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Would you trade a 2021 first round pick & 2022 late round pick for Julio Jones

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 21.8%
  • No

    Votes: 43 78.2%

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Texans wr will fuller for a 3rd round pick, you cap scary guys should like this one. Fuller is a free agent after the season so he wouldn't have much negative impact on the salary cap. And when he leaves and signs a big free agent deal you recoup a compensatory pick in 2022...

Giants and everybody's favorite wr golden tate for a 5th. This would definitely help the team but not sure what his contract like

I would guess that the Texans would prefer to deal Cooks and/or Stills before they let Fuller go. They will likely try to keep him and pair him with Watson moving forward.
 

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I would guess that the Texans would prefer to deal Cooks and/or Stills before they let Fuller go. They will likely try to keep him and pair him with Watson moving forward.

Agreed 100% - Texans would be idiots to trade Fuller
 
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Odd statement about JJ Watt, what is the source of that information or how did you come to this conclusion? I have heard nothing but good things about the guy when it comes to his character.

I'm not necessarily doubting you, but I have never heard this take on him.

I was told that story by a kid who was on the bus everyday. Obviously this was years later when they were an adult when they told me. I have no reason to think they were lying. Especially because being from Milwaukee, and a bit older than the watt's I have always heard thru the grapevine that he wasn't the nicest guy. Always heard derek and tj were cool but jj not so much.

Obviously that was a long time ago and he may be the nicest guy in the world now I have no clue

But I only said it to say we need some mean on our defense. Specifically the dline. While Clark is awesome he doesn't strike me as mean at all on the field nor does either of the Smiths. Gary does to me seem like he's got that mean streak. We really never have it. Johnny jolly was maybe the last guy.

Either way as for the football part I think if healthy he could really be just what the defense needs. I do know that he'll do everything he can to win and the Packers need that on defense....theres more charter about it so I suppose it's possible
 
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I would guess that the Texans would prefer to deal Cooks and/or Stills before they let Fuller go. They will likely try to keep him and pair him with Watson moving forward.

That may be but it wasnt brought up by me it was brought up by cbs sports. Sounds like the Texans might just trade everyone they can
 

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I was told that story by a kid who was on the bus everyday. Obviously this was years later when they were an adult when they told me. I have no reason to think they were lying. Especially because being from Milwaukee, and a bit older than the watt's I have always heard thru the grapevine that he wasn't the nicest guy. Always heard derek and tj were cool but jj not so much.

Obviously that was a long time ago and he may be the nicest guy in the world now I have no clue

But I only said it to say we need some mean on our defense. Specifically the dline. While Clark is awesome he doesn't strike me as mean at all on the field nor does either of the Smiths. Gary does to me seem like he's got that mean streak. We really never have it. Johnny jolly was maybe the last guy.

Either way as for the football part I think if healthy he could really be just what the defense needs. I do know that he'll do everything he can to win and the Packers need that on defense....theres more charter about it so I suppose it's possible

Never heard that, but thanks for clarifying. He seems to be a pretty outstanding guy now, maybe he finally grew up.

I wouldn't be that opposed to a 3rd round pick for him and agree with you on the defense needs a spark of some kind, much like the Smith Brothers seemed to give them last season. However, with his injury history and more importantly the 1 1/2 years of contract debt we would pick up, I gotta pass on him.
 

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did you see the screen we tried? It was blown up before it started. think they're going to run screens if they shade a guy inside at the line and put someone right over the top? lanes are cut off. Now you're left with downfield and you don't have time.

We ran the ball at them well, we didn't do it enough. We fell behind and tried to get right back into it with a big play, we fell further behind. Then they forced our hand to pass and we were done because we couldn't block anything. I don't care who the receivers were.

anyway, i'm done. He costs too much, it would be a detriment to try and fit him here to the rest of the team and our future and Atlanta isn't going to take the cap hit to send him on his way.

