Because it’s a dead issue and you still want to rehash it. Enough already. It’s been dead. It’s over. Done. Finished. Beating a dead horse. Go mod something else. I’m not interested in rehashing it, or your baiting today. Move the hell on. Everyone else has.
Gotta bring him back. He proved what he could do in 2020 and was a blatant Pro Bowl snub that year. Guys rarely return to form the first season following an ACL tear. He should be given the chance to show it again next year.
No doubt you bring him back, but not on a very big contract and very few guarantees. However, you don't rely on him as your #1 TE, that would be repeating the same mistake they did at TE and WR this year. He's a decent enough #2 TE, but his pay should reflect that.
If they fix the offensive line, he’s worth it. He’s being wasted right now as a patch for blocking. We fix our OLine , we can use our TEs properly in the red zone.
The thing is, Tonyan has the most targets that he has ever had in a season, but his catch % is down, as are his yds/catch. So yes, he is having to help on the OL, but even when targeted, he is doing a lot less than the one season he excelled (at scoring TD's). Bobby T is just an average TE, expecting/relying on too much out of him, would be a mistake IMO.
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Agreed. I am amazed that fist fights don't break out at the Annual Packer Forum get-together each year. Good thing they put me in charge of sending out the invitations.
And after that it was done. There were other mods on and I never brought it up again. Then we went back to talk about the game so enough already my God! Why are you still fixated on this?!? You’re not God here. Don’t you have a job or something to do more worth while then to keep going about this?!?!? You have a problem with me for some reason and you need to knock this crap off. Stop baiting. Grow up. Now I’m done with this.
I can see your point
Man. If we had a bonafide TE1 we’d be loads better. I’m talking a guy that maybe not Kelce, but in the mold of a Mark Andrews, George Kittle, Dallas Goedert area.
I still can’t believe the Lions traded Hockenson within the division. Would have loved to have had him.
Up until 3 or 4 years ago, Rodgers was blessed with some really good WR talent and it was easy to overlook the TE as a receiver. Now we have a team with very little in the way of receiving threats (Watson slowly coming into his own), so not having a TE as a weapon hurts just that much more. Except for Jermichael Finley in Rodgers first 5 seasons as a starter, he really hasn't had a real playmaker at the position. When he finally hangs it up, there will always be talk of what could have been, had he been given more weapons.
I thought they were a dud in the first half and stud in the 2nd.
Rodgers has been off target a lot this year. You can attribute that also to having young receivers missing routes and assignments, but for example, the one to Lazard last week was all on him. I’m not sure if he’s pressing too much because of the inexperience of our receivers or his thumb injury being so bad, but he has been in accurate more so than usual.
Don't know why you have a thing about Jaire. And yeah... What Then? Nothing. We pretty much know what we have with him and it isn't half linebacker. I'll take him.
Agreed. All our expectations were raised when he had that year, 2020 I think, with like 11 TDs. Thanks for the stats. I never would have guessed he's had that many targets this year. Average is pretty high praise for him.
Jaire is fine. People are pissed because he's not living up to his #1 pay and he has a hard time admitting mistakes. Compared to Damarius Randall and Quentin Rollins and Kevin King, he's a dream come true.
Agree. Hockenson is one of the top 5 TEs in the NFL. What did the Lions get for him? I'm guessing they'd like that trade back.
I think a lot of it is the game planning. Earlier in the year he was getting a lot of those pitiful passes in the flat and hardly ever over the middle of the field. I am surprised though that he has had more targets than in his really good year.
Joe!!! Long time no see! How was your Christmas? The Lions received a 2023 second-round pick and a 2024 third-round pick, while the Vikings got a 2023 fourth-round selection and a conditional 2024 fourth-round pick
What am I missing? Hasn't Tom played great? I don't think he is giving up any sacks as rookie at Left Tackle.
Hi buddy. Christmas was great, thanks! Wow that's a pretty good deal for Hockenson. If the GM knew the team would go on a 6-1 run I doubt they would have traded him. The Lions are coming on.
Tom is one guy and yeah, he was a good find. Maybe the issue is consistency. The more guys play next to each other, the better they communicate and the more effective they are. Bakhtiari has been in and out, Jenkins missed time, other guys missed time. It just seems to me that the OL created problems with the O due to a lack of consistency. No one's fault. MLF had to play the hand he was dealt.
