2023 53 Man Roster Speculation...

[lambeaulambo]

Stokes should be back by now. Not good.

 

[Voyageur]

Stokes should be back by now. Not good.

The lisfranc injury Stokes suffered could keep him on the sideline for some time. It usually takes over a year before you can even start doing any athletics on that foot. Add on a period of time to recover from the inactivity, there's a chance we might not see him for some time. I've heard some who know more about the injury say it could actually end up being career ending, if he can't recover his foot speed, which often happens.

As of now, pencil others in, and him out.

 

[milani]

The lisfranc injury Stokes suffered could keep him on the sideline for some time. It usually takes over a year before you can even start doing any athletics on that foot. Add on a period of time to recover from the inactivity, there's a chance we might not see him for some time. I've heard some who know more about the injury say it could actually end up being career ending, if he can't recover his foot speed, which often happens.

As of now, pencil others in, and him out.

So you wonder why he is only on the PUP. Could this be another Bahktiari recovery?

 

[tynimiller]

Stokes was running full speed straight line (video of him with Kyle Pitts) but cutting and such is a massively different animal.

 

[Voyageur]

Stokes was running full speed straight line (video of him with Kyle Pitts) but cutting and such is a massively different animal.

The question is whether full speed today even resembles anything from the days when he relied on that 4.25 speed to be a dominant CB? From my sources, that's a long way off. They suggest he's running, but what some people call full speed is not even close to what he can do, when healthy. They also suggest that if he tries to push the rehab through the running phase, he's going to end up a candidate for a serious pulled hamstring, because of the combination of knee and foot injury.

Lots of things go on beyond what is public knowledge.

 

[OldSchool101]

Yeah, both were injured on Nov 6 (week 9). However from everything I’ve read on that Linsfranc is it’s about 12 months for returning to more normal activity. Although reading into reports I remember them saying we are taking the safe approach. If the injury heals properly and he’s not rushed it increases his chances of a full comeback. One study they mentioned included Offensive players (centered around Cam Newton’s Linsfranc) The positive news is that there was no noticeable decline in play from those that returned without complication (arthritis occurring etc). So if that baby heals his prognosis is really quite good, but it’s a complicated area of the foot. If they can slow roll him they can avoid fusing the bones which should give him a great chance at normal movement.

My best (uneducated) guess is his recovery is on track near perfectly or he wouldn’t be running at all at 8 months area because that’s very early for this type surgery. I’d be surprised if Stokes returns full time before the end of October area. He could absolutely be full throttle by Nov-Dec if surgery was successful.

 

[Voyageur]

Yeah, both were injured on Nov 6 (week 9). However from everything I’ve read on that Linsfranc is it’s about 12 months for returning to more normal activity. Although reading into reports I remember them saying we are taking the safe approach. If the injury heals properly and he’s not rushed it increases his chances of a full comeback. One study they mentioned included Offensive players (centered around Cam Newton’s Linsfranc) The positive news is that there was no noticeable decline in play from those that returned without complication (arthritis occurring etc). So if that baby heals his prognosis is really quite good, but it’s a complicated area of the foot.

My best (uneducated) guess is his recovery is on track near perfectly or he wouldn’t be running at all at 8 months area. I’d be surprised if Stoked returns before November area.

November is kind of pushing it. He shouldn't even start doing workouts until about a year of recovery. That's when he should start getting in football condition. Until then, he can't afford to put any pressure on the healing process.

It's a really complicated injury. So many variables. Complicating it is the knee injury. Lots of lost reps to keep the body in shape.

 

[OldSchool101]

November is kind of pushing it. He shouldn't even start doing workouts until about a year of recovery. That's when he should start getting in football condition. Until then, he can't afford to put any pressure on the healing process.

It's a really complicated injury. So many variables. Complicating it is the knee injury. Lots of lost reps to keep the body in shape.

