Packers vs Seachickens Pregame

[PackerDNA]

Going into this season I felt we would be a handful for anyone, but were still a year away. Haven't changed my mind on that. We're an upper second tier team right now. At best third best in the conference. There's a lot to work on, but there's also a lot to be excited about. Continue to improve and have some luck with injuries and we'll see what happens.

 

[El Guapo]

Looking at things in the positive light, we are team with lots of opportunities for players to take steps forward in their career. We aren't saddled with players beginning to take steps backwards.

I'm not even cautiously optimistic about Sunday night. I am optimistic. The Packers should come out playing hard out of the gate.

 

[gopkrs]

I will say this much. IF we Win? ?
I hope I don’t hear any more excuses from the media about how we have not beat a Playoff Caliber team.

Just had to say...I don't care what the media says. Sometimes they are right about things but always they just want to put their face out there. And I'm just not into all the soap opera crap. And think most of it is unimportant.

 

[Krabs]

What’s concerning me is Eric Stokes.
Across the first 5 contests he played 79.3% of Defensive snaps. He was very involved in Hafleys’ plans earlier in the season.
Starting Week 6, Stokes has played 38.1% of Defensive snaps
It just displays to me a lack of confidence in him.

So here you have a situation. You are missing your Corner #1 since Week 8 and your presumed Corner #2 has been relegated to Part Time. Then we ask why Detroit (the #1 Offense) moved at will. We’re probably fortunate we held them to 34 points (roughly their average).

I wasn't surprised at all that the Lions were able to move the ball. I knew we would have to score a lot of points to keep up.

 

[tynimiller]

GB is 4-2 on the Road this year. Losing Road games in Brazil (an extension of the Preseason) and Detroit last week on a Walk-Off FG.

I think the Media looks for ways to dishearten Packer fans after we’ve had such a long tradition of Winning. As a Packer fan I’m not too confident that I could actually say we’ve played our best Ball already in relation to our potential. Clean up a couple mistakes and we take down Detroit AT Detroit and a very solid Minnesota team (I’ll concede on the TWO Sloppy field Fests)
Also GB appears to have an arrow pointing up this week in health. Not exactly who’d I’d want to be dismissing down the stretch.

I’ll agree. Seattle is playing really good right now. They are feeling good on a 4 game Win streak. However I will 100% say this with confidence. The Packers are currently better than all 3 teams they beat imo. Cardinals 2X, Jets, 49ers

I actually think on a whole most of the NFL media folks know and recognize Green Bay is a contender and good, its those in our own fanbase that continue to not see it.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Seahawks quick passing game is going to be a serious problem for the Packers defense. Seahawks passing offense revolves around quick throws, Geno gets into trouble when he has to hold the ball for too long. Unfortunately, the packers quick pass defense is one of the worst in the NFL and the pass rush is also one of the worst in the NFL. I think the Packers win based on Jacobs running people over, but I think it's going to be a much tighter game than I would like.

 

[gopkrs]

Seahawks quick passing game is going to be a serious problem for the Packers defense. Seahawks passing offense revolves around quick throws, Geno gets into trouble when he has to hold the ball for too long. Unfortunately, the packers quick pass defense is one of the worst in the NFL and the pass rush is also one of the worst in the NFL. I think the Packers win based on Jacobs running people over, but I think it's going to be a much tighter game than I would like.

If that's the case; I hope Hafley adjusts what he does with the linebackers.

 

[tynimiller]

If that's the case; I hope Hafley adjusts what he does with the linebackers.

Praying Williams is healthy and able to go the whole game because without Bullard as well this is not the offense to face at all.

 

[weeds]

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[OldSchool101]

I actually think on a whole most of the NFL media folks know and recognize Green Bay is a contender and good, it’s those in our own fanbase that continue to not see it.

Well there’s always Packer doubters sure. Their doubt is more warranted though they actually watch the games and patterns.
I think Some of the outside unwarranted doubt is because non Packer fans look at surface stuff. They follow scores if you will. They see we lost 4 games to all great teams. However my point is we have to scratch that surface.
The first game of a season is a near throwaway as far as judging a team.
In 2 other losses it was glaring apparent that Love was either
a. rusty
b. hobbled and throwing without legs
c both combined.

Our 4th loss? That game was VERY close. Anyone who doesn’t believe me I can send a photo of Detroit fans in the crowd later 4th Quarter with hands over their face as if they sniffed defeat for a few moments.

