Breaking Down the NFC North, 2024

[XPack]

Once we beat the Lions, this will be blown wide open.

 

[milani]

I bet there are still people out there arguing that the fake refs made the right call.

They did not understand the actual rule and simply thought the ball slipped through our players hands into theirs.

 

[OldSchool101]

Seems we caught the Rams at the right time. This is more evidence to submit that when you get a dynamic WR back (or 2) at a needed position it really impacts the entire flow of the game.
Vice Versa. You lose a big time playmaker (or 2) during the season and it can adversely impact the game flow.

Health and Depth do come into play. I like ours in GB. I think we’re above average depth at many positions. RB, WR, OL, QB, Safety, LB to name a few.

 

[Magooch]

Obvious missed facemask, but tbh to me it looked like Fiske was being held by Quessenberry in the end zone, too… which is also of course a safety and was missed as well. Best-case scenario you’d have offsetting IMO

 

[OldSchool101]

I think the bulk of those that watched that game last night would agree that the Rams were the better team. No one in their right mind would’ve put their $$ on MN on even terms IF the face mask held.
The Rams dominated the Vikings D as the game wore on. LA controlled the bulk of the clock for all Quarters and were 13 yards from a 400 yard performance. They put up 26 1st Downs to the Vikings 19 and also led in score for the majority (all that with the Vikings getting the ball first)
The Vikings played ok. However considering they led in Turnover ratio +1 and only scored 20 points tells a story. The Rams deserved to Win, would’ve won in OT and did win a Regulation.
The first half was even but favored LA in Time of Possession and Production. The entire feel of the second half was all LA and no Facemask was going to change that.

 

[OldSchool101]

NFC North Question:

If we beat Detroit in 2 weeks and let’s say we all have identical records after the following bye week.
Would GB be in 1st place?

I ask that because yes at first glance you’d say “we lost to MN”
However IF we beat the Lions and the Detroit beat MN, the Vikings can’t leap frog the Lions right?

 

[milani]

Seems we caught the Rams at the right time. This is more evidence to submit that when you get a dynamic WR back (or 2) at a needed position it really impacts the entire flow of the game.
Vice Versa. You lose a big time playmaker (or 2) during the season and it can adversely impact the game flow.

Health and Depth do come into play. I like ours in GB. I think we’re above average depth at many positions. RB, WR, OL, QB, Safety, LB to name a few.

Last year we caught them at the right time as well. Stafford was out.

 

[OldSchool101]

Last year we caught them at the right time as well. Stafford was out.

Yes. It was a rematch of the MWC battles. Rypien vs Love.
(Tied records in 2018 for 1st Place, but tiebreaker went head to head Boise State (due to a better Run game))

Boise State 33-24 Utah State (Nov 24, 2018) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Boise State Broncos vs. Utah State Aggies NCAAF game from November 24, 2018 on ESPN. Includes all passing, rushing and receiving stats.

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[rmontro]

They did not understand the actual rule and simply thought the ball slipped through our players hands into theirs.

I seem to recall they argued "simultaneous possession" going to the receiver. But my memory is our guy catching the ball, and Golden Tate putting a finger on it. And this was after Tate had committed pass interference on Sam Shields.

 

[Magooch]

Darrisaw is going to be out for the rest of the year. Huge loss for them - he is excellent and their current backup is awful.

 

[OldSchool101]

Darrisaw is going to be out for the rest of the year. Huge loss for them - he is excellent and their current backup is awful.

Oh wow. I saw him get rolled up on towards the end of the game.
Thats a tough loss.
Darrisaw ranked top #9/#8 Run grade and pass grade in the NFL. He is currently the highest graded OL on the Vikings. Not to mention he just signed a massive $contract$ with $77M guaranteed $28M annual (reminds me of us losing Bak)

Definitely the biggest news in the North this week.

 

[milani]

I seem to recall they argued "simultaneous possession" going to the receiver. But my memory is our guy catching the ball, and Golden Tate putting a finger on it. And this was after Tate had committed pass interference on Sam Shields.

It was determined that our player had made the INT in a crowd and instantaneously was grabbed and swarmed by Tate and as they went to the ground he got to the ball. You saw the initial ref giving the clock stop signal as they went down. Unlike a play in the middle of the field the play is dead immediately upon possession whether it be an INT or a TD. Our player was the first to possess it and Tate could not gain simultaneous possession nor steal the ball at any point. They did not know the rule. If this had happened at the 50 yard line Tate could have stolen the ball or mimicked simultaneous possession. Our player did not have to maintain possession going to the ground because his forward or backward motion was technically stopped while on his feet. It was too fast for those amateur refs. The ref that called it even apologized the next day.

 

[PikeBadger]

Darrisaw is going to be out for the rest of the year. Huge loss for them - he is excellent and their current backup is awful.

One more time ....... Tango Sierra

 

[sschind]

One more time ....... Tango Sierra

Talia Shire? What's she got to do with anything.


I'm not even sure who she is. Its just the first thing with the initials TS that popped into my head. She was Rocky's wife right.

 

[Firethorn1001]

NFC North Question:

If we beat Detroit in 2 weeks and let’s say we all have identical records after the following bye week.
Would GB be in 1st place?

Played around with playoff machine simulators.

There exists a scenario that all teams are 7-2 after week 10. Amongst Det/MN/Packers, think they are all 1-1 in division at that point so, amongst common games it is Det/GB/MN. However... Chicago has played no division games so their winning percentage for division games is technically 0, but really it hasn't been established since they have played no games. Playoff machines I think it just views it as .000 so, Chicago is in last due to that oddity. (If you were a Bears fan and wanted to argue that you were in 1st since you were technically 'undefeated' guess I could buy that)

I think in this scenario, week 11 GB v CHI would be for 1st place and you could find the 4 teams at 8-2/8-2/8-2/7-3... I think the best records in the division at the end of the season would be 3 teams at 13-4 and 1 at 12-5 (assuming all teams win all the other games and then essentially split division games. I think 1 needs to be 12-5 given I think there is an odd # of division games remaining.

Yes.. I was bored and curious this morning.

 

[Poppa San]

If teams are going to lose on a missed call I can't think of a better one for it to happen to.

the Chiefs get my vote.

She was Rocky's wife right.

She was hot in the later movies. They hid it well with her mousy attire in the first one.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Talia Shire? What's she got to do with anything.


I'm not even sure who she is. Its just the first thing with the initials TS that popped into my head. She was Rocky's wife right.

I never realized she played quarterback. But with the Vikings, I guess anything's possible!

 

[milani]

Talia Shire? What's she got to do with anything.


I'm not even sure who she is. Its just the first thing with the initials TS that popped into my head. She was Rocky's wife right.

Talia played Connie Corleone in the Godfather movies. She was the sister I believe of the director of those films.

 

[DoURant]

Holy $#%&! Bears Down!

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[Firethorn1001]

Oh. My. God.

You can pinpoint the second their heart rips in half

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[milani]

Oh. My. God.

You can pinpoint the second their heart rips in half

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I thought Rodgers plays for the Jets.

 

[Zad Fnark]

Was great watching Chicago lose in the last 5 seconds after a Hail Mary.

I couldn't stop laughing.

 

[DoURant]

Da Bears snatch defeat, from the jaws of victory.

 

[milani]

Was great watching Chicago lose in the last 5 seconds after a Hail Mary.

I couldn't stop laughing.

Could have sworn Rodgers plays for the Jets.

 

[coulomb]

Was great watching Chicago lose in the last 5 seconds after a Hail Mary.

I couldn't stop laughing.

Ditto, was a priceless moment.