Run more slants and screens is the stock constructive criticism of all Packer fans. In fact, if you do not suggest that the team run more slants and screens then I'm not sure that you can be a fan of this team.
 

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I was told that story by a kid who was on the bus everyday. Obviously this was years later when they were an adult when they told me. I have no reason to think they were lying. Especially because being from Milwaukee, and a bit older than the watt's I have always heard thru the grapevine that he wasn't the nicest guy. Always heard derek and tj were cool but jj not so much.

Obviously that was a long time ago and he may be the nicest guy in the world now I have no clue

But I only said it to say we need some mean on our defense. Specifically the dline. While Clark is awesome he doesn't strike me as mean at all on the field nor does either of the Smiths. Gary does to me seem like he's got that mean streak. We really never have it. Johnny jolly was maybe the last guy.

Either way as for the football part I think if healthy he could really be just what the defense needs. I do know that he'll do everything he can to win and the Packers need that on defense....theres more charter about it so I suppose it's possible

Except he might have been full of it or he might have had Watt mixed up with somebody else. I find it hard to believe that a Junior football player would have been riding the bus as opposed to having a ride every day if not his own vehicle.

I was in Law School when he was at Wisconsin, and by all accounts he was a really nice and easy going guy with the rest of the students.
 

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some kids are ********, as young kids and grow up to be just fine adults. some kids aren't really ********, they're just rougher than everyone else. Think they're having fun, except if you're not having fun, it's not much fun if you know what I mean.

I think he's a fine adult as far as I can tell. I just don't think he'd stay healthy at all and cost too much. I'm tired of big money guys being in the training room. he's a beast on the field, but his body wasn't built for that.
 

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That may be but it wasnt brought up by me it was brought up by cbs sports. Sounds like the Texans might just trade everyone they can

My guess is that they would sell the pieces that aren’t part of their future and keep the ones that are.

BOB screwed them up, but the cupboard isn’t bare. They have a franchise QB and he’s 25.

They also have a franchise LT. He’s overpaid, but there isn’t anything they can do about it. At least he’s good.

After those two, Fuller is the next most likely to build around in my opinion. He’s 26 and has a great connection with Watson.

They have to pay him, but if they sell off and cut lots of other pieces, I’m sure they could.
 

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But see you're incorrect about the injured part. In this thread I went thru the games he has missed in his career and it's not very many

I could care less how many games Julio missed when he was 27. How often has bee been hurt this year? A lot.
 

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I could care less how many games Julio missed when he was 27. How often has bee been hurt this year? A lot.

He does have more yards than Adams, but I guess he is probably injury prone too?

I get people saying that Julio has suffered more injuries than some players, but I don't know, I guess I look at his stats and can only imagine how much he could have helped the Packers out over the years, despite all his injuries.

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He does have more yards than Adams, but I guess he is probably injury prone too?

I get people saying that Julio has suffered more injuries than some players, but I don't know, I guess I look at his stats and can only imagine how much he could have helped the Packers out over the years, despite all his injuries.

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Yes, I would personally say that Adams has proven recently to be fairly injury prone.

And yes, I would absolutely take Julio from past seasons, soft tissue injuries and all. It would be insane not to.

But we're not talking about having Jones from 2014 to present. We're talking about trading high picks for a 31 year old.
 

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Dante Pettis is another interesting player than I've forgotten about because he doesn't play for a team that you'd predict would be a "seller."

He's very talented. Similar in style to Adams. But he has never been able to get on the same page with Shanahan.

Petals has enough connections with SF that he will know exactly what's up with him. Maybe a change of scenery would do him good.
 

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The Bucs just signed AB today. They just cleaned our clock and then bolstered a position that was already amongst the strongest in the NFL. That's a great win now move that puts them in their own tier in the NFC, IMO (provided he works out). Unless we get home field, or go out and make a splash on offense I don't think we can beat them.
 

