State of our former QB, Aaron Rodgers

[rmontro]

Oh I think that Sophomore slump is a real thing. Rodgers got knocked around a little in 2009. Then you couple Love’s injury and taking until after the Bye to get his legs under him. I think it wasn’t a great season, but Jordan is a competitor and he rebounded down the stretch with respectable numbers.

I agree, mostly. But on the other hand, the Packers lost their last three games. Right when you want them to pick things up, the wheels kind of fell off at the end there.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I agree, mostly. But on the other hand, the Packers lost their last three games. Right when you want them to pick things up, the wheels kind of fell off at the end there.

Interesting point. The last few games of the season showed a team with little inspiration. I don't get that. A player shouldn't need to be "coached up" for games leading into the playoffs, much less the playoffs.

And it was a complete reversal of the team from a season before, the team that thrashed Dallas at home and came very, very close to getting to the NFCCG.

Hopefully this season is a return to that earlier form.

 

[rmontro]

Interesting point. The last few games of the season showed a team with little inspiration. I don't get that. A player shouldn't need to be "coached up" for games leading into the playoffs, much less the playoffs.

And it was a complete reversal of the team from a season before, the team that thrashed Dallas at home and came very, very close to getting to the NFCCG.

Hopefully this season is a return to that earlier form.

Yeah, that's why it was so aggravating. From Rodgers' "run the table" and "R-E-L-A-X", the team usually got stronger as the season went on. Until they inevitably laid a giant egg in the NFCCG.

 

[OldSchool101]

I agree, mostly. But on the other hand, the Packers lost their last three games. Right when you want them to pick things up, the wheels kind of fell off at the end

While that’s true, we lost to the SB Champs at their house. We actually finished the regular season 5-3, including the only shutout Win of the season 34-0. I don’t put too much emphasis on week 18 either.

 

[rmontro]

While that’s true, we lost to the SB Champs at their house. We actually finished the regular season 5-3, including the only shutout Win of the season 34-0.

Yeah, the Saints stunk, but still I think it was like the only shutout of the season in the NFL. Or at least the first. I was getting some high hopes around that time, since the defense was looking so good. But then they went flat and never won another game.

There have been a lot of seasons where we lost in the playoffs to the NFC team that eventually went to the Super Bowl, whether they won or lost. Just another indication that we couldn't get over the hump.

 

[OldSchool101]

Yeah, the Saints stunk, but still I think it was like the only shutout of the season in the NFL. Or at least the first. I was getting some high hopes around that time, since the defense was looking so good. But then they went flat and never won another game.

There have been a lot of seasons where we lost in the playoffs to the NFC team that eventually went to the Super Bowl, whether they won or lost. Just another indication that we couldn't get over the hump.

Sure. I don’t think we were SB ready. Let’s face it though, Philly was peaking and they had a super well rounded team at peak performance also. Also the NFC was the class of the league with multiple teams vying for a 1 seed.
Recall too we laid down week 18. Malik was our leading passer. Heath our leading receiver etc. I wouldn’t put much weight in a walk off FG against our backups. Now Philly they were physical and beat us up.

I like what we did recently on OL it’s an upgrade. We still don’t compare anywhere close to Rodgers 2nd season Roster wise. We need a WR badly after losing Watson, we need another incumbent to rise either at TE (Musgrave) or WR (Wicks etc). If that happens we could be looking at a 12-13 Win team in a good Conference. It’d be a bonus if Lloyd gets healthy and pops, which is very possible imo. IMO he’s a player that will translate very quickly, it took him 1 rush to crack 10 yards. Just wait until he gets involved in the screen game he’s like Jacobs in space.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Holy Schnikees!!!

The Packers are signing Aaron Rodgers to a 3 year deal!!

Make note of THIS date, April 1st, in history!

 

[Thirteen Below]

The QB position being at the forefront and in cases where the a franchise QB of 15+ years and Rodgers Stature? I think he’s an exception. Now that does not imply we go wild and say he’s involved in every minute detail, but I think it’s good business to reward a seasoned player of Aaron’s caliber with plans that are critical to that QB position and his success.

I see it the same way. At the time, it was known that Belichik sought input from Brady on some personnel decisions, and I think Rodgers felt he was entitled to the same consideration. I think it would have been a nice gesture on Gutekunst's part to give in a little - if for no other reason than to show Rodgers that he was respected, and keep him happy in his role.

