Studs n duds Cards

[Dantés]

Yeah Lefleur mentioned that the Cards were putting in their super Jumbo package “daring the Packers to pass”… I would have liked the Packers to respond by pulling all the receivers… and respond in kind… and give Dillon a chance to pound it right at them…. at least once.

And I would add that while that may be true about the looks Arizona gave them at the goal line, they still tried to run it with Jones. How about use Dillon?

 

[easyk83]

Next man up is fine if the next man has similar abilities but they are the next men for a reason. A different skill set might necessitate a change of game plan to best utilize them but that in itself can lessen the effectiveness of the offense. Honestly I didn't see much of the next man up last night. At least not on offense. I was hoping one of the young WRs would step up but I didn't really see it. Part of that is because MLF utilized a game plan that relied heavily on his remaining stalwarts (Jones, Dillon and Cobb) and the O line and defense, although filled with younger guys and guys maybe playing out of position for the most part had guys who had played a few games before. Besides that I do think many of the next men on defense did step up.

Bottom line next man up is the right attitude to have since there really is no other option. However, it is unrealistic to think these guys can come in and provide a level of play the starters have given. Its not an excuse its a fact.

This isn't so much a response to you Easy, just more of a comment on the next man up theory in general and how so many people just expect business as usual when the starters go down.

Again we have no choice. If you you look at the first and second team All Pros as the top 44 players in the league, we had a nearly tenth of that NFL elite missing from the game day active roster last night. Most teams dont even have that many All Pros on their roster.

I had no intention to waive off Tonyan's injury as unimportant, and I am well aware that replacements typically offer a marked decline in capability. But given the hits we have already taken I see no reason to dwell upon Tonyan's likely loss. If you're not a little numb to player injuries at this point you have not been watching this season.

 

[easyk83]

And I would add that while that may be true about the looks Arizona gave them at the goal line, they still tried to run it with Jones. How about use Dillon?

I mean the guy has practically been an automatic first down in short yardage situations.

I dont know if I've ever seen a backer square up one of our backs like Hicks did to Dillon in the backfield and then watched our back still pick up the first down. Dillon did that last night, he's still developing but one of the marks of a great player is whether or not they make the difficult look routine.

 

[rrudolph]

Studs
The defensive line played great.
Dillion and Jones

Duds
Offensive play design and play calling in the red zone. Against the Bears we ran a creative play when we were inside the five yard line. We need more of that. We should have some plays with both Aaron Jones and AJ Dillion on the field together when we are inside the five. They can pound it in with either back, Jones can go in motion, Rodgers can roll out with the D stacked for a run, etc.

 

[AGreen2AJones]

There are what, 5 teams 7-1 in the NFC? A lot of work yet to be done. This could very well be a season of attrition. Whoever is healthiest at the end.

2x 7-1 teams
2x 6-1 teams
1x 5-1 team

But I get what you're saying...a game like tonight proves this will come down to who steps up due to injuries/covid list. Might be a year where the most talented team doesn't sniff the super bowl

 

[pacmaniac]

It looked like Rodgers audibled on at least one of those plays, maybe a couple of them. Maybe they were originally runs.

Pretty sure Dillon was on the sideline for all 4 downs.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

What’s funny is that if Amos was actually on this forum, you really would correct him.

I don't think so. He seems to be a smart guy, can't imagine he would be wrong as much as you are.

BTW nice job of completely ignoring the serious part of my post.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

There are what, 5 teams 7-1 in the NFC? A lot of work yet to be done. This could very well be a season of attrition. Whoever is healthiest at the end.

Only 2 teams are 7-1, the Pack and Cards. The Bucs and Rams are both 6-1.

Pack gets the Rams at home in 2 + weeks. I think that is another key game. Beat them and we have the tie breakers with Cards and Rams and a win against a team that the Bucs lost to (Rams). We also can't look past the Chiefs in 10 days. Will be nice that we have a mini bye and they will be coming off a Monday night game.

 

[El Guapo]

Plus the Packers should have all three of their top WRs back along with potentially Bahktiari, Jaire, and Kevin King.

 

[MadCat]

Second straight win where our offensive receiving weapons were diverse and from multitude of guys.

Winfree showed me way more than I thought I he had. His breaks were incredible at times and made Rodgers keep going his way after a couple bad plays.

Cobb showed he still has some gas in that tank of his.

EQ was impressive to me, his blocking was solid despite the one penalty and his aggressive running style after catch was more running back inspired than receiver.

Deguara showed his YAC ability he brought from Cindy- and sadly we’ll need more of that I’m afraid with Tonyans injury.

This team is quickly earning the best term anyone can use to describe at team - resilient. I’m beginning to believe they just won’t blink first.

This is so key. While I miss Adams out there, we aren’t going to win a Super Bowl with one receiver. The more snaps and targets these guys get, the more much-needed offensive depth we build.

MLF has been masterful with the game plan. Seems all I hear is that defenses focus mainly on shutting down Adams. Obviously that’s not enough. Jones and Dillon are a force, and with contributions from WRs not named Adams, we are becoming more multi-dimensional on offense all the time. Gives us a huge advantage down the stretch and during the playoffs.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

And I would add that while that may be true about the looks Arizona gave them at the goal line, they still tried to run it with Jones. How about use Dillon?

