The offense must run through Jones and Dillon

[Schultz]

Not sure how the waiver order went, but if the Pack passed on Michael Carter (who I advocated for) then IMO they will pass on D, Cook.

 

[Poppa San]

I wouldn't mind bringing him in, with a few caveats.

I don't think any of the other playoff bound teams are looking for a RB, so offer him a spot on the practice squad. That'd give you this week to bring him up to speed and give him a few packages/plays to focus on.

For the Bears week, if Dillon has any lingering issues and Cook understands enough of the offense, elevate Cook to the active 53. You get a chance to evaluate him in a game, but you still have Jones and Wilson to do most of the heavy lifting.

Assuming we win, you either continue to promote him or sign him to the 53 for real if we have an injury and we need.

In short, he'd be cheap insurance.

In his place would you take a PS spot and pay on a team that might make the playoffs or on one near your home town that is expected to make a deep run?
Claim him and put him on the roster for the $300k/game. Let Dillon heal up. Taylor is what he is, a journeyman. As long as Cook can pick up blitzes I'd be ok with him.

 

[mradtke66]

In his place would you take a PS spot and pay on a team that might make the playoffs or on one near your home town that is expected to make a deep run?
Claim him and put him on the roster for the $300k/game. Let Dillon heal up. Taylor is what he is, a journeyman. As long as Cook can pick up blitzes I'd be ok with him.

Honestly? I don’t expect any of the other teams to be looking for a RB.

Similarly, we could offer him a big chunk of change (the equivalent 300k you mentioned ) to join the PS. Though I’m not as sure about the money rules anymore. There used to not be a limit, just had to fit in th cap.

Offering him a slot on the PS isn’t a money saving move, but a roster space saving move. With the promotion rules in place, this has gotten quite common. Sign to the PS with the understanding you WILL get brought up for at least 1 game.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Honestly? I don’t expect any of the other teams to be looking for a RB.

Similarly, we could offer him a big chunk of change (the equivalent 300k you mentioned ) to join the PS. Though I’m not as sure about the money rules anymore. There used to not be a limit, just had to fit in th cap.

Offering him a slot on the PS isn’t a money saving move, but a roster space saving move. With the promotion rules in place, this has gotten quite common. Sign to the PS with the understanding you WILL get brought up for at least 1 game.

I don't think it's about "offering" him, unless he clears waivers. If a team gets him off waivers, his salary is already set. I posted those numbers in a previous post.

I believe we will find out tomorrow if anyone claimed him. My guess is that the Packers are 19th in line on the waiver wire. However, the season is basically over for most of the teams ahead of them.

 

[Poppa San]

Honestly? I don’t expect any of the other teams to be looking for a RB.

au contraire Ravens may have a need plus 2 weeks to get him up to speed.
"Starter J.K. Dobbins was lost for the season to an Achilles tear in Week 1, though undrafted rookie Keaton Mitchell burst onto the scene midway through the campaign. ...
However, Mitchell suffered an ACL tear last month, sidelining him until 2024. The Ravens will therefore depend largely on Gus Edwards and Justice Hill at the RB spot in the postseason. Cook could attempt to carve out a limited role in Baltimore’s backfield while looking to boost his free agent stock in the process."

 

[milani]

Not sure how the waiver order went, but if the Pack passed on Michael Carter (who I advocated for) then IMO they will pass on D, Cook.

I believe they will work within their roster and PS the rest of the way. No additions.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Cook with a better O line and a QB named Rodgers would still have put up those numbers. And after watching the Vikings this year I can say they missed him. Even with Hall at QB a defense could not ignore DC.

Yeah I don't quite understand why the Queens wouldn't pay DC $7 or 8 mil, which seems like a bargain for him. They saw or knew something we never heard about.

