor play will cause issues. But I expect the Packers to be competitive for the foreseeable future.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

There are a lot of folks who are much bigger Rodgers fans than Packer fans and it skews their opinions. I'm going to tell you, amongst my friends, family, coworkers, etc - most are done with Rodgers. This includes some very ardent supporters.

His departure will not effect the bottom line by a single penny. Years of poor play will cause issues. But I expect the Packers to be competitive for the foreseeable future.

Agreed. Like many (Packer fans), I have been a Rodgers fan for most of his career in GB. At some point you have to take your green and gold tinted glasses off though and see the guy for who he has become. Hopefully, those fans that still want and need to carry his torch, will find another hero to make their lives complete.

My brother-in-law's Aunt is a nun living in Green Bay and is a die hard Packer fan, even dye's her hair green on occasion. Oh if God heard what she says about Rodgers, she might want to bring help when its time to get into heaven.

But much like an ex-President, its all just fake news trying to make the guy look bad.

 

[gopkrs]

There are a lot of folks who are much bigger Rodgers fans than Packer fans and it skews their opinions. I'm going to tell you, amongst my friends, family, coworkers, etc - most are done with Rodgers. This includes some very ardent supporters.

His departure will not effect the bottom line by a single penny. Years of poor play will cause issues. But I expect the Packers to be competitive for the foreseeable future.

The big mistake was not trading ARod last year. And there were some fans on this forum and others elsewhere that helped pressure Gute into that decision IMHO.

 

[longtimefan]

The big mistake was not trading ARod last year. And there were some fans on this forum and others elsewhere that helped pressure Gute into that decision IMHO.

If he wouldn’t got the deal he did those same people would he pissed

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The big mistake was not trading ARod last year. And there were some fans on this forum and others elsewhere that helped pressure Gute into that decision IMHO.

I don't think any of us have even a .0000000000000001% chance of influencing Gute's decisions. However, I do agree that Rodgers should have been traded last year. The "problem" was, he was coming off of back to back MVP seasons and had he thrived somewhere else and Love stank, fans would be screaming for Gute's head. But yes, his trade value was so much higher last year. His "90% sure I was going to retire" comment, pushed that value down even lower.

 

[OldSchool101]

I don't think any of us have even a .0000000000000001% chance of influencing Gute's decisions. However, I do agree that Rodgers should have been traded last year. The "problem" was, he was coming off of back to back MVP seasons and had he thrived somewhere else and Love stank, fans would be screaming for Gute's head. But yes, his trade value was so much higher last year. His "90% sure I was going to retire" comment, pushed that value down even lower.

Do you think he pulled the “90% retirement” thing intentionally? Idc one way or another just curious to hear your take.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but his personality speaks to that being very intentional or almost rehearsed. Not to mention the remark about GB “digging their heels in”.
#1 Why wouldn’t they, would he want to be traded for a 7th Round Comp?
#2Why no remark about NY digging theirs in? Or just saying both teams are digging their heels in which is the whole truth.
Then he goes on to throw ground cover with saying how he loves the Packer fans and restaurant and business owners? Is that how you treat your family/fans you say the team they support are a stubborn bunch? Why take the jabs, you’re gone either way.
He’s either tactless or it’s intentional imo.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Do you think he pulled the 90% thing intentionally? Idc one way or another just curious to hear your take.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but his personality speaks to that being very intentional or almost rehearsed. Not to mention the remark about GB “digging their heels in”. #1 Why wouldn’t they? #2Why no remark about NY digging theirs in?

Of course he did. Nobody has ever accused Rodgers of being stupid, quite the opposite actually, he has immunized himself from being stupid. His thoughts and words are very measured, calculated and delivered for an intended purpose. He probably often considers himself to be the smartest guy in the room, which is why he loves being on the Pat M. show. He controls the narrative, with a group of guys that think he is gods gift to football.

 

[OldSchool101]

Of course he did. Nobody has ever accused Rodgers of being stupid, quite the opposite actually. His thoughts and words are very measured, calculated and delivered for an intended purpose. He probably often considers himself to be the smartest guy in the room, which is why he loves being on the Pat M. show. He controls the narrative, with a group of guys that think he is gods gift to football.

Gotcha, thanks
He does make them a lot of money. If that money stopped flowing or leaked out of their pockets, I’m sure they’d kick him to the curb like a game of Kick The Can.

I think what I like most about Jordan is he’s not so arrogant. I still believe that guys like Aaron Jones, Jordy Nelson, Leroy Butler and James Jones, Bart Starr and Larry MCarren etc.. are the most quality players.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

He does make them a lot of money. If that money stopped flowing or leaked out of their pockets, I’m sure they’d kick him to the curb like a game of Kick The Can.

I am assuming you mean the Pat M. show? I can't remember the numbers, but I think their normal online viewing is around 20k-40K per show. The day Rodgers came on after his spelunking tour, I think they hit 250,000 viewers, so if you were referring to the Pat M show....yup, he does make them money.

 

[Mondio]

Many of US, YOU included said Rodgers looked and sounded like he was retiring after his final game walking off with Cobb and wouldn’t do the jersey swap.


But now, you claim he said the 90% retired so he can somehow screw the Packers. We all could see it, you even stated it Could it be the reality was after the season when all the wounds were fresh he actually was contemplating retirement?

Of course not, that would be acceptable and nothing he does can be acceptable for some of you.

