Captain you made a statement that every team in the NFL drafts better than the Packers then you put up a metric that shows they are in the middle of the pact. Also your statement did not say in the Gute era. You conveniently added that caveat later. Carry on boys.
Glad I scrolled down, you took the words right out of my mouth. The "Metrics" that Captain chose, rank the Packers 18th.
My bad, I wanted to speculate on what another poster implied and not post my own opinion. I wasn't clear in pointing that out though.
With that being said I would have expected the Packers to rank worse than they do since Gutekunst took over, especially since the 2020 draft.
As a side note, when talking about the current front office it should be pretty obvious than the years Thompson was in charge should be ignored.
Also, who the hell is putting any metrics on the 2021 or 2022 draft just yet? Might even be too early for the 2020 draft "final evaluation".
The numbers I posted don't include the 2022 draft at all as PFR doesn't assign approximate value after until a season is finished.
I agree it's too early to make a fair evaluation about the 2021 and '22 drafts but the early returns are hardly promising.
You would make a great politician Captain, they can't keep their stories straight either.
Oh no, I would be a terrible politician.
I realize that this is probably mostly about the Love pick for you. Even though Gute has now drafted 48 players, signed quite a few Free agents and a boat load of UDFA's.
Most of the Gutekunst's other picks haven't worked out since 2020 either. When evaluating his drafts free agency needs to be ignored.
I guess I view Rodgers, an 18 season vet, the QB of the team and a guy they are paying $50+Million per year, as someone that is viewed as a leader of the team, by fans, teammates and coaches. I won't even talk about his pouting about wanting a bigger role in some of the decision making.
In my opinion you mistake Rodgers being the face of the franchise with him automatically being the leader of the team because of it.
Potentially you have actually stumbled upon his biggest weakness, he isn't really that great of a leader.
Neither of us have any idea about what kind of leader Rodgers actually is.
He has a different opinion than you. That used to be acceptable.
I have realized that as well. A lot of posters have huge issues with others having a different opinion.
Jordon Love is a "terrible" pick in some peoples eyes, because he has played very little and "had the Packers drafted 'this guy', they would have won a SB or 2".
The reason Love was a terrible pick is that everybody aside of Gutekunst saw it coming that he will hardly play.
Given how good the Packers have been over the last 30 years, I would say the organization is doing something right. Whether that is drafting, hiring, signing of FA's, etc., I don't think there is one thing you can point to and say "this was their downfall".
The Packers having had two HOF quarterbacks starting for the last 30 years is the only reason they have been that successful.
With this said...why did you & a few others gang up to drive
@captainWIMM away? He's got a different opinion & isn't afraid to share it (at least he wasn't until 2 days ago)?
Thanks for stepping up for me, Pkrjones, but I won't make it that easy for others to drive me away.
Nobody drove the Captain away, he's got thicker skin that that. Guessing he's busy traveling....to Green Bay. I think he was getting tickets for both the Cowboys and Titans game.
I'm sorry, totally forgot to tell you that because of the London game I postponed my trip to Green Bay to next season. Otherwise I would have written some of you to meet for a beer.