 

[PackerDNA]

If you told me before the game that the Lions would have 31 more plays over 12 minutes of time possession I would say we would lose like 30 points. But we are out coached in the first half we started slow. I talked about winning in the pits many times before. Or offensive line was basically getting thier *** kicked by third stringers up front. Couldn't run the ball well didn't handle the blitz well.
I want to see the team continue to hit its stride. Love is healthy continue to hit his stride. Then we can roll the dice. Stopping the short, quick passing game over the Middle with our linebackers and a banged up cornerback situation could be our downfall. Just get healthy, continue to improve, and let's see what goes. There is some bad matchups against the Seahawks. Let's see how MLF and company handle it

 

[OldSchool101]

If you told me before the game that the Lions would have 31 more plays over 12 minutes of time possession I would say we would lose like 30 points. But we are out coached in the first half we started slow. I talked about winning in the pits many times before. Or offensive line was basically getting thier *** kicked by third stringers up front. Couldn't run the ball well didn't handle the blitz well.
I want to see the team continue to hit its stride. Love is healthy continue to hit his stride. Then we can roll the dice. Stopping the short, quick passing game over the Middle with our linebackers and a banged up cornerback situation could be our downfall. Just get healthy, continue to improve, and let's see what goes. There is some bad matchups against the Seahawks. Let's see how MLF and company handle it

It’s good litmus test.
Daniel Jeremiah was asked where the Seahawks were in NFC and he said 2nd tier (behinf Eagles Lions 1st tier). It’s really where we have been. Although I think we’re higher 2nd Tier if there is such a thing.



Seattle is a tougher environment to play in. So my take is we have a hit team on a 4Win streak playing at their house. GB wins this convincingly!
I think we can make an argument we’re more lower Tier 1

 

[PackerDNA]

It’s good litmus test.
Daniel Jeremiah was asked where the Seahawks were in NFC and he said 2nd tier (behinf Eagles Lions 1st tier). It’s really where we have been. Although I think we’re higher 2nd Tier if there is such a thing.



Seattle is a tougher environment to play in. So my take is we have a hit team on a 4Win streak playing at their house. GB wins this convincingly!
I think we can make an argument we’re more lower Tier 1

Agree definitely upper second tier third or fourth in the conference. Seattle's winning streak hasn't exactly been against upper echelon teams. It's going to be tough at their place, but we should definitely win this game and I feel decisively. We need to get off the slow starts.

 

[Pkrjones]

Sunday night weather in Seattle: overcast & mid 40's. Hopefully MLF mixes it up with pounding Jacobs, then letting Love slice & dice their secondary. Another boring, low-stress game (from my La-Z-Boy)... Packers 34 - Seabirds 20.

 

[OldSchool101]

Sunday night weather in Seattle: overcast & mid 40's. Hopefully MLF mixes it up with pounding Jacobs, then letting Love slice & dice their secondary. Another boring, low-stress game (from my La-Z-Boy)... Packers 34 - Seabirds 20.

Thanks. After watching Thursday night Rain in California and how it’s really impacted this one? I was just getting ready to look to see if weather was a factor. Mid 40’s is nice weather for football.

LA & SF
-Stafford 4/12 23 yards 1st half
-Most Punts (11) in a first half this season.
-least Points in a LA/SF game since 2009


Glad we’re not the only ones starting slow!!

 

[milani]

Going into this season I felt we would be a handful for anyone, but were still a year away. Haven't changed my mind on that. We're an upper second tier team right now. At best third best in the conference. There's a lot to work on, but there's also a lot to be excited about. Continue to improve and have some luck with injuries and we'll see what happens.

Maybe in 2025 although as good as the Lions and Vikings are 2026 may be more realistic.

 

[milani]

Thanks. After watching Thursday night Rain in California and how it’s really impacted this one? I was just getting ready to look to see if weather was a factor. Mid 40’s is nice weather for football.

LA & SF
-Stafford 4/12 23 yards 1st half
-Most Punts (11) in a first half this season.
-least Points in a LA/SF game since 2009


Glad we’re not the only ones starting slow!!

Needless to say, the Cardinals and Rams will be pulling for us Sunday night. Would love to give them an early Xmas .

 

[rmontro]

I actually think on a whole most of the NFL media folks know and recognize Green Bay is a contender and good, its those in our own fanbase that continue to not see it.