 

[rmontro]

What does "90% retired" mean anyway? Could mean he plays two more years, maybe three. Maybe one, I guess. Maybe it's his way of messing with the Jets' heads now. Whatever. I'm beginning to think this high maintenance stuff just goes with the territory when it comes to aging HOF quarterbacks. Do people complain about Brady's waffling?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

What does "90% retired" mean anyway? Could mean he plays two more years, maybe three. Maybe one, I guess. Maybe it's his way of messing with the Jets' heads now. Whatever. I'm beginning to think this high maintenance stuff just goes with the territory when it comes to aging HOF quarterbacks. Do people complain about Brady's waffling?

He was implying that he felt that there was only a 10% chance of him wanting to play in 2023. If you believe the reports, when the Jets heard that, they cooled on the deal a bit. I can't blame them one bit, if he was only 10% sure of playing in 2023, what are the odds he will play in 2024?

 

[tynimiller]

I mean it is quite simple if Im Gute and Jets the fact or worry of Rodgers playing in future is starts with the 13th this year for one year of Rodgers, next year is just a third or fourth. 2025 say starts as a third but can swing either way depending if he plays or not in 2024 and which team gets the pick and escalators.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I mean it is quite simple if Im Gute and Jets the fact or worry of Rodgers playing in future is starts with the 13th this year for one year of Rodgers, next year is just a third or fourth. 2025 say starts as a third but can swing either way depending if he plays or not in 2024 and which team gets the pick and escalators.

Id rather the Packers say "You can have him for a 1st and a 2nd and we are done, even if he plays another 5 years." IF the Jets don't want to risk that, then as you said "OK, first year is your #13, 2nd year is your 2nd round, 3rd year your 3rd....and so on." The Jets want to pay a discount, because nobody knows how long he will play, I get that, but you can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Poppa San]

But much like an ex-President

STOP now with the political digs.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

STOP now with the political digs.

The guy I was referring to no longer holds a political office, but point taken.

BTW, the term "fake news", started long before him (he didn't invent the term, as he wants people to believe). It's been used since the very first newspaper was printed.

Interesting read:

A Real History of Fake News

It has a long, not-so-illustrious past.

www.americanpurpose.com

 

[Poppa San]

The guy I was referring to no longer holds a political office, but point taken.

BTW, the term "fake news", started long before him (he didn't invent the term, as he wants people to believe). It's been used since the very first newspaper was printed.

Interesting read:

A Real History of Fake News

It has a long, not-so-illustrious past.

www.americanpurpose.com

The person you referred to is currently an announced candidate for political office so yeah it was a political dig.

 

[rmontro]

He was implying that he felt that there was only a 10% chance of him wanting to play in 2023.

Did he say that, or did he say he was 90% retired? Because one does not necessarily equal the other.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Did he say that, or did he say he was 90% retired? Because one does not necessarily equal the other.

You should listen to what he said on the Pat M show and draw your own conclusions.

Rodgers: 'I went into the darkness 90% retiring' | Watch ESPN

Stream Rodgers: 'I went into the darkness 90% retiring' on Watch ESPN

www.espn.com

 

[Deleted member 6794]

There are a lot of folks who are much bigger Rodgers fans than Packer fans and it skews their opinions.

I highly doubt there's a single poster around here who is a bigger Rodgers than Packers fan.

But there are several ones who can appreciate what he has done for the franchise and that it's possible that most of us won't see quarterback play at the same elite level for the Packers ever again during our lifetime.

As a Packer fan I would have liked Rodgers to finish his career with the team as there's no doubt in my mind he currently gives the team the best chance to win. It's anybody's guess if they will be able to contend with Love or any other QB for that matter in the future.

In my opinion it's actually the other way around. There are too many people around who hate Rodgers more than they care about the Packers and it skews their opinion.

His departure will not effect the bottom line by a single penny. Years of poor play will cause issues. But I expect the Packers to be competitive for the foreseeable future.

It's utter nonsense to believe Rodgers being traded won't impact revenue at all. Especially considering it could be the main reason for the team to struggle for quite some time. I definitely don't expect them to be competitive next season.

The big mistake was not trading ARod last year. And there were some fans on this forum and others elsewhere that helped pressure Gute into that decision IMHO.

Gutekunst should be fired immediately if he allows fans on a forum to have an impact on his decisions.

I am assuming you mean the Pat M. show? I can't remember the numbers, but I think their normal online viewing is around 20k-40K per show. The day Rodgers came on after his spelunking tour, I think they hit 250,000 viewers, so if you were referring to the Pat M show....yup, he does make them money.

That's hilarious. You agree that Rodgers appearing on the McAfee show makes them a ton of money but yet you truly believe that him not being on the Packers anymore won't have any impact on their revenue

He was implying that he felt that there was only a 10% chance of him wanting to play in 2023. If you believe the reports, when the Jets heard that, they cooled on the deal a bit. I can't blame them one bit, if he was only 10% sure of playing in 2023, what are the odds he will play in 2024?

It's mind-boggling there are that
many fans who truly believe that comment lowered his trade value.

Rodgers will be 40 years and nine months old at the time the 2024 season gets underway. There have only been five quarterbacks in NFL history who have thrown more than 300 passes after being that old and yet some of you think the Jets needed Rodgers to tell them on the McAfee show to figure out there's a distinct possibility he would only play another year?

Some of you really need to use some common sense.