I can't seem to find the post now, but someone (Joe?) mentioned that Rodgers' resentment went back at least as far as 2018, when they cut Nelson in March. I'd forgotten that, but I remember now that he also was angry that they let Alex van Pelt, his quarterback coach, go that same off-season. He felt that he should have been at least peripherally brought into the conversations.

So by the time Love was drafted, Rodgers had been simmering for at least 2 full seasons. We know that he was also unhappy that he wasn't given any real weapons to work with, and from some things he's said, it sounds as though he had offered/asked on a number of occasions to have input on personnel decisions - including actively helping to recruit free agents. According to him, he was rejected each time, until he finally gave up.

So you add all that up, it's easy to see why (by 2020, 21, 22) he really wasn't happy here, and felt alienated from management. Whether or not that was reasonable of him, different people will have different opinions, but at least it does help understand how and why things came to a head.

 

[SudsMcBucky]

Holy Schnikees!!!

The Packers are signing Aaron Rodgers to a 3 year deal!!

Make note of THIS date, April 1st, in history!

You can come up with something better than this, can't you?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

You can come up with something better than this, can't you?

Well I knew that nobody would believe that Brett Favre was coming out of retirement to play for the Packers, but was surprised to hear that the Jets signed him!

 

[rmontro]

Holy Schnikees!!!
The Packers are signing Aaron Rodgers to a 3 year deal!!
Make note of THIS date, April 1st, in history!

This sort of thing is why I like to stay hidden under the bed on April 1st. But so far today I've seen all the jokes coming.

 

[Heyjoe4]

This sort of thing is why I like to stay hidden under the bed on April 1st. But so far today I've seen all the jokes coming.

Just speaking for me, this is one advantage of being older - I've seen most everything when it comes to April 1st and it's hard(er) to get one past me. I didn't get caught today, but then again, no one tried. Yet.

 

[rmontro]

Just speaking for me, this is one advantage of being older - I've seen most everything when it comes to April 1st and it's hard(er) to get one past me. I didn't get caught today, but then again, no one tried. Yet.

As I said, normally I spend the entire day under the bed, so I don't have to experience the jokes.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Best one I've seen is our local library's announcement of their new "Check Out A Chicken" program, to address the rising price of eggs.

Thanks to the generous support of some local poultry farmers, we’ve added a brood of laying hens to our collection, and you can check one out and be on your way to serving those omelets, crepes, casseroles and deviled eggs your family has been missing. Use the link below to register for the program, and you will be contacted when a hen is available for you to take home for a 14-day period, enough time to provide just over a dozen eggs for your family. Limit one hen per checkout; there are no renewals.

You are responsible for returning them in good condition. You MAY NOT cook or consume your chicken! All chickens must be returned to the library during regular hours
DO NOT leave chickens in the book drop!

 

[Schultz]

As far as sports go the Sports Illustrated Sidd Finch article has to be the best ever.

 

[Thirteen Below]

As far as sports go the Sports Illustrated Sidd Finch article has to be the best ever.

That was classic. The Mets finally had to give it up when both Senator Patrick Moynihan Commissioner Peter Ueberroth called and demanded to know whether this story was for real.

I know we have a mature audience here, but for any member who doesn't know what we're talking about on account of being born too recently...

"Lane calls me up and says, I got a baseball story involving the New York Mets," Berton told cllct. "He goes, Yeah, it's about this guy whose got a great fastball, 160-some mile an hour fastball. All he's got is it a French horn and a food bowl and a rug.

"And I'm thinking, 'This is too crazy. But I'm like, well, it is the Mets, yeah?' ...

Legend of Sidd Finch lives on 40 years later | cllct

Sports Illustrated made up a Mets phenom in epic 1985 April Fool's joke

www.cllct.com

 

[Thirteen Below]

“Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives."

Oh, the drama.... the drama......

PITTSBURGH -- The Pittsburgh Steelers still don't have a deal in place for Aaron Rodgers. The 41-year-old quarterback is going into his fifth week of contemplation between signing with the Steelers, waiting for another team, or choosing to retire. And at this point, it appears players are getting upset....

