Vikings studs and Duds official

[906Fan]

I love when someone twists my words to create a strawman argument. I said the rule is horrible and needs to be changed. I still maintain that the refs called it on both sides. Im sure it stings but relax, you tied a game that most expected you to lose and your Qb remained healthy.

There’s far too much Viqueen in this thread, if I wanted to read this garbage I’d look through Reddit’s comments.

 

[OldSchool101]

We were lucky to walk away with a Tie. Once again, Cousins showed He’s a very good QB, he’s not lucky he does that stuff quite often. He just doesn’t get much recognition and that makes him even more dangerous. Ad to that this MN Defense is still dangerous.
I’m pleased the way we went out and battled against a playoff caliber team. Especially #12 he gets kudos for that effort, he was banged up, tossed down and just kept ticking.
Good game to the Vikings that’s the way football should be and this sets the stage for our second meeting being a doozy.

 

[longtimefan]

There rarely is any more in the first 2 weeks. ATM, Tampa looks to be unstoppable but who expects them to be there in December? Dominant teams establish themselves during weeks 5-12.

Finally... Someone understands..

But would say week 4 is the start

 

[rodell330]

Idk how any one can consider the defense as “studs” these dudes did enough to lose the game. They played one god half of football.

 

[rodell330]

Unbelievable - this is why the Vikings have never won a Super Bowl.

Who sent you?

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

THIS! I saw it in the Shoutbox after Haha's pick. "Here comes the 3 run calls and FG. God MM is so predictable." I would rather have MM go for the killshot than to be conservative.

Here's the question I have, If MM had run the ball 3 times there and Minnesota had still scored a TD afterwards, what would people be saying right now?

I didn't really have too much of an issue with that series, but I thought he should have called PA on the one right before it where Williams got stuffed and we got our 26 right before the Ha Ha int.

Now that zone read as I called on 2nd and short in OT, not smart. Not when Rodgers is gimpy.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

For a league trying so hard to neuter the game to ensure the best players are available to deliver the best pruduct.... that was a garbage product they delivered today out of Lambeau. Between officiating and a tie, just garbage.

So does this mean the forum will stop heaping praise on Roger Goodell's head now?

 

[Poppa San]

I love when someone twists my words to create a strawman argument. I said the rule is horrible and needs to be changed. I still maintain that the refs called it on both sides. Im sure it stings but relax, you tied a game that most expected you to lose and your Qb remained healthy.

Yeah, the refs may have called it, doesn't mean they were identical plays.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

We were lucky to walk away with a Tie. Once again, Cousins showed He’s a very good QB, he’s not lucky he does that stuff quite often. He just doesn’t get much recognition and that makes him even more dangerous. Ad to that this MN Defense is still dangerous.
I’m pleased the way we went out and battled against a playoff caliber team. Especially #12 he gets kudos for that effort, he was banged up, tossed down and just kept ticking.
Good game to the Vikings that’s the way football should be and this sets the stage for our second meeting being a doozy.

Actually, not until the last possession of OT for the Vikings, would I say "we were lucky to walk away with a tie".....the rest of the game was "The Vikings kept catching breaks to either get back in the game or to be in OT with a potential winning kick." So ultimately, the Vikings were lucky as hell to get a tie.

Had this game been a playoff game and the Packers lost, this place would be going absolutely bananas with how the Refs and the Packers handed the game to the Vikings. Actually, it reminded me a bit of the meltdown in the NFCCG in Seattle + the Fail Mary Game, wrapped into one painful game.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned. While it was a tough play to make Clark should have been able to hang on to the ball, possibly clinching the win intercepting Cousins deep in Vikings terriority right before Diggs burned House and Brice for a 75-yard touchdown.

Nothing has changed with this defense. Capers is having the last laugh.

The defense has definitely improved over the past few seasons. The lack of a decent free safety might end up being costly though.

Run the ball twice to burn their TOs. They took 1:15 on their final drive to tie. Clock probably would have run out on them if they had no timeouts.

I'm absolutely convinced you were one of those fans criticizing McCarthy for being too conservative running the ball to burn clock during the NFCCG at Seattle in 2014.

Stud: Packer beat writers, who are now going to save a ton of time around the holidays this year not having to research and explain complicated tiebreaker scenarios.

There's a chance the Packers and Vikings play to a tie in Minnesota as well

I love when someone twists my words to create a strawman argument. I said the rule is horrible and needs to be changed.

Matthews' hit on Cousins shouldn't have been a penalty even with the current rules in place protecting quarterbacks. There's no doubt it was a terrible call.

Idk how any one can consider the defense as “studs” these dudes did enough to lose the game. They played one god half of football.

The defense played great for three quarters.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned. While it was a tough play to make Clark should have been able to hang on to the ball, possibly clinching the win intercepting Cousins deep in Vikings terriority right before Diggs burned House and Brice for a 75-yard touchdown.

Wilkerson had a chance at one as well.

While some people are blaming the defense for this tie, I will put it squarely on the refs and then the Packer offense. Yes, the defense missed a few opportunities to seal the game up and gave up a few passes they shouldn't have, but the Packer defense is vastly improved from what we have seen the last several seasons. In my mind the weakest link on the defense right now is Brice.

 

[thisisnate]

So does this mean the forum will stop heaping praise on Roger Goodell's head now?

