Studs and Duds vs Seahawks

[OldSchool101]

I didn’t see a Stud/Dud thread yet? My apology if this is a duplicate just erase

 

[Firethorn1001]

Stud : Jacobs, Cooper, Doubs
Duds : MLF Challenges, 2 minute drill

As mentioned in the game thread, someone needs to staple the flag to his pants so it can't be thrown. At least MLF fessed up to the 2 minute drill dumpster fire at the end of the 1st half.

 

[milani]

Stud : Jacobs, Cooper, Doubs
Duds : MLF Challenges, 2 minute drill

As mentioned in the game thread, someone needs to staple the flag to his pants so it can't be thrown. At least MLF fessed up to the 2 minute drill dumpster fire at the end of the 1st half.

Caught a couple breaks with penalties after the first INT. I am glad he took the FG and did not try to be greedy.

 

[AmishMafia]

At least MLF fessed up to the 2 minute drill dumpster fire at the end of the 1st half.

Cost us a TD. And we ended up still having a TO. 1st down on the 2. You need 3 or 4 seconds per pass play. Suspect they will spend some time on this with Love this week.

 

[AmishMafia]

Studs: the entire defense. The defensive line. I know their OL isn't the best, but KC and the Gloomy band where all over that backfired.

Kinda dud moment. Valentine: interception in the endzone when you have to dodge tacklers to get out of the end zone probably means you should just take a knee.

But an all around great game by the Packers.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Cost us a TD. And we ended up still having a TO. 1st down on the 2. You need 3 or 4 seconds per pass play. Suspect they will spend some time on this with Love this week.

Yeah the problem at the end of the 1H was that Love completely forgot how much time was on the clock, and probably the down and distance. Crazy me, I would think that when you're in the two-minute drill, those things would be automatic. Worst case if you don't like the D and don't want to burn a TO spike the ball. Of course you have to remember what down it is. MLF could have also called for time, but the point is that they shouldn't have needed a TO there.

This is similar to the pick sixes he threw against the Queens and Detroit. It's like he just goes blank and forgets where he is in the game.

That's nitpicking though after a terrific all around game. As for Love, he'll learn these finer details. He is still very early in his career.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Studs: the entire defense. The defensive line. I know their OL isn't the best, but KC and the Gloomy band where all over that backfired.

Kinda dud moment. Valentine: interception in the endzone when you have to dodge tacklers to get out of the end zone probably means you should just take a knee.

But an all around great game by the Packers.

Yeah you know it's a good game when these are the only gripes. Valentine should have hit the turf in the end zone. I can see why he tried though. Everyone is bunched within 15 or 20 yards. Evade a few tackles and it could be huge. Then again, we've seen Metcalf run a corner down.

It's all good and it was a great game. Holding the hags to 13 at their place is quite the accomplishment. That is one hard place to play. The Packers took the crowd out early with a relentless run game, thanks MLF and Josh Jacobs.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Studs-
Cooper, he's a difference maker! Fastest closing speed on the field. Took a bad angle on Seattle's TD but his positives greatly exceed his negatives.
Doubs- Packers miss him when he's gone
Love- made good decisions, mobility was better
D Line- feasted against a very poor O line.
Valentine & Nixon - held Seattle's scary WR's in check for most of the game.
Duds-
Run game, - with the exception of Reed, too many plays under 4 yards . Ave per run is dropping off at the wrong time of the season.
Play Calling to Watson - too many difficult sideline routes. Get him in space in the middle more often.
Packers played their best game of the season.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Studs-
Cooper, he's a difference maker! Fastest closing speed on the field. Took a bad angle on Seattle's TD but his positives greatly exceed his negatives.
Doubs- Packers miss him when he's gone
Love- made good decisions, mobility was better
D Line- feasted against a very poor O line.
Valentine & Nixon - held Seattle's scary WR's in check for most of the game.
Duds-
Run game, - with the exception of Reed, too many plays under 4 yards . Ave per run is dropping off at the wrong time of the season.
Play Calling to Watson - too many difficult sideline routes. Get him in space in the middle more often.
Packers played their best game of the season.

I wouldn't say the run game is a problem, actually the opposite.

Good point on Watson. He should be able to shred a zone defense from the middle. That said, MLF needs to game up some plays to make that happen.

 

[chemist]

I wouldn't say the run game is a problem, actually the opposite.

Good point on Watson. He should be able to shred a zone defense from the middle. That said, MLF needs to game up some plays to make that happen.

