Packers trade up to #21.....S Darnell Savage

[easyk83]

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If Haha ever made a play like that I would have died of shock, IMO Savage apart from having an awesome name has the kind of range that we haven't had back there since Collins. IMO he's the guy who could play single high for us, maybe not this year, but he's the type of athlete that I've wanted back there for years.

 

[swhitset]

Comments like “we could have gotten x player at 30” is so laughably ridiculous. Why do you think that? Because of the position the media pegged them for?

I don’t have a problem with anyone criticizing or analyzing a player’s game. But to suggest that you know that the Packers could have gotten him later on in the draft is just so laughably absurd.

How do I give this seven “winners”?

 

[PackAttack12]

How do I give this seven “winners”?

Create 6 more accounts.

 

[swhitset]

It was a GIANT REACH and the capital given up was enormous. 114, 118, and 30 for what we got just isn't good enough. There was not an elite safety in this draft so the tendency to reach here for what many believe will be a sub-package and special teams contributor his first year makes zero sense. He isn't ready to play single high free safety by any means.

People can disagree with me all they want and say I OVERVALUE offensive play makers but what the Packers have done on defense is WAY BEYOND anything I could ever come up with.

If only you were in charge all would be good with the world.

 

[swhitset]

It is easy to draw a comparison between Alexander and Savage. Small frame guys not afraid to stick their nose in it, quick, fast, ball skills, competitive at the ball, instinctual. It's no coincidence that in both cases some analysts projected both these guys to the slot to go against the protypical small, quick receivers.

Make no mistake. These guys are a perimeter corner and a free safety, respecitively. There isn't much doubt about Alexander's spot now, where more upside can be projected, and there shouldn't be with respect to Savage.

Now, situationally, might Savage take on a slot in some man coverages? Sure. Week 3 against KC and Hill might be an example. But make no mistake. Everything about him says his primary role is prowling the back end.

Agree with everything except that Kansas City and Hill in week 3 thing... it’s not looking likely that he will be playing anywhere at this point.

 

[brandon2348]

If only you were in charge all would be good with the world.

It would be better then this ********. You have Aaron Rodgers. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out to give him weapons.

Remember Jordan on the Bulls? Jordan was amazing at one point but didnt have any help. They surrounded him with talent and championships got racked up.

I cant help if Green Bay is stuck on STUPID.

 

[Dantés]

After Savage, the next player who could potentially be viewed as a FS was Marquise Blair at #47. The run on safeties didn't begin until pick #60 with Adderley.

Gutekunst justified the trade up in part because there was a drop off from Savage in his opinion. It would seem the NFL agreed with him.

 

[swhitset]

Not sure if this is suppose to be you laughing at Brandon or Brandon throwing a temper tantrum?

yes.

 

[brandon2348]

After Savage, the next player who could potentially be viewed as a FS was Marquise Blair at #47. The run on safeties didn't begin until pick #60 with Adderley.

Gutekunst justified the trade up in part because there was a drop off from Savage in his opinion. It would seem the NFL agreed with him.

I'm done with and it is what it is. The draft IMO was a complete failure and that is my opinion. You or someone else can like it and that's cool. It's over and so are the Green Bay Packers at being any type of contender. This franchise is dysfunctional and acting out in complete desperation. Theee moves will prove to bury the team in there long term plans.

People can live in there little FANTASY LAND if they want. My prediction is that this season will be a failure and I've never predicted total failure before. Take it for what it is. Gute has proven he is an IDIOT.

 

[GleefulGary]

Wanna predict a record? What are you calling a total failure?

You know...put your money where your mouth is. Make a prediction.

 

[brandon2348]

After Savage, the next player who could potentially be viewed as a FS was Marquise Blair at #47. The run on safeties didn't begin until pick #60 with Adderley.

Gutekunst justified the trade up in part because there was a drop off from Savage in his opinion. It would seem the NFL agreed with him.