True. I think the most positive thing I’ve heard is he was running on it? If that is true that’s a fantastic sign for his recovery timeline. I absolutely think he’ll take a minute to heal up and I’m not arguing against that at all as it’s a finicky place for an injury. What I was most encouraged with this one is given proper time he could make a full recovery and it shouldn’t affect his ability to regain full use of his foot eventually. It doesn’t seem to follow the “Bakhtiari path” as often as other types of injuries.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

We can only hope that Stokes comes back 100% and during his non-rehab time, he's in the film room a lot, studying how to improve his game, which it appears he is doing.

When he looked at video from his first two seasons, Stokes noticed he was having more fun as a rookie.

“I was out there too much in my head last year,” Stokes said. “It is what it is. It’s just learning how to just be you is something I took away from it. Just learn to be you.”

 

[OldSchool101]

We can only hope that Stokes comes back 100% and during his non-rehab time, he's in the film room a lot, studying how to improve his game, which it appears he is doing.

When he looked at video from his first two seasons, Stokes noticed he was having more fun as a rookie.

“I was out there too much in my head last year,” Stokes said. “It is what it is. It’s just learning how to just be you is something I took away from it. Just learn to be you.”

Funny I have a 4yr old (soon to 5 I should be a Grandpa) and I gave her a big hug and said to her this morning.
“You’re getting so big and smart..I’m going to miss you being a baby”
She said
“I’m just myself Daddy.. I’m just me” It was a top 100 being a Dad moment there I almost didn’t know what to say? it was such a good and effortless comeback all I could do was agree and laugh there.
I think myself and Stokes need to take her advice and just be us

 

[mradtke66]

Well you can never have enough good CB’s. I think Stokes is fine as a CB2-3.
As far as the future of Rashan Gary, Much will depend
1. Rashan showing full recovery.
2. Our QB progress (timing)
3. LVN status. If he shows signs of dominance early on I could see letting Gary go.

Unfortunately we learned the hard way with Bakhtiari how injuries change the player value landscape very quickly. Although having 2 OLB that are both dominant is appealing.

I can't see LVN having any direct impact on Gary's future. Preston Smith is getting old. Far more likely is LVN's progression leads to when we're ready to cut bait with him, not Gary.

 

[mradtke66]

So you wonder why he is only on the PUP. Could this be another Bahktiari recovery?

Depends what you mean.

Lisfranc injuries can linger, so in that way, yes, it could feel like Bhak's knee. However, they are KNOWN to be tricky and take time.

ACLs are are much more common injury and typically with a much shorter recovery window. In Bhak's case, there were complications and multiple followup surgeries that were knee related, but not ACL related. So, they would not be be the same.

 

[Voyageur]

Remember, Gary becomes an UFA next year. That will play a big part in where things go. His health will make the Packers leery, but someone is out there who will look past it, and gamble.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Remember, Gary becomes an UFA next year. That will play a big part in where things go. His health will make the Packers leery, but someone is out there who will look past it, and gamble.

Waiting on potentially resigning Gary is a good and a bad thing. Good, since the Packers are waiting to see how he comes back after the injury. Bad, in the fact that if he comes back 100%, he might price himself out of Green Bay. I can't imagine Gute and the Packers wanting to lose him, so I expect and extension that folds in his current 5th year salary of $10.892M. Packers keep a great player and get some cap relief if they want it.

 

[Dantés]

I'll take another stab now as we're closer:

QB (3): The only question here is whether they'll keep a QB3 in light of the NFL's new rule, allowing a 3rd QB to be active without counting against the 46 man roster. I could see that happening (though not a lock), but I don't think McGough would necessarily be the guy; he's a place holder.

-J. Love, Utah State, #10
-S. Clifford, Penn State, #8
-A. McGough, Florida International, #17

RB (2): Given all that is now made possible by the expanded practice squad and gameday call-ups, I could see them just rolling with two backs again.