STUDS.. I know most people are going to go for the big play guys, doubs,jacobs reed,watson etc but this week I want to give a shout out to our GM and our placekicker
Gute did a good job finding us a very reliable PK. That was one of the missing pieces of the puzzle we had to deal with all of last year and part of tbis year. Those guys arent on the field very often but they are a crtical piece if you want to win a SB. Without a reliable PK the puzzle is never complete...

 

[Voyageur]

Our run game is doing what every NFL team wishes theirs could do. It forces the defense to play strong against it on every down. That creates man coverage, and open spots in zones, where passes can be completed. If you look at the stats this year, you'll find that in games where Jacobs runs over the defenses early, the opposition plays heavy against the run, and Love's completion percentage, and fewer 50/50 passes are thrown. He's finding receivers sitting down in the openings.

On Doubs, as I've said since the day I saw him, this guy is a pure possession receiver, who does things most receivers aren't capable of even trying to do. If anyone believes it was coincidence that he got the elbow down in the end zone, you're totally wrong. Receivers never let the elbow touch the ground like that fearing injury, or the ball being jarred out of their hands. Romeo knew that's the only way the pass would be complete, and intentionally put that elbow down, and threw his weight away from the impact to avoid injury. You can't teach that stuff. It's just there. They will be able to put together a fairly substantial video of his spectacular catches when the season ends.

The entire defense was studs. They played the "bend but don't break" game the way it should be played against a team like the 'Hawks. They gave them movement in the middle of the field and owned the game inside the 40. Say what you like, the front seven for the Packers has some real animals in it, who are just starting to find their identity, and as they get better, they will impose their will on more offenses. But, they are still not quite the elite group that they can become.

Love is good, but only as good as the players who can catch the ball, and block for him. When it's there, he's an elite QB, and when it's not, he becomes a little more pedestrian. Last night, the offensive line came to play, and the receivers did too. If they had played like this against the Lions, the Packers would have won that game too.

I don't see any duds. I'm also getting comfortable with McManus. He's turning into a steady performer for us.

 

[PikeBadger]

Studs - both the offense and defensive lines. Both outplayed their opponents by a considerable margin at different times of the game. The first two drives resulted in 14-0 lead and Seattle never could get to 14. The run game was terrific in the first half. That's a tough, stout defensive line they man handled early in their own house. The blocking by the receivers on the end around/jet sweeps was noticeably very good. Defensive line dominated the Seahawks o-line for most of the game. Great team win, all three units were very good. Winning by 17 against a good team in a difficult environment is no joke! Looking backwards, we've absolutely destroyed the NFC West teams this year.

Duds- very few and far between. LaFleur's handling of the clock in the last minute of the first half of course stands out. Imo, he should have calleda TO with 42 seconds so he could get plans squared away with Love. Other than that, I don't think the safeties played particularly well though I'm not sure it reaches the status of dud.

 

[thequick12]

Jordan Love

Don't look now but over the Packers last 5 games...

Love has thrown 8 tds against 1 int for 1133 yards

His passer rating

123.8 Seahawks
111.7 Lions
129.2 Miami
107.7 49ers
113.0 Bears

 

[milani]

Cost us a TD. And we ended up still having a TO. 1st down on the 2. You need 3 or 4 seconds per pass play. Suspect they will spend some time on this with Love this week.

In a game like this it is not so significant. But against better teams like the playoff teams we may face this is the difference between victory and defeat.

 

[GBkrzygrl]

It was a great game. Love played very well. In fact I don't think he missed a throw. The receivers missed the catch and those were few and far between.

The defense was on fire! I saw very few mistakes and couple of those seemed ticky tacky to me.

I want to give kudos to Jacobs, Watson, Reed, Wicks and of course Love. I think I'll also include LaFleur. I thought he called a great game.

On defense Clark, Valentine, Enagbare and all the guys that filled in for injured players.

The officials missed some and were ticky tacky on some calls but overall I thought they did ok.

Great game. Now on to the Saints.

 

[Pugger]

Stud : Jacobs, Cooper, Doubs
Duds : MLF Challenges, 2 minute drill

As mentioned in the game thread, someone needs to staple the flag to his pants so it can't be thrown. At least MLF fessed up to the 2 minute drill dumpster fire at the end of the 1st half.

I was relieved when MLF used up all his time outs in the second half so he couldn't throw his red hankie out again.

 

[Pugger]

Yeah you know it's a good game when these are the only gripes. Valentine should have hit the turf in the end zone. I can see why he tried though. Everyone is bunched within 15 or 20 yards. Evade a few tackles and it could be huge. Then again, we've seen Metcalf run a corner down.

It's all good and it was a great game. Holding the hags to 13 at their place is quite the accomplishment. That is one hard place to play. The Packers took the crowd out early with a relentless run game, thanks MLF and Josh Jacobs.

