Duds vs Commanders

[PikeBadger]

What I did notice is that I have not seen Packer receivers with such limited separation in years. Even the short stuff. No one was wide open. And that would happen 5-10 times in a game in the last decade. Rodgers had to put so many balls in such a tight window just to hope for a catch. Even the TD throw to Jones in the 4th quarter was covered well and should have been incomplete but for a phenomenal catch. We were spoiled for many years with some top notch receivers. And I do not mean only Adams. Heck, Bill Schroeder got open more than this bunch.

Schroeder got open because he was the fastest player on the field. Had no football instincts. A lot like Scantling.

 

[PikeBadger]

I’m about 90% sure GB is actively pursuing at least 1 outside WR

As you said we’ve typically not given up huge draft resources. However we must consider that occasionally Brian will splurge. Look at what he did with both Smiths.
He’s also gotten Rasul and Mercilus mid season. While Brian generally goes after Defensive players, that in itself does not preclude him from switching gears for a specific need.

In this case it’s obvious that our Offense is a bigger issue. If there’s a mid season acquisition I’m about 70% sure it will be on Offense. It’s more about availability and cost. I think he’d easily deal a 4th rounder, depending maybe a Day 2 area but stars need to align

Post Bulaga, they've also brought in free agent right tackles after the season started if I remember correctly.

 

[tynimiller]

Schroeder got open because he was the fastest player on the field. Had no football instincts. A lot like Scantling.

MVS did more than Schroeder IMO...started out identical though his rookie year I'll give you.

 

[PikeBadger]

MVS did more than Schroeder IMO...started out identical though his rookie year I'll give you.

I think, if I remember correctly, that Schroeder took a similar career path to Driver early in his career.

 

[tynimiller]

I think, if I remember correctly, that Schroeder took a similar career path to Driver early in his career.

I just meant MVS early on couldn't do much more than just run fast...then he started adding in blocking and then releases grew.

 

[Mondio]

Schroeder got open because he was the fastest player on the field. Had no football instincts. A lot like Scantling.

1 year of DIII college football and a whole lotta national championships in track brought him to the NFL

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Duds: The receiving corps
The secondary
The oline (run blocking)
TEs

Studs:
Aaron Jones
Pass rush

The more I watch this awful season the more excited I get for super-STUD Jordan Love to finally take the field. Gute, and many fans, were totally on board with this awful season when Love was drafted over anybody that would actually help the team in the near future (we'll ignore the rest of that atrocious draft).

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Studs: Lafluer for reminding me of 1975-1986 with the calls on Offense.

Duds: A plethora of stinky - team wide

All in all momma said there would be days like this. So this is what being a Lion fan is like. lol. They never came back from England.

SMH

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

That's what needs to change. 3wr's on the field should be seen less than 10 snaps a game imo. Jones should be used as a slot or motioned out wide more often than we see 3wr's.

Agreed, unless they find themselves way behind in the second half, at that point you don't have much of a choice. Until Rodgers and his WR's find some rhythm, I would prefer staying with their strength, the 2 AJ's running and shorter passes to them, TE's or WR's. MLF will still need to mix things up though, it already seems defenses are overplaying those short wide screens and they haven't been very effective.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Putting fewer receivers on the field means putting more players at other positions on the field. Why do people still view Dillon as some kind of answer on offense? He's been awful this season. What TE other than Tonyan deserves playing time and can add that YAC ability that this offense is really missing?

There are no good options to fix this offense. There aren't really any mediocre options to fix this offense. The personnel at the skill positions are just plain bad outside of Aaron Jones.

 

[Magooch]

Yep. Hard to think of many good solutions at the moment.
Can't commit heavy to the running game as nobody respects our passing game and so they can just sell out for the run.
Can't seem to get anything opened up in the passing game because the running game hasn't been effective.
And can't really get much going either way as our OL's been mediocre all-around.

Sooo.... I dunno.

 

[Toad]

Bak wasnt injury pr*n tho..that was THE best lt in the NFL (imo)

He is an expensive useless liability now! **** happens but he is washed up and the Packers are stuck with it!

 

[Toad]

Bakh was not injury prone, one catastrophic injury doesn't make you injury prone....now Cobb and Watkins careers....injury prone.

Still washed up and expensive baggage for the Packers to be stuck with for NOTHING! All it takes is one injury to end a career yet another reason for over paying players nowadays!

 

[tynimiller]

Still washed up and expensive baggage for the Packers to be stuck with for NOTHING! All it takes is one injury to end a career yet another reason for over paying players nowadays!

Okay, stop, and I mean that in the nicest way possible. Bakh was not washed up when we signed him - he was easily the best or 2nd best LT in the entire NFL when we signed him to his latest contract structure. He in zero way at all was washed up. Not a single person could predict that one of the most prolific and present pillars of our entire team since 2013 would have a catastrophic injury. You are talking about a guy that played for eight straight seasons 96% or more of the offensive snaps his team took at arguably the hardest position to master in the NFL.

Yes, I debated at the time should we have paid him that much...and at best all I could argue against was perhaps not paying him that much but he without hesitation was every bit worth the price tag it took.

Mahomes blows a knee tomorrow wouldn't mean he is washed up, injury prone or that the Chiefs made a mistake signing him....

 

[PikeBadger]

Hey Bill. How ya doing? What are you doing here??? Shouldn't you be picking a new Prime Minister today?

 

[rmontro]

Let’s hope so. With Lazard potentially out now we really need all the help we can get. Tonight even the Bears are looking better than us. :-(

I was just thinking we look a lot like the Bears, three and out, punt, three and out, punt.

