The Jordan Love Era Begins

Will Jordan Love be 3 in a row for the Packers?

  • Yes, he's a FHOF Player

    Votes: 4 5.6%
  • He'll be pro bowl good but not FHOF good

    Votes: 20 27.8%
  • He'll be average

    Votes: 12 16.7%
  • No, he'll be a below average bust

    Votes: 4 5.6%
  • Too early to Tell

    Votes: 32 44.4%

  • Total voters
    72
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That’s hilarious! Love me Some D.C.!

You can tell there’s certain media personalities with an uncontrollable prejudice towards the Packers. It must be hard watching your team get whooped for near 30 seasons straight, so I get it though.
 
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my biggest concern with Jordan Love coming into the NFL was:
1. Is the game too big for him?
2. Would he crumble under pressure?

The NFL has by default eliminated some great, drafted QB’s very quickly. From what I’m seeing, I don’t think Jordan will be in that group. I think he’s going to be an average starting QB1 very quickly.
 

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After sitting behind Rodgers, and getting time to learn the game without being under pressure, Love is either ready to run the packers offense, or he's going to fail, and they'll end up throwing QBs at the job until one sticks.

I hate the latter, because it dooms a team to a long time being at best, average.
 
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After sitting behind Rodgers, and getting time to learn the game without being under pressure, Love is either ready to run the packers offense, or he's going to fail, and they'll end up throwing QBs at the job until one sticks.
Just watching him he’s responded well to that first start @KC. It only made him better and really he wasn’t as bad in that game as some made him out to be. Not for a college Junior who lost his Rookie season to Covid anyway. Very few new QB’s can go on the road in their very first start and come out smelling like roses.

I always compared that to Rodgers first start of the season @ The Saints (played in Jacksonville) He was every bit as bad as Jordan was from every possible angle of evaluation. Even a seasoned, HOF QB doesn’t just blow up the league in his first start. Had we used that 1 Saints game as our primary grading tool? Rodgers wouldn’t be in the league, which is ridiculous thinking.

Not to mention how many times did we start below .500 after several games with one of the best QB’s to play the game. It just shows how what Murphy said about using the Half season marker is probably a good sample size.
 
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After sitting behind Rodgers, and getting time to learn the game without being under pressure, Love is either ready to run the packers offense, or he's going to fail, and they'll end up throwing QBs at the job until one sticks.

I hate the latter, because it dooms a team to a long time being at best, average.
Agree. However, the time that it will take to really know what Jordan will be able to do with this opportunity, is an unknown variable. I don't doubt that the Packers think he has the potential to be an above average QB, but how does that playout now in real games? I think some fans will assume this to be "right away" or at least halfway into the season. While Jordan has been learning behind one of the best for 3 years, there is still no substitute for real NFL games. Which is one thing Jordan does not have a lot of experience with. He also will have a very young group of WR's and TE's, so that factors into his learning curve.

I don't doubt that the Packers feel Jordan has the tools to potentially be a really good QB, now he just needs to prove it on the field. It might take the entire season to get a really good feel on where his future is headed.
 

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Just watching him he’s responded well to that first start @KC. It only made him better and really he wasn’t as bad in that game as some made him out to be. Not for a college Junior who lost his Rookie season to Covid anyway. Very few new QB’s can go on the road in their very first start and come out smelling like roses.

I always compared that to Rodgers first start of the season @ The Saints (played in Jacksonville) He was every bit as bad as Jordan was from every possible angle of evaluation. Even a seasoned, HOF QB doesn’t just blow up the league in his first start. Had we used that 1 Saints game as our primary grading tool? Rodgers wouldn’t be in the league, which is ridiculous thinking.

Not to mention how many times did we start below .500 after several games with one of the best QB’s to play the game. It just shows how what Murphy said about using the Half season marker is probably a good sample size.
And that Chiefs game was very winnable if our ST does its job.
 

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It just shows how what Murphy said about using the Half season marker is probably a good sample size.
I wish Murphy wouldn't have said that. Now some fans, as well as the media are going to use that as the absolute drop dead date for Love's future to be known. While I could care less about those expectations, what they will do is fan the flames of discussion as to what the future holds for Love and the Packers. That kind of pressure, midseason, is not what Jordan will need.
 

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I wish Murphy wouldn't have said that. Now some fans, as well as the media are going to use that as the absolute drop dead date for Love's future to be known. While I could care less about those expectations, what they will do is fan the flames of discussion as to what the future holds for Love and the Packers. That kind of pressure, midseason, is not what Jordan will need.