-A. Jones, Texas-El Paso, #33
-A. Dillon, Boston College, #28

FB/HB (1): This is assuming that Person's injury against the Patriots isn't long term. If it is, then Deguara would keep this spot. He might keep it regardless, but I don't think he's shown enough.

-H. Pearson, Appalachian State, #44

TE (3): I think the #1 position they'll shop for at cut downs is a youngish TE with some blocking ability.

-L. Musgrave, Oregon State, #88
-T. Kraft, South Dakota State, #85
-Roster Cut/Trade

WR (7): I am envisioning a scenario in which the Packers don't want to submit either Heath nor Dubose to waivers.

-C. Watson, North Dakota State, #9
-R. Doubs, Nevada, #87
-J. Reed, Michigan State, #11
-S. Toure, Nebraska, #83
-D. Wicks, Virginia, #13
-M. Heath, Mississippi, #18
-G. Dubose, Charlotte, #86

OL (8): This lineup assumes that they trade Nijman and trade/cut Newman. Tom and Runyan cross-training at center is what would allow them to roll with 8.

-D. Bakhtiari, Colorado, #69
-Z. Tom, Wake Forest, #50
-R. Walker, Penn State, #63
-C. Jones, Indiana, #72
-E. Jenkins, Mississippi State, #74
-J. Runyan, Michigan, #76
-S. Rhyan, UCLA, #75
-J. Myers, Ohio State, #71

DL (6): The top 5 are basically locks and there's been a steady drum beat of positive reports on Ford.

-K. Clark, UCLA, #97
-D. Wyatt, Georgia, #95
-T. Slaton, Florida, #93
-C. Wooden, Auburn, #96
-K. Brooks, Bowling Green, #94
-J. Ford, Miami, #99

LB (5): I thought about replacing Wilson with a younger option, but I just don't know who that would be.

-Q. Walker, Georgia, #7
-D. Campbell, Minnesota, #59
-I. McDuffie, Boston College, #58
-E. Wilson, Cincinnati, #45
-T. Carpenter, Georgia Tech, #24

ED (5): Hollins was the guy I cut out to make way for a QB3. If they only carry two QB's, I would have 6 edge.

-R. Gary, Michigan, #52
-P. Smith, Mississippi State, #91
-K. Enagbare, South Carolina, #55
-L. Van Ness, Iowa, #90
-B. Cox, Florida, #57

CB (5): Ballentine plays teams, so I have him making the roster as long as Stokes is on the PUP.

-J. Alexander, Louisville, #23
-R. Douglas, West Virginia, #29
-K. Nixon, South Carolina, #25
-C. Valentine, Kentucky, #37
-C. Ballentine, Washburn, #35

S (5): I picked Moore to end up as the other starter, but that assumes his injury isn't serious. Gaines over Leavitt is about age and also the fact that there aren't many slot corner options on the roster behind Nixon. One alternative I could see is that Gaines and Leavitt both make it and Ballentine doesn't.

-D. Savage, Maryland, #26
-T. Moore, Southern Mississippi, #30*
-R. Ford, Auburn, #20
-A. Johnson, Iowa State, #36
-I. Gaines, TCU, #38

ST (3):

-A. Carlson, Auburn, #17
-P. O'Donnell, Miami, #16
-M. Orzech, Azusa Pacific, #42

PUP: E. Stokes, Georgia, #21

 

[Dantés]

I'll take another stab now as we're closer:

QB (3): The only question here is whether they'll keep a QB3 in light of the NFL's new rule, allowing a 3rd QB to be active without counting against the 46 man roster. I could see that happening (though not a lock), but I don't think McGough would necessarily be the guy; he's a place holder.

-J. Love, Utah State, #10
-S. Clifford, Penn State, #8
-A. McGough, Florida International, #17

RB (2): Given all that is now made possible by the expanded practice squad and gameday call-ups, I could see them just rolling with two backs again.