"I would fairly tell you, T.J. Watt is probably getting a little sick of waiting on the quarterback question as well... " According to Pelissero, the Steelers have more than one player who's not thrilled about the team's current saga.

"There are other people certainly in the organization, in the locker room, who are just going, 'What are we doing?' We're back for offseason workouts in ten days. We're coming up on the draft. What is the plan? At a time when, if you're a player, you feel like we can win."

He hasn't even agreed to pl;ay for them yet,. and a;ready he's found a way to p[iss off the locker room.

This is epic... just epic. Classic Rodgers.

Aaron Rodgers Causing Issues Between Steelers, T.J. Watt?

PITTSBURGH -- The Pittsburgh Steelers still don't have a deal in place for Aaron Rodgers. The 41-year-old quarterback is going into his fifth week of contemplat

www.si.com

 

[rmontro]

This is epic... just epic. Classic Rodgers.

@Pokerbrat2000 noted on the prior page something about the Steelers might lose a comp pick if they sign Rodgers before the draft, so I figured we wouldn't be hearing anything until after. Surely Rodgers knows this, if that's what's going on.

 

[Thirteen Below]

@Pokerbrat2000 noted on the prior page something about the Steelers might lose a comp pick if they sign Rodgers before the draft, so I figured we wouldn't be hearing anything until after. Surely Rodgers knows this, if that's what's going on.

Boy, that seems like a hell of a risk for both parties, unless they have an undisclosed agreement that that's what they're doing. Which woud be about 6 different flavors of illegal, wouldn't it?

 

[rmontro]

Boy, that seems like a hell of a risk for both parties, unless they have an undisclosed agreement that that's what they're doing. Which woud be about 6 different flavors of illegal, wouldn't it?

Not that much of a risk for the Steelers, unless you consider not having Rodgers a huge risk. Anyway, who else is going to sign him?

 

[gopkrs]

Not that much of a risk for the Steelers, unless you consider not having Rodgers a huge risk. Anyway, who else is going to sign him?

I think it's been a sure thing for quite awhile now. Why would you sign him now and screw up 1 or 2 comp picks. I would hope we wouldn't if we were in that position.

 

[weeds]

Not that much of a risk for the Steelers, unless you consider not having Rodgers a huge risk. Anyway, who else is going to sign him?

Theoretically now... the Saints? Carr supposedly has a bad arm injury that may sideline him and desperate times calling for desperate measures and all... frankly, I just wish he's retire...

 

[DoURant]

The Saints would definitely be an option for 1 yr.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I wish Rodgers would just go away. Great, great player for 15 years in GB - gave us all a reason to watch the Packers every week.

But now? Please dude, just go to Mailibu and stop this pathetic quest for attention. Never thought insecurity would be much of a problem for Rodgers. First thought wrong, again.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

@Pokerbrat2000 noted on the prior page something about the Steelers might lose a comp pick if they sign Rodgers before the draft, so I figured we wouldn't be hearing anything until after. Surely Rodgers knows this, if that's what's going on.

That was just speculation and even if that is the "Steelers/Rodgers Plan", all the they had to do was say "We are working on the terms of a deal, but there is a strong possibility that Aaron Rodgers will be a Steeler in 2025."

I'm not going to blame the entire situation directly on Rodgers, unless you take into account his previous years of drama. I really think A-Rod has put himself in a position that the media and fans would make a big deal out of the guy trying to decided between a right turn or a left turn at a traffic light.

Would it be best for the Steelers organization to just have the decision made and get on with prepping for the draft and the upcoming season, knowing who their starting QB is going to be? Of course it would be, but this is Rodgers MO and has been for quite a few years. Whether he is looking for attention or not, he likes to hem and haw over things, trying to look smart, while he decides what is best for Aaron Rodgers. I guess at 41, I don't blame the guy for contemplating retirement, while weighing what would be best for his final days of playing in the NFL. I also think that he is holding out hope that the Vikings will switch gears and sign him. I think the Vikings would present the best situation for Rodgers making it to another Super Bowl and ending his career on a high note. I don't see that happening with the Steelers and maybe Rodgers doesn't either.

There really isn't a rush for Rodgers himself to sign a contract. With injuries, bad performances, etc., there is always going to be a team out there looking for a QB with his credentials.