Of course half the crowd was wearing green and gold...

 

[BrokenArrow]

Cost us a TD. And we ended up still having a TO. 1st down on the 2. You need 3 or 4 seconds per pass play. Suspect they will spend some time on this with Love this week.

In all fairness, you don't know if it cost us a TD. It might have prevented a turnover.

 

[Pugger]

I wouldn't say the run game is a problem, actually the opposite.

Good point on Watson. He should be able to shred a zone defense from the middle. That said, MLF needs to game up some plays to make that happen.

We did struggle a little running in the second half.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Duds-
Run game, - with the exception of Reed, too many plays under 4 yards . Ave per run is dropping off at the wrong time of the season.

There are many whose rallying cry is "Stick with the run!" Or their complaint is "Why did they abandon the run?" Well, one of the by-products of being dedicated to the run is that often you run even when the defense is stacked against it. If average YPC is the most important thing, then you can't gripe when a team audibles to a pass and "abandons" the run from time to time.

 

[BrokenArrow]

I was relieved when MLF used up all his time outs in the second half so he couldn't throw his red hankie out again.

I do think that play was a fumble though. Yes, Howell's arm was coming VERY slightly forward by maybe an inch at most, but I don't think it was moving toward the LOS. It looked like a lateral to me. I'm sure that's what they saw but unfortunately there was no camera angle that could show it conclusively. To me it was worth a try.

 

[OldSchool101]

In all fairness, you don't know if it cost us a TD. It might have prevented a turnover.

Technically that’s true.
The Clock was/has been weaker imo Not atrocious but NOT a strong point. It’s picking but it’ll lose you a game each season not picking.
As evidenced by goal to go from the 2 yard line but we ran out of time here. 1 more second would’ve generated and extra pass play.
We needed just 11-13 more seconds to run 3 plays and kick a FG. Instead we wasted 15 seconds getting set. It’s hurry up there or call the TO. Amish was right, The Clock and Field position was > burning our last timeout.
-4 points imo

We did struggle a little running in the second half.

Exactly. I was going to mention something tied to this. In the first half we actually threw to our RB’s. Matter of fact I’ve been begging us to do this because we’ve got elite YAC guys. Then as game wore on we got away from what was working. It’s really a high probability play and it runs the clock. Averaged 10.1 per to Rb’s 5/5

 

[gopkrs]

Studs: Watson, Doubs, Reed, Jacobs, Tom, Engabare, D line, Cooper, McManus
Honorable mention I think. The little bit I saw of Mosby dropping into coverage, he looked good.

Duds: Not calling one of two time outs after the reception at the end of the half. Throwing the red flag when it was obvious to everyone watching a monitor that the play was called correctly. Coaches and Valentine for not knowing that if you get tackled in the endzone after an interception while trying to run it out; It's a safety. Trying to run the ball to Jacobs too much in the second half when it wasn't going anywhere.

 

[OldSchool101]

Not much to complain about here! Wonderful Game. Not our best, but one of our better games imo.

Stud: Matt and our Players being mentally prepared. That was my biggest concern coming in.
Team showed up ready. You could just see the energy. Starting with an assertiveness taking the ball first. It set the entire tone. We have a Top 5 Offense. We finally Quit letting our opponents dictate the tempo and take the ball away. If we had an O ranked #21 and top 5 Defense? Then dictate the Opening tempo through your D. Great Decision by Matt

Defense: Hafley and Crew
Since the Bye week we have allowed 18.8 points/gm. Yes you heard that correctly. Could’ve been a tad lower had Watson not fumbled at midfield last Thursday.

2024 Defensive scoring allowed #8
Last 5 games (Bye) scoring allowed #6

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

As mentioned in the game thread, someone needs to staple the flag to his pants so it can't be thrown. At least MLF fessed up to the 2 minute drill dumpster fire at the end of the 1st half.

Isn't there anyone up in the booth giving advice to Matt about challenges?

MLF's clock management at the end of halves is going to cost the Packers games, could be a playoff game. He really needs to clean it up or let someone advise him as to what the Packers should be doing, on both sides of the ball.

Speaking of time management. The offense is really doing a poor job of getting into and out of the huddle in a timely matter. Love ends up with very little or no time to look over the defense and audible out if necessary. The snaps are being rushed and or a timeout is wasted to prevent a delay of game penalty.

The underlying theme here is that MLF has his hands in too many things. While I love Matt as a HC, he needs to hand the play calling over to a very skill Offensive Coordinator and lean on his press box staff about challenges and timeouts.