-A. Jones, Texas-El Paso, #33
-A. Dillon, Boston College, #28

FB/HB (1): This is assuming that Person's injury against the Patriots isn't long term. If it is, then Deguara would keep this spot. He might keep it regardless, but I don't think he's shown enough.

-H. Pearson, Appalachian State, #44

TE (3): I think the #1 position they'll shop for at cut downs is a youngish TE with some blocking ability.

-L. Musgrave, Oregon State, #88
-T. Kraft, South Dakota State, #85
-Roster Cut/Trade

WR (7): I am envisioning a scenario in which the Packers don't want to submit either Heath nor Dubose to waivers.

-C. Watson, North Dakota State, #9
-R. Doubs, Nevada, #87
-J. Reed, Michigan State, #11
-S. Toure, Nebraska, #83
-D. Wicks, Virginia, #13
-M. Heath, Mississippi, #18
-G. Dubose, Charlotte, #86

OL (8): This lineup assumes that they trade Nijman and trade/cut Newman. Tom and Runyan cross-training at center is what would allow them to roll with 8.

-D. Bakhtiari, Colorado, #69
-Z. Tom, Wake Forest, #50
-R. Walker, Penn State, #63
-C. Jones, Indiana, #72
-E. Jenkins, Mississippi State, #74
-J. Runyan, Michigan, #76
-S. Rhyan, UCLA, #75
-J. Myers, Ohio State, #71

DL (6): The top 5 are basically locks and there's been a steady drum beat of positive reports on Ford.

-K. Clark, UCLA, #97
-D. Wyatt, Georgia, #95
-T. Slaton, Florida, #93
-C. Wooden, Auburn, #96
-K. Brooks, Bowling Green, #94
-J. Ford, Miami, #99

LB (5): I thought about replacing Wilson with a younger option, but I just don't know who that would be.

-Q. Walker, Georgia, #7
-D. Campbell, Minnesota, #59
-I. McDuffie, Boston College, #58
-E. Wilson, Cincinnati, #45
-T. Carpenter, Georgia Tech, #24

ED (5): Hollins was the guy I cut out to make way for a QB3. If they only carry two QB's, I would have 6 edge.

-R. Gary, Michigan, #52
-P. Smith, Mississippi State, #91
-K. Enagbare, South Carolina, #55
-L. Van Ness, Iowa, #90
-B. Cox, Florida, #57

CB (5): Ballentine plays teams, so I have him making the roster as long as Stokes is on the PUP.

-J. Alexander, Louisville, #23
-R. Douglas, West Virginia, #29
-K. Nixon, South Carolina, #25
-C. Valentine, Kentucky, #37
-C. Ballentine, Washburn, #35

S (5): I picked Moore to end up as the other starter, but that assumes his injury isn't serious. Gaines over Leavitt is about age and also the fact that there aren't many slot corner options on the roster behind Nixon. One alternative I could see is that Gaines and Leavitt both make it and Ballentine doesn't.

-D. Savage, Maryland, #26
-T. Moore, Southern Mississippi, #30*
-R. Ford, Auburn, #20
-A. Johnson, Iowa State, #36
-I. Gaines, TCU, #38

ST (3):

-A. Carlson, Auburn, #17
-P. O'Donnell, Miami, #16
-M. Orzech, Azusa Pacific, #42

PUP: E. Stokes, Georgia, #21

Some ideas of possible options at TE's:

-The Cardinals save 1.25M if they release Geoff Swaim; if they keep Ertz, there's a chance he ends up on the outside looking in.

-If the Cowboys keep only 3 TE's, then Peyton Hendershot or Sean McKeon would be on waivers.

-The Texans might let go of Eric Tomlinson.

-The Saints could part ways with Jesse James.

-If the 49ers keep Ross Dwelley over Charlie Woerner, the latter would be a good target.

However, more likely than any of these options is that the pro scouting dept identifies someone whose name I've never heard before in preseason.

