Studs n duds Cards

[easyk83]

MLF system uses a TE like him often, but he and Tonyan are not interchangeable. That said we will see him, Dafney and possible if honest Tyler Davis take on the role by committee. We do not have another Tonyan style TE at the moment IMO

I wasnt suggesting he wasw a replacement, just that next man up has been the theme of the season.

 

[Arod2gjdd]

Stud

DEFENSE-Played out of its mind! What a miraculous transformation this unit has undertaken since Week 1. I could never have imagined that the group that exerted zero pressure, played soft coverage, and looked, old, slow, and lost could have morphed into what we saw last night. We may have now have one of the best pass rushes in the league; Murray was running for his life all night. Gary is blossoming, Lowry is playing the best football of his life, Preston looked fast again, Douglass is a gem, the safeties are tackling, and Campbell is the glue that holds it all together. It cannot be overstated how impressive a performance this was.

Dillon-Powerful, quick, and decisive. Good job in pass protection too. The yards after contact (especially on 4th down) were particularly important and impressive.

Jones-Powerful, quick, and decisive. Good job in pass protection too. I would have liked to see a few more quick, easy slants in stride to soften them up for the SLUGGO (which I called was coming) instead of going for it on an early route.

Rodgers's Toughness-Not his greatest game by any stretch, but you must respect the man's toughness in this one. He was utterly blown up on the TD pass to Cobb; not long thereafter, he proceeded to fight through contact and go headfirst towards the end zone, getting flattened coming up just short. His will was on display tonight.

EQ-4th Down was incredibly clutch, we should have went to him more. We can't run a slant or two for some easy completions with that 6'5" frame? Seems obvious. It was also obvious that he was one of the few guys Rodgers felt comfortable going to.

Bojorquez




Dud

Amari Rodgers-He was shook early on. Get him off returns, he doesn't look comfortable at all.


Neman-Man, if he just hits that block on the first quarter screen Jones may still be running

Red Zone Offense-I know we are shorthanded, but can we close a damn game?

 

[easyk83]

I like what Amari potentially brings to the offense but he needs to get his head right, maybe some more jet sweeps and bubble screens. Plays designed to get him the ball and run with it a bit. I like having another RB bodied receiver out there, especially when you have Jones and Dillon on the field at the same time.

 

[gopkrs]

For those talking about the play clock.. ALOT of the issue is the fact these are new guys who don't know how to fukn line up correctly. Deguaria couldn't figure out where to go in goal line formation MULTIPLE TIMES. Winfree was lost on what to do on another timeout the last drive and Rodgers had to burn one.

If you actually paid attention Rodgers was constantly motioning to the sideline to HURRY THE HELL UP with the plays being sent in. They showed him waving his hands numerous times times throughout that drive cause he knew exactly what was happening..... New little used players have no idea where to go

On one of the time outs; Rodgers made Deguara move all the way from the left side to the right. There was not enough time. He should have just let him stay on the left side all by himself. Another time out was just to save 5 yards. I thought he just should have taken the penalty. As it turned out; it was better that Arizona did not have more time.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

On one of the time outs; Rodgers made Deguara move all the way from the left side to the right. There was not enough time. He should have just let him stay on the left side all by himself. Another time out was just to save 5 yards. I thought he just should have taken the penalty. As it turned out; it was better that Arizona did not have more time.

You can't just let a guy line up in the wrong spot...the idea of a play design is to get certain advantages in certain spots on the field and a random guy running around in the wrong spot destroys the entire play design.

 

[Dantés]

Amos doesn't know what he's talking about, him playing all those years with the Bears probably still rubs off on him

On a serious note though, I try to explain it one last time to you. I don't think that having someone else calling the plays is such a huge deal with other coaches on an NFL staff being ready to make it work as well.

Just take a look at the Browns last season as evidence for it. The team was missing their head coach and offensive play caller (aside of some other coaches on that side of the ball) in a playoff game at Pittsburgh and ended up winning the game by scoring 48 points.