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The Bucs just signed AB today. They just cleaned our clock and then bolstered a position that was already amongst the strongest in the NFL. That's a great win now move that puts them in their own tier in the NFC, IMO (provided he works out). Unless we get home field, or go out and make a splash on offense I don't think we can beat them.


That or his shenanigans derails a pretty decent team. As much as I want to see Gute upgrade the WR position, I'm fine that he didn't do it by signing AB.
 

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Reading on twitter today that some think NO may be fielding calls on Michael Thomas.

Adams and Thomas would look mighty nice together if there was no salary cap.
 

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Reading on twitter today that some think NO may be fielding calls on Michael Thomas.

Adams and Thomas would look mighty nice together if there was no salary cap.

To put a little more information (speculative) behind it:

https://nfltraderumors.co/report-so...el-thomas-could-be-available-for-right-price/

For a team with a lot of money and cap space, Thomas might be a reasonable contract, since it runs through 2024 and the Saints are paying all the upfront money. This season would be super cheap.

As it stands Thomas's would be due the following by his new team:
  • 2020: Prorated share of $1 M
  • 2021: $12.8 M (including WO bonus)
  • 2022: $15.8 M (inc. WO and ros. bon)
  • 2023: $16.45 M (same)
  • 2024: $19.7 M (same)
But as you point out, Packers might struggle next season to afford him at $12.8 M.

I think if the Packers really wanted to, they could pay Thomas, but that would sacrifice Jones and or Bahk. A luxury that they probably can't justify. Also, I can see the Saints wanting a ton of draft capital for him.
 

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To put a little more information (speculative) behind it:

https://nfltraderumors.co/report-so...el-thomas-could-be-available-for-right-price/

For a team with a lot of money and cap space, Thomas might be a reasonable contract, since it runs through 2024 and the Saints are paying all the upfront money. This season would be super cheap.

As it stands Thomas's would be due the following by his new team:
  • 2020: Prorated share of $1 M
  • 2021: $12.8 M (including WO bonus)
  • 2022: $15.8 M (inc. WO and ros. bon)
  • 2023: $16.45 M (same)
  • 2024: $19.7 M (same)
But as you point out, Packers might struggle next season to afford him at $12.8 M.

I think if the Packers really wanted to, they could pay Thomas, but that would sacrifice Jones and or Bahk. A luxury that they probably can't justify. Also, I can see the Saints wanting a ton of draft capital for him.

Ya, I guess how much do they want to get rid of him. Further, why? It sounds like some serious locker room stuff is going on.
 

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The Bucs just signed AB today. They just cleaned our clock and then bolstered a position that was already amongst the strongest in the NFL. That's a great win now move that puts them in their own tier in the NFC, IMO (provided he works out). Unless we get home field, or go out and make a splash on offense I don't think we can beat them.

Jesus freaking Christ do people put way to much stock into one ****ing game.

Never mind that they got railroaded by the Saints or that they're two whole weeks removed from losing to the Bears but only hey the Packers looked like trash for one week and forget that Seattle has a team so that means TB is a tier above everyone else because they just signed a nut job headcase of a WR that got shipped out of Pittsburgh because he couldn't get along with his QB or keep his mouth shut, got the boot from the very team that litterally just traded for him before playing a single game and then lasted one whole game in NE because he couldn't not be an ***.

Nope TB is easily the best team in the NFC hands down because they played much better then GB 1 week out 5 (Seattle doesn't exist)

Just ******** can people not remember anything past the last week of the season?
 

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To put a little more information (speculative) behind it:

https://nfltraderumors.co/report-so...el-thomas-could-be-available-for-right-price/

For a team with a lot of money and cap space, Thomas might be a reasonable contract, since it runs through 2024 and the Saints are paying all the upfront money. This season would be super cheap.

As it stands Thomas's would be due the following by his new team:
  • 2020: Prorated share of $1 M
  • 2021: $12.8 M (including WO bonus)
  • 2022: $15.8 M (inc. WO and ros. bon)
  • 2023: $16.45 M (same)
  • 2024: $19.7 M (same)
But as you point out, Packers might struggle next season to afford him at $12.8 M.