 

[OldSchool101]

I’m for anyone who works and really at TE, I’d most prefer (personally) to be looking for someone who can play TE
J/K checking to see if you’re awake!

Ideally we get a veteran who has:
1. Solid and proven blocking ability
2. A Significant # of ST snaps.
3. Already possesses at least 2+ years
of overall Professional experience. That can be a mixture of PS or ST or live game experience on O in the format of someone else’s Tyler Davis.

I do not want to make TE cookies from scratch right now. The guests are arriving in 20 minutes. Just run to the store and buy those Keebler’s with the chocolate stripes or M&M’s or something..here’s $10 bucks

 

[gopkrs]

I want to roll with Kraft and would like to see some two tight end sets with him. Where they throw the ball.

 

[milani]

I'll take another stab now as we're closer:

QB (3): The only question here is whether they'll keep a QB3 in light of the NFL's new rule, allowing a 3rd QB to be active without counting against the 46 man roster. I could see that happening (though not a lock), but I don't think McGough would necessarily be the guy; he's a place holder.

-J. Love, Utah State, #10
-S. Clifford, Penn State, #8
-A. McGough, Florida International, #17

RB (2): Given all that is now made possible by the expanded practice squad and gameday call-ups, I could see them just rolling with two backs again.

-A. Jones, Texas-El Paso, #33
-A. Dillon, Boston College, #28

FB/HB (1): This is assuming that Person's injury against the Patriots isn't long term. If it is, then Deguara would keep this spot. He might keep it regardless, but I don't think he's shown enough.

-H. Pearson, Appalachian State, #44

TE (3): I think the #1 position they'll shop for at cut downs is a youngish TE with some blocking ability.

-L. Musgrave, Oregon State, #88
-T. Kraft, South Dakota State, #85
-Roster Cut/Trade

WR (7): I am envisioning a scenario in which the Packers don't want to submit either Heath nor Dubose to waivers.

-C. Watson, North Dakota State, #9
-R. Doubs, Nevada, #87
-J. Reed, Michigan State, #11
-S. Toure, Nebraska, #83
-D. Wicks, Virginia, #13
-M. Heath, Mississippi, #18
-G. Dubose, Charlotte, #86

OL (8): This lineup assumes that they trade Nijman and trade/cut Newman. Tom and Runyan cross-training at center is what would allow them to roll with 8.

-D. Bakhtiari, Colorado, #69
-Z. Tom, Wake Forest, #50
-R. Walker, Penn State, #63
-C. Jones, Indiana, #72
-E. Jenkins, Mississippi State, #74
-J. Runyan, Michigan, #76
-S. Rhyan, UCLA, #75
-J. Myers, Ohio State, #71

DL (6): The top 5 are basically locks and there's been a steady drum beat of positive reports on Ford.

-K. Clark, UCLA, #97
-D. Wyatt, Georgia, #95
-T. Slaton, Florida, #93
-C. Wooden, Auburn, #96
-K. Brooks, Bowling Green, #94
-J. Ford, Miami, #99

LB (5): I thought about replacing Wilson with a younger option, but I just don't know who that would be.

-Q. Walker, Georgia, #7
-D. Campbell, Minnesota, #59
-I. McDuffie, Boston College, #58
-E. Wilson, Cincinnati, #45
-T. Carpenter, Georgia Tech, #24

ED (5): Hollins was the guy I cut out to make way for a QB3. If they only carry two QB's, I would have 6 edge.

-R. Gary, Michigan, #52
-P. Smith, Mississippi State, #91
-K. Enagbare, South Carolina, #55
-L. Van Ness, Iowa, #90
-B. Cox, Florida, #57

CB (5): Ballentine plays teams, so I have him making the roster as long as Stokes is on the PUP.