 

[Heyjoe4]

au contraire Ravens may have a need plus 2 weeks to get him up to speed.
"Starter J.K. Dobbins was lost for the season to an Achilles tear in Week 1, though undrafted rookie Keaton Mitchell burst onto the scene midway through the campaign. ...
However, Mitchell suffered an ACL tear last month, sidelining him until 2024. The Ravens will therefore depend largely on Gus Edwards and Justice Hill at the RB spot in the postseason. Cook could attempt to carve out a limited role in Baltimore’s backfield while looking to boost his free agent stock in the process."

Wow, all those RB woes and they're still arguably the best team in football. Cook would be a good match there for Cook. He wouldn't have to save the day.

 

[mradtke66]

Ravens may have a need plus 2 weeks to get him up to speed.

Crud, forgot about them. Would be a solid landing spot for him.

 

[PikeBadger]

Wow, all those RB woes and they're still arguably the best team in football. Cook would be a good match there for Cook. He wouldn't have to save the day.

Yeah I don't quite understand why the Queens wouldn't pay DC $7 or 8 mil, which seems like a bargain for him. They saw or knew something we never heard about.

Yup, when dealing with free agents like Cook, it's wise to first ask yourself the question, why would 2 teams jettison him???

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Yeah I don't quite understand why the Queens wouldn't pay DC $7 or 8 mil, which seems like a bargain for him. They saw or knew something we never heard about.

I could be wrong, but basing any decision solely on what Cook did with the Jets, would be shortsighted. The Jets OL is a big weakness. They have given up the 2nd most sacks in the NFL and their run game has been less than average.

Cook is a 4 time Pro Bowler, who is proficient at running and receiving. In 2022 he had 1,468 all purpose yards and 10 TD's. Unless he has been playing injured or is currently injured or locker room cancer, I don't see why a team like Green Bay wouldn't pick him up. If nothing else, they would be preventing him from going to any of the other 6 NFC teams that they may face on their way to a Super Bowl and if they make it to the Super Bowl, the other 7 AFC teams that might grab him off waivers.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Sounds like either Cook cleared Waivers or the Ravens nabbed him. Either way, the Packers must have passed on picking him up off waivers.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Sounds like either Cook cleared Waivers or the Ravens nabbed him. Either way, the Packers must have passed on picking him up off waivers.

That's news. I didn't see the Ravens picked him up. That's one thing that hasn't gone well in Baltimore, the run game - well, not counting Jackson.

I see your point about nabbing him. Not much to lose really.

And I knew the Jets' OL was not good, but that's awful. They need to fix that before next September. Rodgers can't get away from rushers like he did years ago. Well, saw that week 1 this year.

 

[gopkrs]

That's news. I didn't see the Ravens picked him up. That's one thing that hasn't gone well in Baltimore, the run game - well, not counting Jackson.

I see your point about nabbing him. Not much to lose really.

And I knew the Jets' OL was not good, but that's awful. They need to fix that before next September. Rodgers can't get away from rushers like he did years ago. Well, saw that week 1 this year.

Gus Edwards is very good imho. He is strong and breaks tackles.

 

[PikeBadger]

I've been noticing significant disregard from unexpected quarters here for Dillon since his injury against the Giants. I'm not saying he should be our bell cow RB but I think his value as Jones' complement is not highly valued by some people here. I don't think it's as easy to replace Dillon adequately as some think.

Jones has never been the kind of back that should be counted on for 20 carries a game. At this point in his career, I don't think it's reasonable to expect even an average of 15 a game and get him to play 17 regular season games and still have anything in the tank for a playoff run. I still think Jones should be used more as a receiver and for gadgets than LaFleur showed this year.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I've been noticing significant disregard from unexpected quarters here for Dillon since his injury against the Giants. I'm not saying he should be our bell cow RB but I think his value as Jones' complement is not highly valued by some people here. I don't think it's as easy to replace Dillon adequately as some think.

Jones has never been the kind of back that should be counted on for 20 carries a game. At this point in his career, I don't think it's reasonable to expect even an average of 15 a game and get him to play 17 regular season games and still have anything in the tank for a playoff run. I still think Jones should be used more as a receiver and for gadgets than LaFleur showed this year.

