vikings offense

[GB2016]

One important factor that might play into our hands it their new OC. Defillipo doesn't have a great track record so it wouldn't be surprised if they took a step backwards on offence.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

One important factor that might play into our hands it their new OC. Defillipo doesn't have a great track record so it wouldn't be surprised if they took a step backwards on offence.

While the Browns struggled with DeFilippo being their offensive coordinator in 2015 it seems he did a terrific job as the Eagles quarterback coach over the past two seasons. I don't expect the Vikings offense to regress this year by any means.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

The Vikes shall see a return to the awful Norv Turner days and be calling for JDF to be fired by week 2

 

[Raptorman]

While the Browns struggled with DeFilippo being their offensive coordinator in 2015 it seems he did a terrific job as the Eagles quarterback coach over the past two seasons. I don't expect the Vikings offense to regress this year by any means.

The Browns struggled. Let's take a look at who he had to work with.

QB. Johnny Manziel, Josh McCown, Austin Davis.
WR. Terrelle Pryor, Travis Benjamin, Andrew Hawkins, Brian Hartline.
TE Gary Barnidge,
RB. Isaiah Crowell, Duke Johnson.

Now. This group managed somehow to put 20 passing TD's, and 5 rushing TD's. 17.4 points per game. But if think for a moment that the Vikings Offensive starters are as bad as this group, yeah, they might take a step back. Keep in mind that 4 of those on that list are now out of football.

 

[Raptorman]

Oh wait, they have a new QB and OC! They are going to be bad because they have to adjust to the new system.

2016. Teddy is going to be their QB until just before the start of the season. He goes down. Bradford comes in. They don't miss beat. Wait, Turner quits in the middle of the year, now they have to adjust to Shurmer.
2017. Bradford is the new QB. Shurmer the OC. Bradford goes down. Now they have to adjust again. Keenum goes 11-3
2018. Cousins in the New QB. Shurmer is gone, DeFilpo the new OC. Now they have to adjust again. Wow, not sure if they can do it.

I think they got the "adjusting" part down the last few years . Or, maybe they are more like the Packers, Rodgers goes down and no one adjust's.

 

[rodell330]

Oh wait, they have a new QB and OC! They are going to be bad because they have to adjust to the new system.

2016. Teddy is going to be their QB until just before the start of the season. He goes down. Bradford comes in. They don't miss beat. Wait, Turner quits in the middle of the year, now they have to adjust to Shurmer.
2017. Bradford is the new QB. Shurmer the OC. Bradford goes down. Now they have to adjust again. Keenum goes 11-3
2018. Cousins in the New QB. Shurmer is gone, DeFilpo the new OC. Now they have to adjust again. Wow, not sure if they can do it.

I think they got the "adjusting" part down the last few years . Or, maybe they are more like the Packers, Rodgers goes down and no one adjust's.

Well that’s because MM is an idiot and has never been good at “adjusting”. Mix that with what was a bad defense last year? you get the results you saw last year when Rodgers went down. The Vikings can stay afloat with subpar QB play because they had an elite defense.

 

[bigbubbatd]

While the Browns struggled with DeFilippo being their offensive coordinator in 2015 it seems he did a terrific job as the Eagles quarterback coach over the past two seasons. I don't expect the Vikings offense to regress this year by any means.

It does seem like he did a great job but there has to be some question as to how much credit the two former NFL qbs who coached the team and the offense should get.

 

[Raptorman]

Well that’s because MM is an idiot and has never been good at “adjusting”. Mix that with what was a bad defense last year? you get the results you saw last year when Rodgers went down. The Vikings can stay afloat with subpar QB play because they had an elite defense.

So 12th in Yards and TDs, 2nd in completion percentage and 9th in QB rating is subpar. Good to know.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Well that’s because MM is an idiot and has never been good at “adjusting”. Mix that with what was a bad defense last year? you get the results you saw last year when Rodgers went down. The Vikings can stay afloat with subpar QB play because they had an elite defense.

More like MM got stuck with a chicken**** QB after Rodgers went down who wins the prize for Ted Thompson's worst pick ever and the biggest bust in Packer history.

Yet another awful attempt to create a smoke screen to scapegoat MM and defend that disgrace Hundley. Only thing MM did wrong was not kicking his *** off this team once the season ended.

Nothing is ever going to change my mind from the fact that it was ALL Hundley' fault we missed the playoffs last year. PERIOD!

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

R.I.P. Tony Sparano

 

[Mondio]

The Browns struggled. Let's take a look at who he had to work with.

