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[Poppa San]

mods will take care of it.

For a price of course.

nm, you get a mulligan this time.

 

[Starr To Dowler]

I expect him to come out with far more urgency next week, and especially when they find themselves in a situation like this again. It will be a lesson going forward to the entire squad that you can't just sit on a lead, and that every single play matters. Don't take anything for granted. Perhaps this will be a blessing in disguise, and this will incite this team to more urgency collectively.

I agree with much of what you said, but not this. No offense, but I don't understand why anyone would possibly expect either Rodgers or McCarthy to learn anything from games like this. They never have before. 12 years of that bonehead McCarthy, 10 years of an even more stubborn Rodgers, and it's been like this every single week the entire time. Every week, some fans say, "well, the good thing is maybe they'll finally learn a lesson," and I just don't know why anyone would expect that anymore.

This is who they are. This is who they've always been. They're never going to be any different at this point, because this is who they want to be, and neither one of them seem to give a tinker's damn how anyone else thinks they should do things.

 

[sschind]

I fully support the efforts the league is making to protect quarterbacks. I still think the Barr hit on Rodgers last year SHOULD have been flagged as it was unnecessary and a bit late. The game is no fun to watch if the star quarterbacks are too injured to play.

That said, I wouldn't blame the rule change for the Matthews call. It was simply a BAD CALL. The ref blew it big time. Just as they blew the PI calls earlier both by commission and omission.

Protect the QB. But make the correct call, for heaven's sake. Clay didn't do anything even slightly wrong on that tackle.

We may think it shouldn't be a foul but the NFL did and does consider this a foul. They looked at it and they are even sending it around the league with a sticky note that says don't tackle like this. We are going to continue to see calls that we don't think should be called but that won't change the fact that in the NFLs eyes they should be.

IMO that you have GB fans saying the Barr hit should have been a penalty and they are trying to justify the Kendricks call (not you) just goes to show me that had anyone on the vikings made the exact same hit on Rodgers Packers fans would be saying get over it already. Maybe not saying it was a foul but to move on so that's what we need to do. Move on. It sucks but it was a foul and it got called. The sad part is how many essentially identical hits won't be called because the ref just didn't "see it that way"

 

[Starr To Dowler]

We may think it shouldn't be a foul but the NFL did and does consider this a foul. They looked at it and they are even sending it around the league with a sticky note that says don't tackle like this. We are going to continue to see calls that we don't think should be called but that won't change the fact that in the NFLs eyes they should be.

IMO that you have GB fans saying the Barr hit should have been a penalty and they are trying to justify the Kendricks call (not you) just goes to show me that had anyone on the vikings made the exact same hit on Rodgers Packers fans would be saying get over it already. Maybe not saying it was a foul but to move on so that's what we need to do. Move on. It sucks but it was a foul and it got called. The sad part is how many essentially identical hits won't be called because the ref just didn't "see it that way"

And to extend that thought a bit... I know I'm not going to win any popularity points here, but I think this needs to be said sooner or later. To a certain extent, this is what it looks like when chickens come home to roost. That hit on Rodgers last year was a clean shot; I had no problem with it, other than that I didn't like to see it happen to him. But a sizable number of Packer fans went on a rampage over it, and he and McCarthy *****ed about it too, and next thing you know there's a "Rodgers Rule" on the books. And yesterday, that Rodgers Rule cost us a crucial victory. If it hadn't been for the complaining about it, I dunno - we still might have seen the rule passed anyway. But the bottom line is, we got what a lot of us said we wanted, and now here we are.

OK - flame on! I'm ready!!

 

[OldSchool101]

Yeah. We went from one extreme to the other. The Barr hit was a far cry from this one.. Almost at opposite ends of the extreme. But you said it.. we asked for it.. we got it Toyota!

 

[Mondio]

Other than a linebacker hitting a QB, they couldn't hardly be more dissimilar.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Matthews hit was NOT what the "Rodgers Rule" was intended to prevent. The Kendricks hit was a lot closer to what the rule was intended to stop. Kendricks feet clearly lift off the ground to gain leverage and he drove his body into Rodgers chest. Like I just posted in another thread, if the Ref can't clearly see the subtle differences in a split second, send it up to the booth.

 

[Arod2gjdd]

I agree with much of what you said, but not this. No offense, but I don't understand why anyone would possibly expect either Rodgers or McCarthy to learn anything from games like this. They never have before. 12 years of that bonehead McCarthy, 10 years of an even more stubborn Rodgers, and it's been like this every single week the entire time. Every week, some fans say, "well, the good thing is maybe they'll finally learn a lesson," and I just don't know why anyone would expect that anymore.

This is who they are. This is who they've always been. They're never going to be any different at this point, because this is who they want to be, and neither one of them seem to give a tinker's damn how anyone else thinks they should do things.

Time will tell my friend. With MM holding the menu, you are probably right unfortunately. I certainly appreciate the objective response to my objective criticism of Rodgers and the offense.

 

[scotscheese]

Dud: The NFL for having ridiculous OT rules that change every week and for still allowing games to end in a tie.

As kane and boring as soccer is, at least they don't allow it with those kick contests.
In that way it is better.

er proper football games do end in ties, they're called a draw in most football orientated countries, it's only for playoff games that they go to penalty kick shootout

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Great fir three quarters? Idk what you were watching?? But I saw a defense play GOOD for one half, and give up big play after big play in the second half.

The Packers defense played extremely well over the first three quarters as the Vikings had only scored seven points and gained a total of 238 yards at that point.

AR gets biggest dud, mostly for the wasted timeouts, he needs to realise the hardcount doesn't work as well as it did 3 years ago

It's ridiculous to consider Rodgers the biggest dud because he wasted some timeouts.

And through 2 weeks Randall has been a standout at Free Safety in Cleveland.

The Packers should have definitely used Randall as a free safety.

I don’t think we have a safety on the roster that can be that guy. Randall is gone, he could have been that guy imo. The only possibility I see is Josh Jackson.

Jackson has never lined up at safety during any point of his football career.

No offense, but I don't understand why anyone would possibly expect either Rodgers or McCarthy to learn anything from games like this. They never have before. 12 years of that bonehead McCarthy, 10 years of an even more stubborn Rodgers, and it's been like this every single week the entire time.

Yeah, I can't wait for the Packers to finally get rid of McCarthy and Rodgers as the offense has sucked big time since #12 took over as the team's starter