-J. Alexander, Louisville, #23
-R. Douglas, West Virginia, #29
-K. Nixon, South Carolina, #25
-C. Valentine, Kentucky, #37
-C. Ballentine, Washburn, #35

S (5): I picked Moore to end up as the other starter, but that assumes his injury isn't serious. Gaines over Leavitt is about age and also the fact that there aren't many slot corner options on the roster behind Nixon. One alternative I could see is that Gaines and Leavitt both make it and Ballentine doesn't.

-D. Savage, Maryland, #26
-T. Moore, Southern Mississippi, #30*
-R. Ford, Auburn, #20
-A. Johnson, Iowa State, #36
-I. Gaines, TCU, #38

ST (3):

-A. Carlson, Auburn, #17
-P. O'Donnell, Miami, #16
-M. Orzech, Azusa Pacific, #42

PUP: E. Stokes, Georgia, #21

They really went after Ballentine a lot last night. But that is what preseason is for.

 

[Schultz]

I'll take another stab now as we're closer:

QB (3): The only question here is whether they'll keep a QB3 in light of the NFL's new rule, allowing a 3rd QB to be active without counting against the 46 man roster. I could see that happening (though not a lock), but I don't think McGough would necessarily be the guy; he's a place holder.

-J. Love, Utah State, #10
-S. Clifford, Penn State, #8
-A. McGough, Florida International, #17

RB (2): Given all that is now made possible by the expanded practice squad and gameday call-ups, I could see them just rolling with two backs again.

-A. Jones, Texas-El Paso, #33
-A. Dillon, Boston College, #28

FB/HB (1): This is assuming that Person's injury against the Patriots isn't long term. If it is, then Deguara would keep this spot. He might keep it regardless, but I don't think he's shown enough.

-H. Pearson, Appalachian State, #44

TE (3): I think the #1 position they'll shop for at cut downs is a youngish TE with some blocking ability.

-L. Musgrave, Oregon State, #88
-T. Kraft, South Dakota State, #85
-Roster Cut/Trade

WR (7): I am envisioning a scenario in which the Packers don't want to submit either Heath nor Dubose to waivers.

-C. Watson, North Dakota State, #9
-R. Doubs, Nevada, #87
-J. Reed, Michigan State, #11
-S. Toure, Nebraska, #83
-D. Wicks, Virginia, #13
-M. Heath, Mississippi, #18
-G. Dubose, Charlotte, #86

OL (8): This lineup assumes that they trade Nijman and trade/cut Newman. Tom and Runyan cross-training at center is what would allow them to roll with 8.

-D. Bakhtiari, Colorado, #69
-Z. Tom, Wake Forest, #50
-R. Walker, Penn State, #63
-C. Jones, Indiana, #72
-E. Jenkins, Mississippi State, #74
-J. Runyan, Michigan, #76
-S. Rhyan, UCLA, #75
-J. Myers, Ohio State, #71

DL (6): The top 5 are basically locks and there's been a steady drum beat of positive reports on Ford.

-K. Clark, UCLA, #97
-D. Wyatt, Georgia, #95
-T. Slaton, Florida, #93
-C. Wooden, Auburn, #96
-K. Brooks, Bowling Green, #94
-J. Ford, Miami, #99

LB (5): I thought about replacing Wilson with a younger option, but I just don't know who that would be.

-Q. Walker, Georgia, #7
-D. Campbell, Minnesota, #59
-I. McDuffie, Boston College, #58
-E. Wilson, Cincinnati, #45
-T. Carpenter, Georgia Tech, #24

ED (5): Hollins was the guy I cut out to make way for a QB3. If they only carry two QB's, I would have 6 edge.

-R. Gary, Michigan, #52
-P. Smith, Mississippi State, #91
-K. Enagbare, South Carolina, #55
-L. Van Ness, Iowa, #90
-B. Cox, Florida, #57

CB (5): Ballentine plays teams, so I have him making the roster as long as Stokes is on the PUP.