QB. Johnny Manziel, Josh McCown, Austin Davis.
WR. Terrelle Pryor, Travis Benjamin, Andrew Hawkins, Brian Hartline.
TE Gary Barnidge,
RB. Isaiah Crowell, Duke Johnson.

Now. This group managed somehow to put 20 passing TD's, and 5 rushing TD's. 17.4 points per game. But if think for a moment that the Vikings Offensive starters are as bad as this group, yeah, they might take a step back. Keep in mind that 4 of those on that list are now out of football.

I think that kind of was his point. Considering he followed the statement of him being with the Browns when they struggled, He did great with the Eagles and even went so far as to say, and I'm going to try and quote this, "I don't expect the Vikings offense to regress this year by any means." I took that to mean, he thinks he's a fine coach and will do just fine with the Vikings. But I could be wrong. You seem to have found a reason to be defensive?

 

[Raptorman]

I think that kind of was his point. Considering he followed the statement of him being with the Browns when they struggled, He did great with the Eagles and even went so far as to say, and I'm going to try and quote this, "I don't expect the Vikings offense to regress this year by any means." I took that to mean, he thinks he's a fine coach and will do just fine with the Vikings. But I could be wrong. You seem to have found a reason to be defensive?

I should have quoted the original poster. I was addressing his thought more than Wimms. Actually it's wimms idea of him struggling with the Browns, but the OP idea of taking a step back.

 

[C-Lee]

Does this guy really lurk this forum just waiting for Viking related threads to be posted?

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[Raptorman]

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Nope, I'm here year round. This is just the slow time of the year.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Well that’s because MM is an idiot and has never been good at “adjusting”. Mix that with what was a bad defense last year? you get the results you saw last year when Rodgers went down. The Vikings can stay afloat with subpar QB play because they had an elite defense.

The Packers entered last season having to rely on elite quarterback play because the rest of the roster lacked talent. There was nothing McCarthy could have done to make up for the loss of Rodgers with Hundley obviously not up to the task.

As a side note, a lot of fans don't realize that Keenum performed at a very high level for the Vikings last season.

It does seem like he did a great job but there has to be some question as to how much credit the two former NFL qbs who coached the team and the offense should get.

It's probable DeFilippo benefitted from working with Pederson and ***** but in my opinion he deserves credit for developing Wentz and resurrecting Foles' career as well.

More like MM got stuck with a chicken**** QB after Rodgers went down who wins the prize for Ted Thompson's worst pick ever and the biggest bust in Packer history.

Hundley definitely struggled last season but being a fifth round pick he shouldn't be in consideration for Thompson's worst pick or let alone the biggest bust in franchise history.

I should have quoted the original poster. I was addressing his thought more than Wimms. Actually it's wimms idea of him struggling with the Browns, but the OP idea of taking a step back.

Actually I believe that DeFilippo is a talented coach who happened to be hired in a terrible situation with the Browns as their offense struggled because of a lack of talent in 2015.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

As a side note, a lot of fans don't realize that Keenum performed at a very high level for the Vikings last season.

Under-appreciated for sure. John Elway, who knows a thing or two about quarterback play in the NFL, was quick to pounce when the Vikings discarded the first quarterback to win a playoff game for Minnesota since Brett Favre.

Cousins has yet to win a playoff game in the NFL, so I'm a bit skeptical that he's an upgrade......Time will tell. If Cousins fails to get the Vikes into the playoffs after Kennum got them there, however, someone is going to have some 'splainin' to do...….

 

[C-Lee]

Nope, I'm here year round. This is just the slow time of the year.

Just messing with you.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Hundley definitely struggled last season but being a fifth round pick he shouldn't be in consideration for Thompson's worst pick or let alone the biggest bust in franchise history.

Struggled? That's the biggest understatement about his performance that could be made.

His footwork is bar none the worst I've ever seen.

No accuracy. None at all. Not once did he ever step up in the pocket and deliver a ball accurately. If you're that bad you are a bust and have no business playing in this league.

There is not one other pick Thompson ever made who stunk up Lambeau Field as bad as he has. Not one. He is a disgrace to this team, an embarrassment to football and needed to be cut already. GET HIM OUTTA HERE!

 

[HardRightEdge]

There's something about Kirk Cousins. I can't put my finger on it. Call it an eye test that says his numbers are eye wash: he's not a winner.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Struggled? That's the biggest understatement about his performance that could be made.

His footwork is bar none the worst I've ever seen.

No accuracy. None at all. Not once did he ever step up in the pocket and deliver a ball accurately. If you're that bad you are a bust and have no business playing in this league.

There is not one other pick Thompson ever made who stunk up Lambeau Field as bad as he has. Not one. He is a disgrace to this team, an embarrassment to football and needed to be cut already. GET HIM OUTTA HERE!

