The Jordan Love Era Begins

Will Jordan Love be 3 in a row for the Packers?

  • Yes, he's a FHOF Player

    Votes: 4 5.6%
  • He'll be pro bowl good but not FHOF good

    Votes: 20 27.8%
  • He'll be average

    Votes: 12 16.7%
  • No, he'll be a below average bust

    Votes: 4 5.6%
  • Too early to Tell

    Votes: 32 44.4%

  • Total voters
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Okay, there is a massive difference between a pick being a bust after it vs saying it was a mistake of a pick. There were next to no one that thought that pick wasn't a steal at the time - yes hunt hard enough you'll find some, but he to many was a concensus day 1 pick talent.

Yes you have to include him now....and now that I say that I guess that could also be said about Savage so I'll concede both should have been listed.
I do remember all the hype about Josh Jackson. GB took him in round 2, right? It seemed like a steal. I think he played at Iowa. But I do remember him being a consensus 1st round guy. He never took off.

But the D has, what, like 8 1st round draft picks starting? And yeah that would include Savage. Overall I think Gluten has done a very good job drafting D in the first 2 rounds.

It also seemed like he was saddled with having to take CBs after TT botched so many round 1 and round 2 CBs. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm working from memory and the guys taken were forgettable. I remember Damarious Randall and Quentin Rollins. I think they were TT guys. And the good players were allowed to walk like Casey Hayward and Micah Hyde. There were others. I don't think that's all on Gluten.
 
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I still think it’s a little exaggeration the media uses to hype us as having 8 Day1 picks because these guys are Starters

S, Rudy (rd6)
ILB, Campbell (rd4)
NT, Slaton (rd5)
CB, Rasul (rd3)
OLB, Preston (rd2)
NB, Nixon (undrafted)

That’s really 6 Defensive starters that are NOT Day 1 picks.
I count at best 5-6 Day1 starters
Kenny, Wyatt, Gary, Walker, J’aire, Savage
+ LVN (Rookie Depth)
+ Stokes who could be out for awhile

If everyone was healthy at once, then at best 7 are starters. It’s not a slight on those guys just more bringing it into reality that they are not all suited up or primed up or even playing together. That said if we ever get there, I would like to see Stokes play CB and Rasul pair with Savage at the other Safety spot.
 
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Agree. He had a real good day. Messed up on only 3 or 4 plays that I noticed.
I didn't see that many. Maybe the big overthrow at Musgrave? Musgrave kinda quit on the route a little but it I think it still might have been a little overthrown. Other than that, I didn't see anything else I would really call "messed up." Am I forgetting?

BTW, that second TD to Doubs. Just the recognition that the throw was there impressed me let alone the pinpoint throw he made. Most QBs won't even try that throw but he did with confidence. You don't expect that kind of thing in a guy's official first ever start, aside from maybe Mahomes.
 

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I thought Love did a good job against the Bears. Great? Maybe not, but he did more than enough to win, and that's priority 1.

I thought the team built on their mistakes as the game moved along, and they were starting to play with some confidence, going into the 2nd half. It was a good win, need to move on to Atlanta next week.

As for the Bears, how good of an opponent they were I can't say. They might be horrible, and if that's the case, the high we're getting from beating them should be a little less intense. They sure looked like a team heading for a dismal season.
 
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The bears are terrible however that doesn’t take anything away from the Packers win. If youre a good team youre supposed to handle the bad teams and they did

Love did have a few arrant throws but the one to Musgrave was on the rookie. Love put the ball right where Musgrave was supposed to be. Musgrave didnt adjust his route to the coverage as he should of. That was a td...same with the other deep ball to him, where he fell over but at least he did make the catch

Hopefully Jayden Reed is ok, hurt his knee on a pass that didnt need to be thrown into double coverage. In Loves defense the ball hit Reed squarely in both hands. But at that point in the game, we didnt need a deep shot. Reed looks like a player, that punt return was nice

Just looking at some qb stats....with only Rodgers amd Allen left to play in week one. Love is the leader in passer rating and tied for the lead on tds
 
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Honestly he played clean, when able tossed some big plays, didn’t turn it over….very Rodgers’ esq truthfully
Yeah that's pretty accurate Ty.