I think if the Packers really wanted to, they could pay Thomas, but that would sacrifice Jones and or Bahk. A luxury that they probably can't justify. Also, I can see the Saints wanting a ton of draft capital for him.

Honestly the biggest impediment to that for GB would be id assume they'd prefer to send him to an AFC team. A team like the Raiders i could see making that move if he really is on the market.

WRs are hard to guage trade value for. I'd guess what Buffalo gave up for Diggs would be the starting point
 

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Jesus freaking Christ do people put way to much stock into one ******* game.

Never mind that they got railroaded by the Saints or that they're two whole weeks removed from losing to the Bears but only hey the Packers looked like trash for one week and forget that Seattle has a team so that means TB is a tier above everyone else because they just signed a nut job headcase of a WR that got shipped out of Pittsburgh because he couldn't get along with his QB or keep his mouth shut, got the boot from the very team that litterally just traded for him before playing a single game and then lasted one whole game in NE because he couldn't not be an ***.

Nope TB is easily the best team in the NFC hands down because they played much better then GB 1 week out 5 (Seattle doesn't exist)

Just ******** can people not remember anything past the last week of the season?

Your expectations are too high.

I also seem to remember Antonio Brown being a crazy person.
 

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Jesus freaking Christ do people put way to much stock into one ******* game.

Never mind that they got railroaded by the Saints or that they're two whole weeks removed from losing to the Bears but only hey the Packers looked like trash for one week and forget that Seattle has a team so that means TB is a tier above everyone else because they just signed a nut job headcase of a WR that got shipped out of Pittsburgh because he couldn't get along with his QB or keep his mouth shut, got the boot from the very team that litterally just traded for him before playing a single game and then lasted one whole game in NE because he couldn't not be an ***.

Nope TB is easily the best team in the NFC hands down because they played much better then GB 1 week out 5 (Seattle doesn't exist)

Just ******** can people not remember anything past the last week of the season?

Look at their team! They've become New England in the NFC with arguably the best offense that Brady has had since the Moss days and their constant pressure forced Rodgers to make errors. It's taken them some time to gel, obviously, but the writing is on the wall man. You beat Rodgers by keeping him on the sideline with the run game - they have that with Jones, and oh ya, Fournette is healthy now. Their corps of WR's are the best in the NFL. Now they have Gronk heating up. We scored TEN points against them. They probably could have kept scoring too. Do you REALLY trust that Pettine can slow them down? To beat Brady you gotta hit him, we didn't produce ANY pressure. I'm not sure what's sadder, that the Packers got KO'd in Tampa or that some fans don't see the writing on the wall.
 

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Look at their team! They've become New England in the NFC with arguably the best offense that Brady has had since the Moss days and their constant pressure forced Rodgers to make errors. It's taken them some time to gel, obviously, but the writing is on the wall man. You beat Rodgers by keeping him on the sideline with the run game - they have that with Jones, and oh ya, Fournette is healthy now. Their corps of WR's are the best in the NFL. Now they have Gronk heating up. We scored TEN points against them. They probably could have kept scoring too. Do you REALLY trust that Pettine can slow them down? To beat Brady you gotta hit him, we didn't produce ANY pressure. I'm not sure what's sadder, that the Packers got KO'd in Tampa or that some fans don't see the writing on the wall.
In the interest of fairness, we gifted them two TDS, and we have seen that we were very much capable of scoring on them as evident in the first quarter. The problem is that Rodgers just had a meltdown.
 

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In the interest of fairness, we gifted them two TDS, and we have seen that we were very much capable of scoring on them as evident in the first quarter. The problem is that Rodgers just had a meltdown.

I don't think discounting what happened in the other 3 quarters is wise.

Blaming the QB is easier than admitting the Packers aren't as talented as Tampa Bay. This is SF all over again.
 
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