-J. Alexander, Louisville, #23
-R. Douglas, West Virginia, #29
-K. Nixon, South Carolina, #25
-C. Valentine, Kentucky, #37
-C. Ballentine, Washburn, #35

S (5): I picked Moore to end up as the other starter, but that assumes his injury isn't serious. Gaines over Leavitt is about age and also the fact that there aren't many slot corner options on the roster behind Nixon. One alternative I could see is that Gaines and Leavitt both make it and Ballentine doesn't.

-D. Savage, Maryland, #26
-T. Moore, Southern Mississippi, #30*
-R. Ford, Auburn, #20
-A. Johnson, Iowa State, #36
-I. Gaines, TCU, #38

ST (3):

-A. Carlson, Auburn, #17
-P. O'Donnell, Miami, #16
-M. Orzech, Azusa Pacific, #42

PUP: E. Stokes, Georgia, #21

Has Owens been that bad at Safety?

 

[Dantés]

Has Owens been that bad at Safety?

From what I’ve heard, not really very good, no. And he’s older. But he could totally make it too.

 

[tynimiller]

I'll take another stab now as we're closer:

QB (3): The only question here is whether they'll keep a QB3 in light of the NFL's new rule, allowing a 3rd QB to be active without counting against the 46 man roster. I could see that happening (though not a lock), but I don't think McGough would necessarily be the guy; he's a place holder.

-J. Love, Utah State, #10
-S. Clifford, Penn State, #8
-A. McGough, Florida International, #17

RB (2): Given all that is now made possible by the expanded practice squad and gameday call-ups, I could see them just rolling with two backs again.

-A. Jones, Texas-El Paso, #33
-A. Dillon, Boston College, #28

FB/HB (1): This is assuming that Person's injury against the Patriots isn't long term. If it is, then Deguara would keep this spot. He might keep it regardless, but I don't think he's shown enough.

-H. Pearson, Appalachian State, #44

TE (3): I think the #1 position they'll shop for at cut downs is a youngish TE with some blocking ability.

-L. Musgrave, Oregon State, #88
-T. Kraft, South Dakota State, #85
-Roster Cut/Trade

WR (7): I am envisioning a scenario in which the Packers don't want to submit either Heath nor Dubose to waivers.

-C. Watson, North Dakota State, #9
-R. Doubs, Nevada, #87
-J. Reed, Michigan State, #11
-S. Toure, Nebraska, #83
-D. Wicks, Virginia, #13
-M. Heath, Mississippi, #18
-G. Dubose, Charlotte, #86

OL (8): This lineup assumes that they trade Nijman and trade/cut Newman. Tom and Runyan cross-training at center is what would allow them to roll with 8.

-D. Bakhtiari, Colorado, #69
-Z. Tom, Wake Forest, #50
-R. Walker, Penn State, #63
-C. Jones, Indiana, #72
-E. Jenkins, Mississippi State, #74
-J. Runyan, Michigan, #76
-S. Rhyan, UCLA, #75
-J. Myers, Ohio State, #71

DL (6): The top 5 are basically locks and there's been a steady drum beat of positive reports on Ford.

-K. Clark, UCLA, #97
-D. Wyatt, Georgia, #95
-T. Slaton, Florida, #93
-C. Wooden, Auburn, #96
-K. Brooks, Bowling Green, #94
-J. Ford, Miami, #99

LB (5): I thought about replacing Wilson with a younger option, but I just don't know who that would be.

-Q. Walker, Georgia, #7
-D. Campbell, Minnesota, #59
-I. McDuffie, Boston College, #58
-E. Wilson, Cincinnati, #45
-T. Carpenter, Georgia Tech, #24

ED (5): Hollins was the guy I cut out to make way for a QB3. If they only carry two QB's, I would have 6 edge.

-R. Gary, Michigan, #52
-P. Smith, Mississippi State, #91
-K. Enagbare, South Carolina, #55
-L. Van Ness, Iowa, #90
-B. Cox, Florida, #57

CB (5): Ballentine plays teams, so I have him making the roster as long as Stokes is on the PUP.