Sarcasm, right? I don't recall ever seeing anyone heap praise on Goodell lol. Eew.

 

[yooperpackfan]

What should he have done diff

Better clock management would have gone a long way towards a win but even that might have not been enough to overcome the pathetic officiating.
I really hope that the Packers file a complaint against that officiating crew with the NFL. ( I don't know if such a thing is possible)

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I really hope that the Packers file a complaint against that officiating crew with the NFL. ( I don't know if such a thing is possible)

I highly doubt the Packers would benefit from filing a complain against the officiating crew. With the league only having 17 different ones they won't be able to discipline any of them.

 

[RepStar15]

For those of us that actually watched the game...

Studs- Aaron Rodgers picking apart one of the best defenses in the league
Geronimo Allison
Jaire Alexander
Josh jackson
Reggie Gilbert
Kenny Clark
JK Scott
Mason Crosby
CM3

Duds-
Davon House
Kentrall Brice
Justin Mccrae
Play calling to throw the ball on 3rd down in the red zone towards the end of the game
The red that threw the roughing the passer flag

Those of you saying CM3 needs to go, he played fantastic this entire game and was penalized for a BS call. I had no expectations of us winning this game with an injured QB and the team looked good all around. If the offense can put up 22 points against the best defense in the league with an injured QB, what can they do with a healthy one?

 

[bigbubbatd]

I love when someone twists my words to create a strawman argument. I said the rule is horrible and needs to be changed. I still maintain that the refs called it on both sides. Im sure it stings but relax, you tied a game that most expected you to lose and your Qb remained healthy.

I am not sure what strawman you are talking about. I am pretty relaxed. Had a great afternoon and night with my family after the game. Thanks for caring about me though

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Stud - Diggs

Dud - Carlson

Blair Walsh 2.0

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Those of you saying CM3 needs to go, he played fantastic this entire game and was penalized for a BS call.

Matthews was definitely improved over his performance in week 1 but it's a reach to consider it a fantastic one.

 

[RepStar15]

Matthews was definitely improved over his performance in week 1 but it's a reach to consider it a fantastic one.

I am the biggest hater of CM3 there is and have been since the NFC championship game against Seattle. But to say he was a dud in this game was simply not true. Calling him fantastic may be an exaggeration for sure. But he repeatedly got pressure on Cousins, and just because his stat line did not reflect it, he was significant in that game. Just wanted to make a point that so many of the people that reply to this thread do not even watch the game. If they had, CM3 would not have been on the Dud list. Though he surely was not on my stud list and was on my dud list last week, he did not belong there this week.

 

[bigbubbatd]

Did anyone catch earlier in the game when one of the announcers said Brice was becoming one of the best safeties in the league. That comment alone should put the announcers in the dud category.

 

[rodell330]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned. While it was a tough play to make Clark should have been able to hang on to the ball, possibly clinching the win intercepting Cousins deep in Vikings terriority right before Diggs burned House and Brice for a 75-yard touchdown.



The defense has definitely improved over the past few seasons. The lack of a decent free safety might end up being costly though.



I'm absolutely convinced you were one of those fans criticizing McCarthy for being too conservative running the ball to burn clock during the NFCCG at Seattle in 2014.



There's a chance the Packers and Vikings play to a tie in Minnesota as well



Matthews' hit on Cousins shouldn't have been a penalty even with the current rules in place protecting quarterbacks. There's no doubt it was a terrible call.



The defense played great for three quarters.

Great fir three quarters? Idk what you were watching?? But I saw a defense play GOOD for one half, and give up big play after big play in the second half.

 

[scotscheese]

i think it was a very average performance by both teams, and neither really deserved to win.

Jaire was most studly for most of the game
the offence generally played well throughout, as did the D though their second half was poorer than the first

AR gets biggest dud, mostly for the wasted timeouts, he needs to realise the hardcount doesn't work as well as it did 3 years ago
thought clay played reasonably well, and was affecting the game efven if he wasn't making the play himself, but after the RTP called against the vikes, he needed to realise that the officials were calling it very softly, as Daniels thought on one play pulling out of the challenge after initial contact with cousins and thinking he had not kept hold of the ball

overall a very strange game to watch

 

[Mondio]

On the topic of hard counts, whether they draw them offsides or not, they work. It keeps them from getting jumps, it makes them be disciplined along the defensive line and in a game where a split second twitch makes a difference, it helps. Part of his game is diagnosing the Defense before it's snapped. MN is very good and not showing a damn thing until the ball is snapped. It's a chess match. While Rodgers is making them be disciplined along the dline, they're making him use every second of the play clock to try and diagnose a defense where they show nothing.

Rodgers has always used a lot of the play clock, i doubt its changing. It's part of what allows him to do what we do. it just so happens MN is pretty good at countering it, but it doesn't mean you just get rid of it. you win some, you lose some, especially against great opponents.

 

[RepStar15]

I am really struggling to understand how Rodgers is placed in the dud category. Look I get we should have ran the football on 3rd down, but Davante dropped that ball in the end zone that would have won that game.

 

[ExpatPacker]

I certainly wouldn't put Rodgers in the dud category, but of all the chances the Packers had to score a TD they only got one. That's disappointing.

What's even more disappointing is that now that the Packers seem to have fixed their CB problem, their safeties look awful.

Neither team was that good.