I don't know, our resident Bear fan doesn't think we're any good.

 

[tynimiller]

I don't know, our resident Bear fan doesn't think we're any good.

Caleb’s acknowledges this team is good, maybe disagrees at times on how good but haven’t seen him say they’re not.

Fully may have missed a post tho

 

[chemist]

Caleb’s acknowledges this team is good, maybe disagrees at times on how good but haven’t seen him say they’re not.

Fully may have missed a post tho

My current view of playoff picture...I am looking at 2 teams that could be very dangerous going forward. They are on the right glide path to make a deep run toward the SB... Rams and Seahawks . They are finding their stride and could knock out much higher ranked teams

 

[Krabs]

Sunday night weather in Seattle: overcast & mid 40's. Hopefully MLF mixes it up with pounding Jacobs, then letting Love slice & dice their secondary. Another boring, low-stress game (from my La-Z-Boy)... Packers 34 - Seabirds 20.

You spelled Seachickens wrong.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Agree definitely upper second tier third or fourth in the conference. Seattle's winning streak hasn't exactly been against upper echelon teams. It's going to be tough at their place, but we should definitely win this game and I feel decisively. We need to get off the slow starts.

The slow starts have been a big problem. I just see it as a symptom of the lack of focus and intensity. Once the game gets going and they realize they're in for a battle, the focus tends to improve but by that time, the Packers have lost the opportunity to start with momentum.

 

[gopkrs]

The slow starts have been a big problem. I just see it as a symptom of the lack of focus and intensity. Once the game gets going and they realize they're in for a battle, the focus tends to improve but by that time, the Packers have lost the opportunity to start with momentum.

Most fans on this board seem to want us to kickoff at the start when we have the choice. But, like against the Lions and something we did the week before, they used up a lot of clock getting into scoring position. So it's not easy to have a fast start in those cases. I just don't think it's a cut and dried decision to kickoff or receive at the start of the game. Depends on how you see the game going. I know you didn't mention this aspect but I think it comes into play. Against Seattle? I don't think it makes a big difference. We either go in there on O with those fans screaming bloody murder or we try and calm them down a bit. Both ways have risks.

 

[OldSchool101]

The slow starts have been a big problem. I just see it as a symptom of the lack of focus and intensity. Once the game gets going and they realize they're in for a battle, the focus tends to improve but by that time, the Packers have lost the opportunity to start with momentum.

In Leroy and Tom’s latest videos. They talked about how our opponents are beginning to implement a formula that is our kryptonite. Love possibly doesn’t get flexibility or his Receiving group doesn’t have a specific plan for over-aggression (rushing 5+) earlier in games. He mentioned in his experience Favre used to counter it with a Slant or Bubble Screen or if The Safety played back Favre would just hit Sterling with a quick throw and that was a suggestion by Sharpe. He’d punish opponents with a YAC play but it was more about keeping Favre clean early in games. Then opponents would be forced to stop the Rushing 6 type stuff and they’d revert back to the Running game once they established that quick high probability passing game.

Leroy and Tom noticed what I noticed. Teams are using a template of rushing extra guys early to get after Jordan. However we seem to not have any plan to change the play when it’s clear they are running that Casino blitz.

The adjustments Favre made were so obvious that Butler would ask Favre what they were doing. Favre told Leroy they had meetings to change the play just before the snap on a certain signal or cue and burn the Defense or welcome that look that the Lions were giving us. It was like an antidote to inflict pain on the D until they had their hand forced to stop getting gashed by over aggression. Cat n Mouse if you will. This happened both in practice and live games and Butler said it was very effective in slowing the blitz earlier.

Love n Co and Matt need to have a better plan than just waiting on a 15 yard pass to develop while it’s 6 on 5 rushing. throw away from the pocket and let them fight for several yards with a 1 on 1 matchup and take that small 3-5 yard play early and often and make Seattle respect it. Mix in the Run more as the Field position tilts. Quit running the middle for 0 yards in play #2 of the game. It reminds me of the Packers of the 80’s run run pass punt run run pass punt run run pass punt. Use a little ingenuity in the 1st quarter

 

[gopkrs]

I only read the headline so I hope it's not totally out of context. Hafley said he is more concerned about points scored than yards given up. Personally, I think that is dangerously sounding like bend but don't break. Which I hate and has not been successful for us in the past. It smacks of giving up those short passes for 7,8 or 9 yard gains instead of playing tighter.