I don't know what more could have been expected. 3 TDs, no INTs, no fumbles, Watson out. Sure it's the same ol Bears so much harder tests will come. But a big win is a big win. Hell even Savage played well I think and Van Ness had a sack. Wyatt and Walker played well. The only guy I was disappointed with was Dillon.

Love overthrew a receiver once, I think. If Musgrave could get his feet under him, he'd have scored, maybe twice. (I think Musgrave was taken in by the moment, first NFL game, and being so utterly open. Anyway, it's good to see a GB TE catch a ball that far down field, on a broken play no less.)
 

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Yeah that's pretty accurate Ty.

I don't know what more could have been expected. 3 TDs, no INTs, no fumbles, Watson out. Sure it's the same ol Bears so much harder tests will come. But a big win is a big win. Hell even Savage played well I think and Van Ness had a sack. Wyatt and Walker played well. The only guy I was disappointed with was Dillon.

Love overthrew a receiver once, I think. If Musgrave could get his feet under him, he'd have scored, maybe twice. (I think Musgrave was taken in by the moment, first NFL game, and being so utterly open. Anyway, it's good to see a GB TE catch a ball that far down field, on a broken play no less.)

LVN had a clutch sack, Brooks and Wooden looked great, Reed is special...

What Love and the OL did cannot be overlooked, while the Bears offense still has a running back at QB...their defensive front 7 was a STRONG test.
 

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LVN had a clutch sack, Brooks and Wooden looked great, Reed is special...

What Love and the OL did cannot be overlooked, while the Bears offense still has a running back at QB...their defensive front 7 was a STRONG test.
Good to point out the O line. They played a nearly flawless game. Seemed like Bakhtiari was out there a lot. Tom played well. Myers is the weakest link in that line, and that's the absolute worst you can say about them. As a unit, spectacular.

And yeah, the same for the DL. Wyatt is quickly becoming an impact player. Brooks and Wooden were amazing picks. Clark is Clark and made an amazing change of direction on a screen. I didn't realize just how athletic that guy is for a NT.

They say the games are won at the line. No argument yesterday.
 

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Yeah that's pretty accurate Ty.

I don't know what more could have been expected. 3 TDs, no INTs, no fumbles, Watson out. Sure it's the same ol Bears so much harder tests will come. But a big win is a big win. Hell even Savage played well I think and Van Ness had a sack. Wyatt and Walker played well. The only guy I was disappointed with was Dillon.

Love overthrew a receiver once, I think. If Musgrave could get his feet under him, he'd have scored, maybe twice. (I think Musgrave was taken in by the moment, first NFL game, and being so utterly open. Anyway, it's good to see a GB TE catch a ball that far down field, on a broken play no less.)
The most concerning thing to me was how badly Musgrave seemed to misjudge the flight of the pass. Going to have to see more to see if that's a chronic problem. Love was not perfect in his throwing accuracy but still made some very nice throws in the mid-range areas. Overall I was very pleased with Love's performance and the way he handled the offense.
 

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The most concerning thing to me was how badly Musgrave seemed to misjudge the flight of the pass. Going to have to see more to see if that's a chronic problem. Love was not perfect in his throwing accuracy but still made some very nice throws in the mid-range areas. Overall I was very pleased with Love's performance and the way he handled the offense.
Agree with all. The first time Musgrave got his feet tied up I let it pass. The second time? Well let's hope that was first game nerves. At least he knows how to get open, but he has to stay upright.

And yeah, it seemed the only part of Love's game that needed work yesterday were long passes. I don't think that requires pin point accuracy. A lot is on the receiver as well. Love has to believe that "my guy can beat your guy" when he's throwing long. But overthrows need to be corrected. That's probably more on the QB.

On the plus side, he stayed with his reads pretty well and resisted the urge to take off running. That didn't work so well with Fields. Fields is ok, but looks like he's not a lt solution for da bearz. What else is new? They might have something in that rookie RB, whose name I don't remember.
 

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Good to point out the O line. They played a nearly flawless game. Seemed like Bakhtiari was out there a lot. Tom played well. Myers is the weakest link in that line, and that's the absolute worst you can say about them. As a unit, spectacular.