Exactly. Was a VERY dumb thing for him to say. What if Bakh and Jenkins both go down....what if Watson and Doubs both go down....there is TONS of roads which could end up being taken that could leave any educated person (not a fan) left with a lot of what ifs and unknowns on precisely what Love might be.
 
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I wish Murphy wouldn't have said that. Now some fans, as well as the media are going to use that as the absolute drop dead date for Love's future to be known. While I could care less about those expectations, what they will do is fan the flames of discussion as to what the future holds for Love and the Packers. That kind of pressure, midseason, is not what Jordan will need.
I see what you’re saying. I really don’t care what other fans think though I care what our team thinks. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with saying 8 games gives us a better idea how we’re progressing at QB. I think that’s just being truthful and imo these QB’s are under the microscope ALL the time. If they can’t handle that pressure they’re in the wrong business.

It’s almost like we’ve gotten to the point we can’t answer a question in the media because they’ll overreact. Let them continue to overreact, if I recall they don’t write Jordan’s paycheck. I also don’t think anyone internally is making any grand proclamations after just 8 games, it’s just an evaluation. When people tell me I’ll have a 6 month eval on my new job I don’t panic. I’m confident in myself and I’ll be asking for a pay raise!

Maybe I’m a strange bird though. I just am not going to micro analyze everything these guys say. Do we not want them to answer questions at all? Obviously not. This is minor stuff. Jordan’s play will speak for itself imo
 
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It’s almost like we’ve gotten to the point we can’t answer a question in the media because they’ll overreact.
Your damned if you do and damned if you don't. As fans we crave info and because of that, the media is willing to "sell us" that info, whether it is correct or incorrect info. So the people that info is being sought from, Murphy in this case, instead of giving a "I don't know the exact answer to that", tries to sound smart and gives out an answer, that is very vague, but nobody will pick up on that vagueness, all they will hear is "half a season".

In the case of Murphy, I would have just preferred hearing the "obvious", at least to me. That would be "We like what we have seen from Jordan and time will tell, just what kind of QB he will turn out to be."

Instead, he put a pretend time table on it and then tied it into Rodgers progression, another thing he shouldn't have done.....IMO.

Green Bay Packers president/CEO Mark Murphy says it will probably take “at least half a season” for the team to know what it has in new starting quarterback Jordan Love. Murphy noted the parallels to 2008, when Aaron Rodgers took over after backing up Hall of Famer Brett Favre for three seasons. Murphy said, via Rob Demovsky of ESPN.com. “And I think even though we ended up with a losing record that year, but we saw enough of Aaron to know that we had something special.”
 
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Your damned if you do and damned if you don't. As fans we crave info and because of that, the media is willing to "sell us" that info, whether it is correct or incorrect info. So the people that info is being sought from, Murphy in this case, instead of giving a "I don't know the exact answer to that", tries to sound smart and gives out an answer, that is very vague, but nobody will pick up on that vagueness, all they will hear is "half a season".

In the case of Murphy, I would have just preferred hearing the "obvious", at least to me. That would be "We like what we have seen from Jordan and time will tell, just what kind of QB he will turn out to be."

Instead, he put a pretend time table on it and then tied it into Rodgers progression, another thing he shouldn't have done.....IMO.

Green Bay Packers president/CEO Mark Murphy says it will probably take “at least half a season” for the team to know what it has in new starting quarterback Jordan Love. Murphy noted the parallels to 2008, when Aaron Rodgers took over after backing up Hall of Famer Brett Favre for three seasons. Murphy said, via Rob Demovsky of ESPN.com. “And I think even though we ended up with a losing record that year, but we saw enough of Aaron to know that we had something special.”
Yes. Probably A good lawyer would not have time stamped his answer. I can see that. He could just say the obvious that we’ll know better about our QB later in the season. Etc.

You know what funny is that guys like Colin Cowturd are already apologizing for Jordan having snippets of success. Now he’s saying “so he’s playing good.. but isn’t that what he should be doing? Gosh he’s got like 3.5 years under Aaron he should be playing good”

I can already smell how these guys in the media will spin their predictions of our Demise if we have any success. Jordan just can’t win with them regardless of how he plays good or bad. Imo short of Winning a SB year 1 he’s going to be marginalized. I’m beginning to think they are jealous :cry:

Funny part is half the time I never hear the question reporters ask I just hear an unintelligible mumble. It’s like a 1 sided trivia game. I can hear the answer perfectly though. Maybe I need my ear wax cleaned out or bc I’ve got selective hearing. Maybe I don’t want to hear them maybe that’s it.
 