Rodgers scrambled to the one-yard line after the delay of game penalty, resulting in the Packers having a fourth down from the 1.

What’s funny is that if Amos was actually on this forum, you really would correct him.

 

[Mondio]

You can't just let a guy line up in the wrong spot...the idea of a play design is to get certain advantages in certain spots on the field and a random guy running around in the wrong spot destroys the entire play design.

I agree, but at that point, knowing where you are, I'd rather he just run under center and try and sneak rather than eat 5 more yards.

 

[swhitset]

It looked like Rodgers audibled on at least one of those plays, maybe a couple of them. Maybe they were originally runs.

except Dillon wasn’t on the field for most of them.

 

[Snoops]

I was shocked how that game went minus the ending where they let the cards drive all the way down the field there defense played really good. I didn’t expect that kind of performance I thought Murray was gonna ABUSE them on the ground. Fwiw that was a good game with all the adversity surrounding them and it should have not went to the ending it did. But man leave Barry at home for now on lol. We are about to get healthy too with bahk back for the chiefs game. Hill and tonyan are out for the year. I would love to see z smith back there it’s been quiet around his status. I hope they make a trade to get even better moving forward. In the end they will have to beat Brady

 

[swhitset]

If Tonyan's gone for the season I guess it's Deguara's time to shine, saw a little bit of him last night and I guess we will see what the perfect MLF TE type can do for us.

first …. he needs to learn the damned offense. According to Rodgers… he lined up in the wrong place causing that delay of game at the goal line.

 

[swhitset]

On one of the time outs; Rodgers made Deguara move all the way from the left side to the right. There was not enough time. He should have just let him stay on the left side all by himself. Another time out was just to save 5 yards. I thought he just should have taken the penalty. As it turned out; it was better that Arizona did not have more time.

He couldn’t do that because as Rodgers explained … that play was supposed to be play action with a designed rollout to the right with Deguara being the target in the right corner of the end zone. If they cover him… Rodgers essentially walks in … if they come up… it’s a pass to Deguara… except he blew it.

 

[Arod2gjdd]

Studs
The defense (they are underappreciated)

Not after last night; everyone is on notice.

 

[tynimiller]

Second straight win where our offensive receiving weapons were diverse and from multitude of guys.

Winfree showed me way more than I thought I he had. His breaks were incredible at times and made Rodgers keep going his way after a couple bad plays.

Cobb showed he still has some gas in that tank of his.

EQ was impressive to me, his blocking was solid despite the one penalty and his aggressive running style after catch was more running back inspired than receiver.

Deguara showed his YAC ability he brought from Cindy- and sadly we’ll need more of that I’m afraid with Tonyans injury.

This team is quickly earning the best term anyone can use to describe at team - resilient. I’m beginning to believe they just won’t blink first.

 

[Arod2gjdd]

Duds

MLF and time management. Red Zone offense management.

Studs AJ GREEN! Dilion, Jones, Cobb!

With all due respect, how do you not even mention the D? This game belonged to the defense, first and foremost.

 

[tynimiller]

With all due respect, how do you not even mention the D? This game belonged to the defense, first and foremost.

There are a lot of folks that have said Lowry has had one good game, that Gary and Preston have not performed….honestly many have no deciphering ability to grade what they see defensively unless it is sacks or turnovers solely.

I also wonder if Zartan didn’t list because it wasn’t one or two guys it was the whole unit perhaps.

 

[Arod2gjdd]

Where did all the emotes go? Like doesn't cover every response...

Edit: Thanks, I liked the old ones though (optimistic, etc.)

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Great game, great win, great Team effort.

As most have pointed out, Rodgers and MLF need to clean up play clock management and the red zone play calling.