And yeah, the same for the DL. Wyatt is quickly becoming an impact player. Brooks and Wooden were amazing picks. Clark is Clark and made an amazing change of direction on a screen. I didn't realize just how athletic that guy is for a NT.

They say the games are won at the line. No argument yesterday.
O-line looked like they were in-sync even though the Bears were blowing up the edge plays in the first half which also could be a product of poor WR and TE blocking which could be a problem for the entire season I fear.
 

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The most concerning thing to me was how badly Musgrave seemed to misjudge the flight of the pass. Going to have to see more to see if that's a chronic problem. Love was not perfect in his throwing accuracy but still made some very nice throws in the mid-range areas. Overall I was very pleased with Love's performance and the way he handled the offense.

The young kid, if speaking to the wide one down the sideline, did the cardinal sin of a receiver and back pedaled for adjusting. He was so open and was an awkward toss he thought way too much and that can get ya sometimes.
 

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We need to be better on first and second downs, can’t expect to be that good on 3and9 game after game. Offense looked good, Watson will help a lot. I was very impressed with Reed. Defense is looking good, Wyatt and crew along with the edge will be great, I’m guessing they had to be extra careful with Fields, some of the slower QB’s better have good lines. Just good to get a win first, you know the pressure in Chi is crazy today.
 

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O-line looked like they were in-sync even though the Bears were blowing up the edge plays in the first half which also could be a product of poor WR and TE blocking which could be a problem for the entire season I fear.
Good point. The TEs and WRs are all so young. Some will learn to block, others, like Watson and Reed, will be pure receivers. The absence of Lewis and Lazard in the blocking game were noticeable. The price of change.

I don't know about you, but it felt like someone sneaked in the Packer dorm and stole all the players from last year and replaced em with new guys. OK that's an overstatement, but Gluten certainly went all in on the youth movement, and he made some damn good personnel moves. I really thought he'd play it safe and keep Lewis and Crosby, but he was committed to change. Good for him, especially because it turned out so well - at least for yesterday!
 

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We need to be better on first and second downs, can’t expect to be that good on 3and9 game after game. Offense looked good, Watson will help a lot. I was very impressed with Reed. Defense is looking good, Wyatt and crew along with the edge will be great, I’m guessing they had to be extra careful with Fields, some of the slower QB’s better have good lines. Just good to get a win first, you know the pressure in Chi is crazy today.
Van Ness played Fields brilliantly in his sack. He resisted the urge to go straight at him and instead mirrored his run. Veteran move.

Alexander on the other hand blew an untouched corner blitz. He should have slowed a little as he got close to Fields. Fields simply juked him up close and Alexander was grabbing at air. But that's nit picking. 4 sacks against Fields is not easy.
 

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We need to be better on first and second downs, can’t expect to be that good on 3and9 game after game. Offense looked good, Watson will help a lot. I was very impressed with Reed. Defense is looking good, Wyatt and crew along with the edge will be great, I’m guessing they had to be extra careful with Fields, some of the slower QB’s better have good lines. Just good to get a win first, you know the pressure in Chi is crazy today.
ah yes. The already suspect state of offensive lines in many NFL cities is going to derail many teams this year. It got worse yesterday as two teams each had 2 starters go down to injuries yesterday. We may indeed end up seeing a pre trading deadline trade of one of our backup o-linemen.
 

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The most concerning thing to me was how badly Musgrave seemed to misjudge the flight of the pass. Going to have to see more to see if that's a chronic problem. Love was not perfect in his throwing accuracy but still made some very nice throws in the mid-range areas. Overall I was very pleased with Love's performance and the way he handled the offense.
Route running was a big issue in the game. There's a lot of work needed for receivers to be where they're supposed to be when a pass arrives.
 

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Van Ness played Fields brilliantly in his sack. He resisted the urge to go straight at him and instead mirrored his run. Veteran move.

Alexander on the other hand blew an untouched corner blitz. He should have slowed a little as he got close to Fields. Fields simply juked him up close and Alexander was grabbing at air. But that's nit picking. 4 sacks against Fields is not easy.
Van Ness was brilliant on that play with a very good wrap up tackle to end it. He looked like one of the Watt boys on that play.
 
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