Cause Jones tends to be a better short yardage back. It's fun to marvel at how big AJ Dillon is, but a 40lb difference isn't the key to being able to run through two 300-lb DTs. If anything I don't know why we didn't see more lineups with Jones at WR and Dillon at RB.

 

[XPack]

All studs after that effort! Special shoutout to Def and running game.
No Duds except the play calling in the last drive. 3 passes, ffs!

Stokes got burned for that TD, though!

 

[Schultz]

I hope I am wrong but I think you guys are way too optimistic on when Jaire is coming back.

 

[OldSchool101]

Studs
Dillon - He ran like he wanted to avenge Sunday's fumbles
Campbell-All over the field
Bojorquez-Crazy but he's a weapon as a punter.
Tonyan
Douglas
Preston Smith- No sacks but was constantly in the backfield

Duds
play calling in the red zone. Baffling why you wouldn't pound the rock with Dillon.
Stokes- He got lit up all game. sure looked like a lost rookie tonight.
Gary- He picked a bad time to disappear. Other than a bad facemask, he was not a factor.

Good summary. The only thing I’ll disagree with is Gary. While not his best game, he flushed Kyler multiple times. 1 time he actually caught him at the corner and hit his leg as he threw, causing a key incompletion. He got cheated that should’ve been a QB hit.

Rasul Douglas played great. He gets the game ball imo. I’d sign that kid to an extension before he gets away.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Dud

Amari Rodgers-He was shook early on. Get him off returns, he doesn't look comfortable at all.

I didn't think he looked shaken at all. He fielded all three punts and returned one of them what, 10 yards-ish?

 

[BrokenArrow]

Plus the Packers should have all three of their top WRs back along with potentially Bahktiari, Jaire, and Kevin King.

I guess it can't all be good.

 

[mongoosev]

This is so key. While I miss Adams out there, we aren’t going to win a Super Bowl with one receiver. The more snaps and targets these guys get, the more much-needed offensive depth we build.

MLF has been masterful with the game plan. Seems all I hear is that defenses focus mainly on shutting down Adams. Obviously that’s not enough. Jones and Dillon are a force, and with contributions from WRs not named Adams, we are becoming more multi-dimensional on offense all the time. Gives us a huge advantage down the stretch and during the playoffs.

I gave Rod credit for not giving up on those receivers last night but then again begs the question had Adams been out there would he have given Winfree another try?

 

[mongoosev]

All studs after that effort! Special shoutout to Def and running game.
No Duds except the play calling in the last drive. 3 passes, ffs!

Stokes got burned for that TD, though!

Thought that it was going to be a long night after seeing that play.

 

[Poppa San]

2x 7-1 teams
2x 6-1 teams
1x 5-1 team

But I get what you're saying...a game like tonight proves this will come down to who steps up due to injuries/covid list. Might be a year where the most talented team doesn't sniff the super bowl

Rams & Cards have 2 games remaining vs one loss teams, Dallas & GB have one and TB already gave Dallas their only loss.
GB beat Cards. Cards beat Rams, Rams beat TB, TB beat Cowpukes. btw 2 loss Saints play TB twice and the Cowpukes yet.

 

[swhitset]

Cause Jones tends to be a better short yardage back. It's fun to marvel at how big AJ Dillon is, but a 40lb difference isn't the key to being able to run through two 300-lb DTs. If anything I don't know why we didn't see more lineups with Jones at WR and Dillon at RB.

You keep saying this … but certainly haven’t convinced me… especially after the 3rd down (or was it 4th?) Where Dillon was met squarely by a linebacker full force 2 yards behind the line of scrimmage and he managed to end up with a first down.

 

[XPack]

While I miss Adams out there, we aren’t going to win a Super Bowl with one receiver. The more snaps and targets these guys get, the more much-needed offensive depth we build.

It's not just Adams receiving, but he also draws attention from D which lets other players get open or at best 1v1 matchup's. Certainly is crucial for SB run.

 

[Sanguine camper]

You keep saying this … but certainly haven’t convinced me… especially after the 3rd down (or was it 4th?) Where Dillon was met squarely by a linebacker full force 2 yards behind the line of scrimmage and he managed to end up with a first down.

That was an awesome power run!! The only other RB in the league that makes that play is probably the other huge beast mode, Derrick Henry.

 

[Mondio]

You keep saying this … but certainly haven’t convinced me… especially after the 3rd down (or was it 4th?) Where Dillon was met squarely by a linebacker full force 2 yards behind the line of scrimmage and he managed to end up with a first down.

It was a 4th down play and it was all Dillon and desire baby! I loved it.

 

[JK64]

Not running it on the one-inch line. The running game has been carrying you the whole time. Give it to Jones or Dillon.

This is what the A--holes on sports talk radio here in Boston mentioned. They asked why not run Dillon there. I say, perhaps La Fleur doesn't trust Dillon not to fumble.

They also said Rodgers and La Fleur are D--bags, and La Fleur is a dandy that waxes his eyebrows.

I think, overall La Fleur had a good game plan. Rodgers played pretty well too.
No one is perfect.

 

[JK64]

The highest conversion play in football is the QB sneak and nothing else is even close. Anything within a yard you sneak, and within a foot or so there should be no debate what so ever. This hold particularly true on 4th down. I cringe every time I see any team not sneak it in situations like 4th and less then a yard.

At the time I was thinking try a QB sneak.