Speaking for myself, I would be happy having Dillon back, but at the right price. I think his late season injury and his meager 3.4 yds/carry this season will hurt his chances of landing that big of a contract. With teams not putting as much value on RB's as they once did, he might land in the $2.5-3M per year range with minimal guaranteed money. What Gute will have to decide is at what price would it be better just to use one of his midround draft picks on a young and possible rising star.

As far as using Jones (or Dillon for that matter) more for the passing game and gadget plays, I think with the stable of quicker young WR's and TE's this season, MLF and Love shied away from using the backs as much as Rodgers did for short passes.

 

[longtimefan]

With dillion in and Jones out the offense sputtered.

With Jones in and dillion out offense did very good

Its an easy choice

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

With dillion in and Jones out the offense sputtered.

With Jones in and dillion out offense did very good

Its an easy choice

I doubt anyone would argue for keeping Dillon and getting rid of Jones, that would be a big mistake.

The question is, do the Packers want to resign Dillon or just let him walk in Free Agency? I don't view Dillon as a quality starter, so resigning him should be on the cheap and done knowing that you are still going to need a quality 3rd RB, probably through the draft, one that is currently on the roster or via free agency.

Now to your point, if Jones's health is a factor, then that 3rd back has to be a solid backup. Dillon isn't a starting back, but he and a back that plays more like Jones, might work if Jones goes down.

 

[milani]

I've been noticing significant disregard from unexpected quarters here for Dillon since his injury against the Giants. I'm not saying he should be our bell cow RB but I think his value as Jones' complement is not highly valued by some people here. I don't think it's as easy to replace Dillon adequately as some think.

Jones has never been the kind of back that should be counted on for 20 carries a game. At this point in his career, I don't think it's reasonable to expect even an average of 15 a game and get him to play 17 regular season games and still have anything in the tank for a playoff run. I still think Jones should be used more as a receiver and for gadgets than LaFleur showed this year.

Surprised that he got through the last 5 unscathed. If we did that every week he certainly would get hurt.

 

[PikeBadger]

With dillion in and Jones out the offense sputtered.

With Jones in and dillion out offense did very good

Its an easy choice

I agree that Jones is better and needs to stay.

 

[PikeBadger]

I doubt anyone would argue for keeping Dillon and getting rid of Jones, that would be a big mistake.

The question is, do the Packers want to resign Dillon or just let him walk in Free Agency? I don't view Dillon as a quality starter, so resigning him should be on the cheap and done knowing that you are still going to need a quality 3rd RB, probably through the draft, one that is currently on the roster or via free agency.

Now to your point, if Jones's health is a factor, then that 3rd back has to be a solid backup. Dillon isn't a starting back, but he and a back that plays more like Jones, might work if Jones goes down.

Agree. The third back next year should not be Taylor. I don't think he should even be the 4th back next year.

 

[longtimefan]

I doubt anyone would argue for keeping Dillon and getting rid of Jones, that would be a big mistake.

The question is, do the Packers want to resign Dillon or just let him walk in Free Agency? I don't view Dillon as a quality starter, so resigning him should be on the cheap and done knowing that you are still going to need a quality 3rd RB, probably through the draft, one that is currently on the roster or via free agency.

Now to your point, if Jones's health is a factor, then that 3rd back has to be a solid backup. Dillon isn't a starting back, but he and a back that plays more like Jones, might work if Jones goes down.

He walks

 

[milani]

I agree that Jones is better and needs to stay.

But he has to be supported with another back. He has a lot of mileage on those legs.

 

[longtimefan]

But he has to be supported with another back. He has a lot of mileage on those legs.

They can draft another or pick up someone. I've seen enough of dillion

 

[Pkrjones]

If GB is going to have a 230+ lb running back they need to be a hammer. Dillon was big & occassionally pushed the pile but couldn't get that tough yard on short yardage.

Draft a young, hard runner with a top 100 pick, and find a 240+ lb'er UDFA as #3. Use Jones for 12-15 touches/game, mix in the rookie, & use #3 for short yardage & ST plays.