So, we're going balistic over a 3rd. string QB?

 

[Mondio]

Apparently

 

[OldSchool101]

One thing that always surprised me about Kirk Cousins is that he stayed just far enough under the radar being on the Redskins mediocre Offense. He’s a very consistent QB and can make you pay.
Some of you who think the Vikings would pay big $ for a losing QB? IMO you’re sadly mistaken. He came in and made RG3 look substandard quickly. You can’t look at his stats behind a substandard O line the last several years and say he’s not good. 3 consecutive 4,000 yard seasons and 9,000 yards over the past 2 seasons?
The Vikings currently have one of the deepest at talent QB rosters in the league. While I hope they struggle. I’m more worried about our own depth far more.
We’re very fortunate to be playing them early at Lambeau week 2. I’ll think they’ll be much tougher our second meeting.

 

[FaninColorado]

I always believed RG3 made himself look substandard... Cousins is good QB that has had to fling the ball alot due to the Skins being crappy. He can make the throws, but does throw picks a lot more often than liked. He will have a very difficult time having a better year than Keenum had last year.

The Vikings fans believe that they will be winning the Super Bowl. The pressure is already on Cousins to match expectations. It could become very large within the first 5 games with a very possible 2-3 start looming.

 

[Raptorman]

I always believed RG3 made himself look substandard... Cousins is good QB that has had to fling the ball alot due to the Skins being crappy. He can make the throws, but does throw picks a lot more often than liked. He will have a very difficult time having a better year than Keenum had last year.

The Vikings fans believe that they will be winning the Super Bowl. The pressure is already on Cousins to match expectations. It could become very large within the first 5 games with a very possible 2-3 start looming.

I just want to get this straight. Cousin had a better year last year then Keenum. But this year, with a better O-line, better RB and Better WR he won't do as well as Keenum did last year. Got it.

So what? 3400 yards passing, 21 TD? That's what he would have to regress too in order to be worse than Keenum was last year. Just wondering. How many QB's that have thrown for over 4,000 yards 3 years in a row all of sudden drop 15% in yardage?

Cousins number for the last 3 year. 67% completion percentage, 274 yards per game 4.7% TD and 2.1% INT

I'm sure he is going to regress big time.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Under-appreciated for sure. John Elway, who knows a thing or two about quarterback play in the NFL, was quick to pounce when the Vikings discarded the first quarterback to win a playoff game for Minnesota since Brett Favre.

While Keenum had a great season in 2017 I'm not convinced he will be able to repeat that performance. In my opinion the Broncos vastly overpaid for him.

Struggled? That's the biggest understatement about his performance that could be made.

His footwork is bar none the worst I've ever seen.

No accuracy. None at all. Not once did he ever step up in the pocket and deliver a ball accurately. If you're that bad you are a bust and have no business playing in this league.

There is not one other pick Thompson ever made who stunk up Lambeau Field as bad as he has. Not one. He is a disgrace to this team, an embarrassment to football and needed to be cut already. GET HIM OUTTA HERE!

It's true that Hundley performed at a terrible level last season but you have to lower your expectations for players selected in the fifth round. He isn't even the worst pick Thompson used on a quarterback as that would be drafting Brian Brohm in the second round of 2008 who ended up not throwing a single touchdown pass in the NFL.

Some of you who think the Vikings would pay big $ for a losing QB?
The Vikings currently have one of the deepest at talent QB rosters in the league. While I hope they struggle. I’m more worried about our own depth far more.

Well, currently Cousins has a losing career record at 26-30-1 and hasn't won a playoff game. Desperate teams make the mistake of overpaying for a potential franchise quarterback all the time.

The Vikings primary backup currently is Trevor Siemian with Kyle Sloter and Peter Pujals on the depth chart as well. That doesn't seem like a lot of talent behind Cousins.

I just want to get this straight. Cousin had a better year last year then Keenum. But this year, with a better O-line, better RB and Better WR he won't do as well as Keenum did last year. Got it.

So what? 3400 yards passing, 21 TD? That's what he would have to regress too in order to be worse than Keenum was last year. Just wondering. How many QB's that have thrown for over 4,000 yards 3 years in a row all of sudden drop 15% in yardage?

Cousins number for the last 3 year. 67% completion percentage, 274 yards per game 4.7% TD and 2.1% INT

I'm sure he is going to regress big time.

While Cousins might put up better total numbers you have to realize that Keenum was extremely effective last season. If you expect Cousins to have a more efficient season than Keenum had in 2017 you might be disappointed.