Breaking Down the NFC North, 2024

[milani]

Ditto, was a priceless moment.

Horrible way to lose a game. And fumbling at the opponent's 1 yard line late in the 4th quarter does not help.

 

[shockerx]

I think Love been nagged by the knee more than we know, and now with the dreaded tricky groin injury. It's time to sit him for at least 3 weeks...
For the Pack to have a shot down the stretch JL has to be near his best. Let the Lions game play out without Love and possibly E. Wiliams and JA. Use the bye and make the pack heathy again.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

I'd be more worried about Detroits 50 burger today but.......
This happens when your coach is a shoe salesman and your starting SS and NB stay in Chi.
If one of those guys is there......shoulda,woulda,coulda.... but didn't.
They deserve to be laughed at......

 

[tynimiller]

I ain't laughing....even a broken-rib banged up Daniels I say is SPECIAL and this game confirmed Bear's defense is very solid.

 

[DoURant]

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[rmontro]

I was watching the end of that Bears game, that was crazy.

 

[Thirteen Below]

How many of you have seen this?

Chicago cornerback Tyrique Stevenson so busy trashtalking with Washingfton fans at the goal line (with his back to the field) that he doesn't realize the ball has been snapped and the hail mary play is unfolding behind him.

Receivers and defenders from both teams are racing down the field, and he has no idea they're there until they start to bunch up at the goal line 30 yards behind him. Commander fans are taunting him, telling him to turn around, and when he finally does he spins around and races over to the scrum - getting there just in time to be the guy who tips the ball into Noah Brown's hands.

I just don't. Have. Words.

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It's even better on "All 22". Or should I say, "All 21".

 

[sschind]

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Most of the time I'm not too impressed with these songs but this one was really good.

 

[milani]

I was watching the end of that Bears game, that was crazy.

Horrible way to lose a game. Washington is 6-2. So they could be a wild card contender battling for a spot like us.

 

[Magooch]

How many of you have seen this?

Chicago cornerback Tyrique Stevenson so busy trashtalking with Washingfton fans at the goal line (with his back to the field) that he doesn't realize the ball has been snapped and the hail mary play is unfolding behind him.

Receivers and defenders from both teams are racing down the field, and he has no idea they're there until they start to bunch up at the goal line 30 yards behind him. Commander fans are taunting him, telling him to turn around, and when he finally does he spins around and races over to the scrum - getting there just in time to be the guy who tips the ball into Noah Brown's hands.

I saw some other angles suggesting it was bears fans in the crowd telling him to get over there

I also read from a few bears bear writers that apparently he is the guy who was supposed to be tracking with Brown in the first place. Can’t confirm myself but that’s the word at least.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

He was.
What's inexcusable is Eberflus not holding him accountable.
Also saying that giving up the 13-15 yards
The play before the HailMary wasn't a big deal and didn't matter?!?!??
Mike Greenburg from ESPN said that "that was one of the five dumbest things he's ever heard in his life football related or otherwise".....that's not a good sign. Somebody gotta go......

For me...Flus is going to have to win the SuperBowl to keep his job. Anything less....you see what it's going to cost to get Ben Johnson from Detroit and you make it happen.
Detroit wasted years with Matt Stafford. I don't want the Bears to waste years with Caleb.

 

[Thirteen Below]

What's inexcusable is Eberflus not holding him accountable.

I won't rub it in when you're down, but I will point out that that's one of the things I've been saying all year. One of the things that saved Eberflus' *** last year was that he was so popular with his players; they all loved playing for him. That's not necessarily always a good trait in a coach - it's the coaches that players fear who win clutch games

Also saying that giving up the 13-15 yards
The play before the HailMary wasn't a big deal and didn't matter?!?!??

And that goes to another point I've made a number of times, and other posters here - the guy is slow-witted. If the Bears defend that previous sideline play, there is no Hail Mary. It simply never happens. The clock runs out while Washington throws a 20-yard pass to midfield.

Or if they just let the Washingtons set up for the hail mary and then call an immediate time out when you see their set - go over it with your team, calm them down, get them focused, make whatever personnel adjustments you need to make in order to match up their package... make sure everyone knows their assignment and their responsibilities, which I'm thinking probably would not have included standing at the sideline trashtalking drunken fans while the play was underway.

Eberflus had 3 timeouts in his pocket, when did he think he was going to use them? Was he hoping to turn them in for a deposit after the game?

I can hardly count the number of utterly foolish decisions he and his staff made yesterday; it was like he just had no awareness of what was happening in the game and what he needed to do about it. He just was totally absent. This article does a much better job of explaining it than I can; it's a great article.

It Wasn't Only the Hail Mary - The Bears Last TWO Plays Were Bad and Flus' Explanation is Even Worse - Bleacher Nation

A day later, and the Bears last-second loss to the Commanders doesn't feel any better.

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For me...Flus is going to have to win the SuperBowl to keep his job.

A couple more games like that, and he may not last through December.

Ryan Poles' staff probably had their boss on suicide watch all day Monday - Poles has gambled everything on Eberflus; the Bears have the hardest schedule in the NFL over the next 10 games, and they may not even break .500. If they collapse (after all the Caleb Williams hype, and 3 years of questionable trades, free agents, and draft choices), he probably can't survive.

That game Sunday is one of the worst-coached NFL games I've ever seen, and keep in mind I watched every game coached by Phil Bengtson, Dan Devine, Lindy Infante, Forrest Gregg, Bart Starr (god bless him), Mike Sherman, and Ray Rhodes. Not to mention about 20 years of terrible Vikings coaches when I lived in the Twin Cities. Eberflus is a disgrace to your organization; as much as I dislike the Bears, I'm the first to say y'all deserve better than this.

Detroit wasted years with Matt Stafford. I don't want the Bears to waste years with Caleb.

