Rodgers still needs a solid veteran receiver along with Davante Adams. Think that would make Aaron happier. Nothing against the receivers this season; but there were a lot of catches that could have been made. Think that a new Defensive Coordinator would be a good thing too.
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I understand the fumble by Jones could be classified as the offense handing the Bucs seven points but I'm sorry the defense is to blame for the touchdown given up before halftime after Rodgers' interception.
While the unit created three turnovers the offense received the ball in their own territory on all of them, it was more or less like the Bucs had punted the ball on those occasions.
Fact is that our defense gave up more points than its season average as well.
There was absolutely no reason to be aggressive on that play though.
So it is your position that the Offense handing the ball to TB at midfield right before that touchdown, was not a factor in TB scoring before the half?
Its also your position that GB's offense being flat in the 4th quarter despite multiple chances through those interceptions was also not a factor?
I agree that Pettine should have been more conservative there, and that the score should be on his head. But I also can see the rationale for the alignment used, it was a mistake to be clear but I can see what he was likely thinking.
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Of course Rodgers throwing an interception was a factor but there shouldn't be any doubt the defense is mostly to blame for the score.
Once again, you're right that the offense not scoring on the ensuing possessions after those turnovers contributed to the Packers losing but there's no reason to act as if they received the ball in great field position on any of them either.
To go 3-and-out on 2 of those possessions, with our historically great offense, was a big factor in our loss.
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Just getting back to this thread.
I heard some media people talking about this exact play. Once again, eyes are deceiving. Look at Rodgers body position and his arm, he was pump faking and not in a great position to run. Also, look at the 2 Tampa Bay Players behind him, Suh at around the 10 yardline, as well as the 2 at the Goal line. The consensus seemed to be that while it appeared Rodgers had a clear path to run the TD in, he wouldn't have gotten there.
Due to how important Rodgers is to the team, I really don't want him taking unnecessary hits. I think this potentially could be classified as one of those situations.
This is all speculation..
I dont think he would got a td.. But could he have been able to get to the side line near the 4? I think so
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I also don't believe he makes it in...but I also believe MLF goes for it if he gets it inside the 5. I don't want Rodgers to take chances either with hits, but it was the NFCCG...at some point you sacrifice and do the Elway windmill if needed.
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I just went back and watched the play several times. That was JPP (Jason Pierre-Paul) of Tampa around the 10 yard line. I stand corrected on my last post, Rodgers might have had a legit shot at the corner of the endzone. It would have been close, but a dive and a stretch, maybe. He may have felt defenders were closer than they actually were? Devin White and Grimes were in the EZ and probably would have been the guys to try and meet him at the EZ if AR tucks and runs.
I am looking at a replay of this 3rd down for the first time. If he ran, he still could have pump faked and had them leaning in the wrong direction, and maybe he gets close. He had no problem pumping and running the previous week, so why force a throw in traffic this time, I don't know why. Sad.
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Hard to know exactly what he saw, felt or what was going through his mind. One thing I can almost guarantee, he knew it was 3rd down and assumed that he had one more shot at it. I would have to think that MLF and maybe Hackett were about the only ones in the stadium that weren't shocked that the FG team came trotting out after the incompletion.
because last week he could pump fake someone right at the LOS and he was right there. didn't have too far to get to the endzone. This time he would have been pump faking people at the goal line while he was still beyond the 8. It may give them pause for a 2nd, but they were all faster than he was. He couldn't run straight in, a LInebacker would have gotten him, and if he flattens it to the pylon like I think he'd have to, now he's covering a lot more ground than that DB who's faster in the endzone. Plus I'm not sure he outruns JPP either.
Either way, Adams had position on defenders in the endzone and a low throw at the goal line results in a TD quite often for teams, ours included. It just didn't this time. Throwing it wasn't the worst option.
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Every play that didn't go the Packers way was a factor in their loss. There shouldn't be any doubt the most egregious were giving up the touchdown shortly before halftime and Jones' fumble deep in our own territory.
That's pure speculation on your part. It's entirely possible MLF would have kicked the field goal no matter what.
and just so people know. this isn’t a knock on Rodgers ..this is coaching and players .
Were the wrong plays called???? What about the Players?? didn’t they execute??
But a lot here say...blame only the defense
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As I said earlier. It was a complete team loss from MLF to the 4th stringers. Everyone contributed to that mess.
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*Phone rings...Jets are calling: Hey Gute, so we want Aaron, BEFORE YOU SAY NO this is our offer - Our 22nd pick and 34th pick this draft, 1st in 2022 and a 1st in 2023.
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No chance I take that.
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I don't think its out of the question that if the right deal came along, Gute would be tempted and at least think about it. I mean if Jacksonville called and offered the #1 pick, as well as their their pick from the Rams (#25), their 2nd round (#33) and next years first round, Gute might be tempted. Landing Trevor Lawrence might make that hard to refuse.
"Problem" is, the Packers have a potential Super Bowl team with Rodgers, without him, they will be playing .500 ball at best for the next several years. I don't see that changing, even by drafting Lawrence.
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Trevor Lawrence would be tempting. Nobody else in this draft is, imo.
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I'll be honest if say Jets offered Gute both their first rounders this year and of course like two more years of 1st round picks....you could instantly afford to sign Linsley or Jones most likely, doubtful both if I understand trades and contracts correct...but Gute can arguably walk away with the best Tackle in the draft he likes at 2....be the answer post-Bahk era and hold down RT in the meantime. Also at #22, he would still be able to nab an instant starting CB most likely OR he could go WR...and we still have our #29 to play with (trade back for draft capital in 2nd and later...or use)
Now granted, that's a lot of first round salaries to absorb in a few years, but rookie contracts on solid players all with 5th year options is a bargain if you hit.
However, this is all just for fun hypothetical that honestly as like .005% of happening - IF Rodgers hadn't literally proved he is still one of the baaaaadest men in the game, I could see it.
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In all seriousness the chance or discussion for a Rodgers departure or trade will truly only be a possibility as you state next year.