-J. Alexander, Louisville, #23
-R. Douglas, West Virginia, #29
-K. Nixon, South Carolina, #25
-C. Valentine, Kentucky, #37
-C. Ballentine, Washburn, #35

S (5): I picked Moore to end up as the other starter, but that assumes his injury isn't serious. Gaines over Leavitt is about age and also the fact that there aren't many slot corner options on the roster behind Nixon. One alternative I could see is that Gaines and Leavitt both make it and Ballentine doesn't.

-D. Savage, Maryland, #26
-T. Moore, Southern Mississippi, #30*
-R. Ford, Auburn, #20
-A. Johnson, Iowa State, #36
-I. Gaines, TCU, #38

ST (3):

-A. Carlson, Auburn, #17
-P. O'Donnell, Miami, #16
-M. Orzech, Azusa Pacific, #42

PUP: E. Stokes, Georgia, #21

What's the * by Moore number designate? Curious if you forgot to make a note on that.

My only hesitation is keeping 3 QBs, I just don't think they do it and will roll with two as they always have, plus I don't think McGough is a risk to lose in waivers and can be here still on PS.

The more I watch this WR room over practices and preseason - a big part of me wonders if Toure is actually playing himself off this team. Not because he has done anything wrong but by the fact he hasn't done anything to stand out. Heath for sure has and argument is there Wicks too. I just wouldn't be shocked to see if the team is at 54, and 7 WRs they would pluck Toure off the list before the likes of letting Heath walk or Wicks....I think it is 6 and it is Toure or Dubose on the outside looking in.

 

[Voyageur]

I think they will go with 3 QBs because the 3rd is a sideline freebie on game day. Can dress 47 guys not counting him. They can stash a guy on the practice squad that they can use on a two-way basis. They did some of that last year. With the new QB rule, it's going to become common for most teams.

I think that they might even adjust the rule next year, and allow that #3 QB to be a plus to the 53 man roster.

But, it's hard to say for sure which way this will go.

 

[Dantés]

What's the * by Moore number designate? Curious if you forgot to make a note on that.

My only hesitation is keeping 3 QBs, I just don't think they do it and will roll with two as they always have, plus I don't think McGough is a risk to lose in waivers and can be here still on PS.

The more I watch this WR room over practices and preseason - a big part of me wonders if Toure is actually playing himself off this team. Not because he has done anything wrong but by the fact he hasn't done anything to stand out. Heath for sure has and argument is there Wicks too. I just wouldn't be shocked to see if the team is at 54, and 7 WRs they would pluck Toure off the list before the likes of letting Heath walk or Wicks....I think it is 6 and it is Toure or Dubose on the outside looking in.

I originally was using asterisks, but then just decided to add my comments to each position group. For him, I was just going to note that his spot there would depend on the severity of his injury from Saturday's game.

I don't think they'll keep McGough. He's a place holder. Would not be surprised at all if they only carry 2 QB's, but given the rule it's an interesting question.

It seems like Toure's hype has run out of steam, but I would still be mildly surprised if he didn't make the roster. Reminds me somewhat of Tyler Davis from last year-- lots of positive coaching comments and some good moments in camp, unremarkable preseason, and then he made the roster and played on teams a ton.

 

[Voyageur]

I originally was using asterisks, but then just decided to add my comments to each position group. For him, I was just going to note that his spot there would depend on the severity of his injury from Saturday's game.

I don't think they'll keep McGough. He's a place holder. Would not be surprised at all if they only carry 2 QB's, but given the rule it's an interesting question.

It seems like Toure's hype has run out of steam, but I would still be mildly surprised if he didn't make the roster. Reminds me somewhat of Tyler Davis from last year-- lots of positive coaching comments and some good moments in camp, unremarkable preseason, and then he made the roster and played on teams a ton.

You could refer to him as Lynn Dipstick.