There was at least 1, if not 2 plays that the play clock ran down to zero due to receivers not knowing where to line up. That is on them and a bit understandable with the players in. Now the other ones, those were on MLF and Rodgers. I mainly blame Rodgers since he ultimately controls when they break the huddle and when the ball is snapped. Sometimes I think he tries to be too precise with running off as much clock as he can and it bites him.

As far as the red zone. Feels like MLF is going with scripted plays, instead of looking at what the offense has been doing well against this particular defense and calling plays based on that. Dillon was running over guys last night and MLF should have keyed off of that. Put Dillon and Jones in the backfield and make the defense have to guess who is getting it. They did that once I believe on 4th down, Dillon easily plowed through for it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

There are a lot of folks that have said Lowry has had one good game, that Gary and Preston have not performed….honestly many have no deciphering ability to grade what they see defensively unless it is sacks or turnovers solely.

I also wonder if Zartan didn’t list because it wasn’t one or two guys it was the whole unit perhaps.

Someone lit a fire under Lowery, he has been playing much better this season. Gary does a lot that doesn't show up in the stats, loving where his game is headed. Preston got smoked on a Murry fake handoff and run (right around Smith), but other than that, thought he played well. Whitney M seemed to be invisible last night, he see him in the ststs, but don't even remember him out there.

 

[sschind]

I wasnt suggesting he wasw a replacement, just that next man up has been the theme of the season.

Next man up is fine if the next man has similar abilities but they are the next men for a reason. A different skill set might necessitate a change of game plan to best utilize them but that in itself can lessen the effectiveness of the offense. Honestly I didn't see much of the next man up last night. At least not on offense. I was hoping one of the young WRs would step up but I didn't really see it. Part of that is because MLF utilized a game plan that relied heavily on his remaining stalwarts (Jones, Dillon and Cobb) and the O line and defense, although filled with younger guys and guys maybe playing out of position for the most part had guys who had played a few games before. Besides that I do think many of the next men on defense did step up.

Bottom line next man up is the right attitude to have since there really is no other option. However, it is unrealistic to think these guys can come in and provide a level of play the starters have given. Its not an excuse its a fact.

This isn't so much a response to you Easy, just more of a comment on the next man up theory in general and how so many people just expect business as usual when the starters go down.

 

[tynimiller]

Someone lit a fire under Lowery, he has been playing much better this season. Gary does a lot that doesn't show up in the stats, loving where his game is headed. Preston got smoked on a Murry fake handoff and run (right around Smith), but other than that, thought he played well. Whitney M seemed to be invisible last night, he see him in the ststs, but don't even remember him out there.

It was clear I though Whitney was in solely to contain and hold that line more than pressure. Be nice if had pushed more but he was solid when needed in the role I think he was focused on

 

[PackAttack12]

This isn't hyperbole, and this isn't an overreaction...

Quite frankly, this team is made of championship level stuff.

 

[swhitset]

He was turning -1 into +4.

The only thing I can imagine is that they don’t trust his ball security or they think using him there telegraphs the play.

Yeah Lefleur mentioned that the Cards were putting in their super Jumbo package “daring the Packers to pass”… I would have liked the Packers to respond by pulling all the receivers… and respond in kind… and give Dillon a chance to pound it right at them…. at least once.

 

[tynimiller]

Yeah Lefleur mentioned that the Cards were putting in their super Jumbo package “daring the Packers to pass”… I would have liked the Packers to respond by pulling all the receivers… and respond in kind… and give Dillon a chance to pound it right at them…. at least once.

Put in three TEs and ram Dillon at them. I’ll take our jumbo package with Dillon over anyone

 

[Schultz]

There are what, 5 teams 7-1 in the NFC? A lot of work yet to be done. This could very well be a season of attrition. Whoever is healthiest at the end.

 

[Arod2gjdd]

Flat wrong. Gary and Preston, honestly the front was incredible. Disruptive at times to a level I hadn’t seen and lane discipline was incredible.

Agreed. I have no idea how anyone can describe Gary as a nonfactor. This game belonged to the D-Line, which is hard to believe after Week 1.