 

[tynimiller]

I was just thinking we look a lot like the Bears, three and out, punt, three and out, punt.

Especially with O'Donnel doing the punting for us...

 

[OldSchool101]

Post Bulaga, they've also brought in free agent right tackles after the season started if I remember correctly.

That was actually my guess at position. Get one that’s a good Run blocker on a prorated deal and put your best run blockers out there and just bully teams with the Running game. We haven’t really went that path but it’s time we try. Run it
30-35 times it’s not like we don’t have the Personnel. If they start stacking the box with 9?
Let Aaron Sling it

Maybe sign a reasonable option for the Slot position also. I’m talking a couple later day 3 picks to shore up both positions.

 

[milani]

Schroeder got open because he was the fastest player on the field. Had no football instincts. A lot like Scantling.

Well, for a player with no instincts Favre found him quite a number of times. Right now Rodgers is not finding much of anyone.

 

[longtimefan]

He is an expensive useless liability now! **** happens but he is washed up and the Packers are stuck with it!

So.....if this happens to rodgers....feel the same?

Let me clarify as some misunderstood and don't realize I have them ignore...

Yes you sun..stop quoting me...

If Rodgers has a big injury and cant get healthy is he useless liability?

 

[Sunshinepacker]

So.....if this happens to rodgers....feel the same?

I certainly will. Though I'd need some pretty strong data showing why the best QB in the league suddenly fell to awful in just 8 months without any injury. Just pointing at a terrible offense with awful receivers and a dysfunctional oline isn't enough evidence to definitively state the QB's performance just fell off in a historical fashion.

 

[swhitset]

So.....if this happens to rodgers....feel the same?

Let me clarify as some misunderstood and don't realize I have them ignore...

Yes you sun..stop quoting me...

If Rodgers has a big injury and cant get healthy is he useless liability?

Well…technically yes by definition … of course. So is every other player that cant play… but still collecting a paycheck. Those are the risks… Im not complaining about Bahk per se… He was and may yet still is one of the best…. but right now … he definitely is a liability.

 

[McKnowledge]

No I’m not I have been a packers fan my whole life. been here the last ten years in the forum but no one likes the way I talk and have to put a lol after everything I say otherwise some people get butt hurt. I’m not afraid to say it how it is with this team and not make excuses for them I’m not a ignorant fan… “and that is not directed towards anyone” they suck bottom line they have beaten subpar teams the last few years and anytime they play anyone good they can’t get the job done. I have specifically said the last few years they weren’t going anywhere even with their good record all season long losing to San Fran losing to the Bucs losing to San Fran again I kept saying it and everyone hated it but it’s the cold hard truth they aren’t good enough they don’t make any significant moves to get better there was plenty of players that make them better in the past and nobody wanted them because of their “drama” I’m not going into specifics but they wasted Rodgers career he carried them through the years and now he has no weapons they didn’t improve the roster at all this year and I said they would be lucky to win 8 games this year. I blame the front office and **** poor coaching they have had and they hold onto players for way to long that suck. Like the front office is stupid they could have had a good player and they take a qb that absolutely BLOWSSSS and then resign Rodgers for example. they are a hot mess and they are finished.

Unless its attuned to the good old Midwestern mythos.

Too much hard work (less work smarter), loyalty to a fault, and the love for misery is all too often the underlying themes for many Packer fans.

 

[longtimefan]

No I’m not I have been a packers fan my whole life. been here the last ten years in the forum but no one likes the way I talk and have to put a lol after everything I say otherwise some people get butt hurt. I’m not afraid to say it how it is with this team and not make excuses for them I’m not a ignorant fan… “and that is not directed towards anyone” they suck bottom line they have beaten subpar teams the last few years and anytime they play anyone good they can’t get the job done. I have specifically said the last few years they weren’t going anywhere even with their good record all season long losing to San Fran losing to the Bucs losing to San Fran again I kept saying it and everyone hated it but it’s the cold hard truth they aren’t good enough they don’t make any significant moves to get better there was plenty of players that make them better in the past and nobody wanted them because of their “drama” I’m not going into specifics but they wasted Rodgers career he carried them through the years and now he has no weapons they didn’t improve the roster at all this year and I said they would be lucky to win 8 games this year. I blame the front office and **** poor coaching they have had and they hold onto players for way to long that suck. Like the front office is stupid they could have had a good player and they take a qb that absolutely BLOWSSSS and then resign Rodgers for example. they are a hot mess and they are finished.

8 years

 

[Deleted member 6794]

LOL no amount of money you could pay me would override such a reaction.

We will have to disagree that Rodgers' reactions are an issue.

MVS did more than Schroeder IMO...started out identical though his rookie year I'll give you.

Schroeder had a season of over 1,000 yards and another two over 900. He had a bigger impact than MVS with the Packers.

MLF will still need to mix things up though, it already seems defenses are overplaying those short wide screens and they haven't been very effective.

Before the game against the Commanders everybody was advocating for Rodgers to primarily throw short passes. Not that hasn't worked it's back to something else.

Unfortunately I don't believe there's any way to make this offense succeed aside of somehow being able to establish a deep passing game.

I was just thinking we look a lot like the Bears, three and out, punt, three and out, punt.

As I have mentioned in another thread, only seven teams go three and out less often than the Packers.

That was actually my guess at position. Get one that’s a good Run blocker on a prorated deal and put your best run blockers out there and just bully teams with the Running game. We haven’t really went that path but it’s time we try. Run it
30-35 times it’s not like we don’t have the Personnel. If they start stacking the box with 9?
Let Aaron Sling it

Opponents already stack the box yet the Packers aren't able to throw the ball downfield successfully.