I agree, and that's a shame. Because I'm really getting to like Williams, fingernail polish and all. And I did not expect to ever say that.

I think he has the potential to be a very good quarterback; he still has a lot of rough spots, but I admire the hell out of him for his toughness. But Poles, Eberflus, and that offensive line have put him in a very bad situation, and it'd be a crime if they end up ruining his career the way they did to Fields and probably Trubitsky, and the way other teams have pissed away Andrew Luck, David Carr, and many others. He probably wakes up a dozen times a night these days, screaming in terror, dreaming he's being trampled by a herd of bufalo.

Fields was a really nice kid, and Williams seems to be too. I can't bring myself to wish for the Bears to succeed, but I do at least hope they don't destroy him like they did Fields. But it's starting to look like you have another couple of years of revolving-door coaches and maybe even GMs before your organization figures it out.

 

[tynimiller]

I won't rub it in when you're down, but I will point out that that's one of the things I've been saying all year. One of the things that saved Eberflus' *** last year was that he was so popular with his players; they all loved playing for him. That's not necessarily always a good trait in a coach - it's the coaches that players fear who win clutch games

Disagree with this as a definitive statement whole heartedly. MANY coaches won because their players respected them as much or far far more than they feared them.

Tony Dungy is perhaps the best example but Doug Pederson...shoot Andy Reid...Jay Wright, Dabo Swinney, Mike Kryzewsk, Tom Coughlin...all come to mind of coaches who didn't build success out of fear.

Yes, it is a strategy a TON of coaches do, and some have immense success with. It is not THE way to win clutch games.

 

[gopkrs]

I don't know if anyone said this but having basically a two man rush on that last play was stupid. Lord save me from 3 man rushes when the chips are down.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

With Flus..... The guy is an amazing defensive mind. He's great but so was Vic Fangio. Lovie Smith....defensive genius.

I like Flus but there have been 5 games in 2 years in the 4th quarter w/ Bears having a 95% win calculation with the time left. Yesterday was 99% FFS!!!!!

He's not a big moment coach. Sometimes you can depend on your players to cover up these deficiencies and in a way I'm kind of glad we lost because it glaringly shows his. And we need him unfortunately to do bad enough to get fired so we can hire Ben Johnson.

The Bears are serious about winning Super Bowl Caleb, his rookie window. They need to fire and higher Ben Johnson. It's a simple as that.

 

[tynimiller]

With Flus..... The guy is an amazing defensive mind. He's great but so was Vic Fangio. Lovie Smith....defensive genius.

I like Flus but there have been 5 games in 2 years in the 4th quarter w/ Bears having a 95% win calculation with the time left. Yesterday was 99% FFS!!!!!

He's not a big moment coach. Sometimes you can depend on your players to cover up these deficiencies and in a way I'm kind of glad we lost because it glaringly shows his. And we need him unfortunately to do bad enough to get fired so we can hire Ben Johnson.

The Bears are serious about winning Super Bowl Caleb, his rookie window. They need to fire and higher Ben Johnson. It's a simple as that.

First things first Tyrique Stephenson needs put on one week suspension or booted if I'm the Bears....utterly unacceptable.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

I'm thinking of starting a YouTube channel where I'm an illegitimate great grandson of Halas and bc I threw a guy out of the box(literally threw over railing and down 100 feet. It was only the sheer girth of the Chicago faithful fans that saved his life) during the infamous Marion Barber running out of bounds game....
But grandma says I'm better now and first game back was Sunday!!!!

 

[Calebs Revenge]

Tyrique would had to have bought a commercial ticket home.
No way he gets on my "team" plane.
Throw his shiite luggage out too!!!!!
Sits for first half of next game. If we're winning at half and dude is playing good he sits whole game....
Absolutely inexcusable. If I thought Flus be around for a couple more years I'd want him to make example of Tyrique but T gonna be here long after Flus gone.

 

[Magooch]

I do wonder if ownership isn’t a bit apprehensive about a guy like Ben Johnson. He was reportedly asking for 15m+ per year last year for any teams interested in him as a head coach. Eberflus is making 4-5m.

In fact it was reported that Johnson was interested in the Bears last season. Makes me think either they are/were REALLY convinced by Eberflus, or were scared off by the price tag…

 

[Thirteen Below]

In fact it was reported that Johnson was interested in the Bears last season. Makes me think either they are/were REALLY convinced by Eberflus, or were scared off by the price tag…

I would suspect they're somewhat less enthusiastic about Eberflus at this point than they may have been 6 or 7 months ago, and the idea of a talented team with a future franchise quarterback and a payroll of $250,000,000 sitting on their ***** in their living rooms the entire month of January while teams with better coaches play playoff games may make them think twice about how important it is to save a few million dollars on coaching.

 

[El Guapo]

Disagree with this as a definitive statement whole heartedly. MANY coaches won because their players respected them as much or far far more than they feared them.

...shoot Andy Reid...

Andy Reid at this point is the poster child. The players love him and it works. Like many aspects of life, it is rare that one way or the other is right. It's blending philosophies the right way.

 

[tynimiller]

Andy Reid at this point is the poster child. The players love him and it works. Like many aspects of life, it is rare that one way or the other is right. It's blending philosophies the right way.

Yup and having the right athletes as pupils. Any coaching approach can work so long as you have the right pupils for it.

 

[milani]

Yup and having the right athletes as pupils. Any coaching approach can work so long as you have the right pupils for it.

When he came to KC he took over a very sub par team.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

Just like Bellichik....Reid got his QB and never looked back.
Read was always a good coach in Philly, but couldn't get over the hump and Bill Belichick was less than stellar in his time in Cleveland

 

[Half Empty]

When he came to KC he took over a very sub par team.

And turned it around immediately. Right pupils?