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I'm fine with it. He's right, it will take about a half year for them to know what they really have. Even if it's not all great, they'll know if he can read and react and just need more experience. Know if he can process info between film and game speed. Know how he performs under pressure, after being hit, bad plays, how he processes coaching works with others etc.

Fans don't matter, they just think they do. :) Those that will over react to what he said would have anyway. They'll be reacting week 1 1st possession. They'll find anything and it never changes.
 

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Funny part is half the time I never hear the question reporters ask I just hear an unintelligible mumble. It’s like a 1 sided trivia game. I can hear the answer perfectly though. Maybe I need my ear wax cleaned out or bc I’ve got selective hearing. Maybe I don’t want to hear them maybe that’s it.
Sometimes we hear what we want to hear, at least I know I have been guilty of that. We live in a world where it seems that "information" is just a click away. Unfortunately, the accuracy of much of what we find online, isn't worth the paper it isn't printed on.

I can't tell you how many times I have done a Google search, saw the first or second thing pop up, click on it and say "ah ha, exactly what I was looking for". 3 minutes of reading and I suddenly realizing I am reading an article from 12 years ago.
 
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Sometimes we hear what we want to hear, at least I know I have been guilty of that. We live in a world where it seems that "information" is just a click away. Unfortunately, the accuracy of much of what we find online, isn't worth the paper it isn't printed on.

I can't tell you how many times I have done a Google search, saw the first or second thing pop up, click on it and say "ah ha, exactly what I was looking for". 3 minutes of reading and I suddenly realizing I am reading an article from 12 years ago.
Thank you for that. I mean the reporters don’t think to put the mic near their mouth it’s just weird. That’s like reporting 101.
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Thank you for that. I mean the reporters don’t think to put the mic near their mouth it’s just weird. That’s like reporting 101.
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I know what you mean when it comes to the press conferences. Too often you have to assume what was asked, by the answer given, because you can't hear the question that was asked. You would think that in this day and age, as well as the NFL being a billion dollar industry, they would come up with a solution to it. Maybe they are protecting us?

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Week 9 we play the Rams. Mark it down as the most important game of Jordan's career. We will all know after the game.
 

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Your damned if you do and damned if you don't. As fans we crave info and because of that, the media is willing to "sell us" that info, whether it is correct or incorrect info. So the people that info is being sought from, Murphy in this case, instead of giving a "I don't know the exact answer to that", tries to sound smart and gives out an answer, that is very vague, but nobody will pick up on that vagueness, all they will hear is "half a season".

In the case of Murphy, I would have just preferred hearing the "obvious", at least to me. That would be "We like what we have seen from Jordan and time will tell, just what kind of QB he will turn out to be."

Instead, he put a pretend time table on it and then tied it into Rodgers progression, another thing he shouldn't have done.....IMO.

Green Bay Packers president/CEO Mark Murphy says it will probably take “at least half a season” for the team to know what it has in new starting quarterback Jordan Love. Murphy noted the parallels to 2008, when Aaron Rodgers took over after backing up Hall of Famer Brett Favre for three seasons. Murphy said, via Rob Demovsky of ESPN.com. “And I think even though we ended up with a losing record that year, but we saw enough of Aaron to know that we had something special.”
And Rodgers took the helm of a team that was 13-3 and just barely lost the NFC Championship game. Love is leading a unit that finished 8-9 and sitting home in January. If we are anywhere near that he will gain a ton of respect.
 

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Week 9 we play the Rams. Mark it down as the most important game of Jordan's career. We will all know after the game.

That will be week 1 ....

Week 1 will be the mother of all over reaction games by Packer and Bear fans. The losing team will feel that they are not on the right path with their QB and will need to find someone else in 2024 and the rest of the season is doom and gloom and the winning team will be strutting around declaring the dominance of years will continue or has ended. The clown shoes of the sports world media will have their usual stupid takes ramped up if the Packers lose.
 

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That will be week 1 ....

Week 1 will be the mother of all over reaction games by Packer and Bear fans. The losing team will feel that they are not on the right path with their QB and will need to find someone else in 2024 and the rest of the season is doom and gloom and the winning team will be strutting around declaring the dominance of years will continue or has ended. The clown shoes of the sports world media will have their usual stupid takes ramped up if the Packers lose.
After Rodgers first 2 starts back in 2008 the Packers were 2-0. It looked promising. Next thing you know we finish 6-10 with 2 of those wins over the 0-16 Lions.
 

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