Also, with what the Packers gave up this guy better be Nick Collins or Earl Thomas like. If he becomes a JAG which I expect its COMPLETE FAILURE OF EPIC PROPORTIONS just to clarify.

 

[tynimiller]

It's cute brandon thinks others live in their own little fantasy land....LOL

 

[GleefulGary]

Also, with what the Packers gave up this guy better be Nick Collins or Earl Thomas like. If he becomes a JAG which I expect its COMPLETE FAILURE OF EPIC PROPORTIONS just to clarify.

Based on most trade charts, the Packers didn't lose value. You are aware of this, right?

 

[OldSchool101]

If you look at the trade chart moving from 30 to 21 was 180 pts, the 2 4th round picks were 124 points. We won that trade. I like the aggressiveness of Gute back to back years in the 1st Rd. He goes and gets his guys. He said in his press conference that he didn't think Savage would be there at #30. Plus, he didn't give up a 2nd or 3rd to move up in the 1st.. That's pretty good. I've been high on Savage the whole draft process, I looked at Safeties in January and his game jumped out over everyone to me, he was my #1 Safety. Then at the combine when he ran 4.36 I was like, damn this is a Gute guy, fast, fast, fast! In the last week the media got on board and realized hey, teams really really like this guy and started talking about him.

I think I realized how much we as casual observers only know a smidge of which players will offer us the best fit. Of course how could we know?..We don’t even know the draft battle plan and trust me there’s a well thought out plan of various directions and contingencies for those directions.
I’m pleased so far other than trading “both” 4ths. However, at the same time I’m a firm advocate of being proactive and I like this pick.

 

[HardRightEdge]

If Haha ever made a play like that I would have died of shock, IMO Savage apart from having an awesome name has the kind of range that we haven't had back there since Collins. IMO he's the guy who could play single high for us, maybe not this year, but he's the type of athlete that I've wanted back there for years.

In all fairness C-D, he made better plays that that. Not often enough, and the last 2 years had a few too many business decisions. Not as good as people thought in Pro Bowl year; not as bad as people thought thereafter.

This clip hardly qualifies as a highlight. The QB stared down the receiver and double clutched into coverage. That pick was a gift.

The other clip, where he defends the ball in the end zone...that kind of reaction to the ball is not something you would have seen from C-D.

 

[GleefulGary]

Gute said he knows for a fact that we couldn't have gotten Savage at 30.

 

[brandon2348]

Based on most trade charts, the Packers didn't lose value. You are aware of this, right?

I've given my opinion. THE PICK SUCKS considering what we gave up. I don't think he was worth it. How many times do you want me to say it?

The franchise is heading in the wrong direction(which is also my opinion) and this team is no longer a contender. All you guys that pounded the table for all this ******** can have fun losing. This is not going to be a fun season.

 

[GleefulGary]

I've given my opinion. THE PICK SUCKS considering what we gave up. I don't think he was worth it. How many times do you want me to say it?

The franchise is heading in the wrong direction(which is also my opinion) and this team is no longer a contender. All you guys that pounded the table for all this ******** can have fun losing. This is not going to be a fun season.

So are you predicting a losing record?

 

[swhitset]

It's cute brandon thinks others live in their own little fantasy land....LOL

At least we don’t have to live in his depressing little prison.

 

[HardRightEdge]

How many times do you want me to say it?

Whatever it is you're selling we certainly don't need any more times hearing it.

Don't you ever get bored with yourself repeating the same thing over and over and over? Or do you just like the attention?

 

[gbgary]

Of course he agrees with me. It's as obvious as it gets. This wasn't one of those GREY AREA DEALS.

well...gute blew away the reach at 21 thing. we'd heard the colts were in on the guy but gute said in his just concluded presser that he knows "for a fact" he wouldn't get him had he stayed at 30.

 

[Dblbogey]

This pick reminds me of the saying it's better to have and not need, rather than need and not have.

I believe he'll help strengthen what is looking to be a strong secondary. If we get that pash rush going then we'll be easily a top 10 top 5 defense.

We just need to make sure we get Rodgers some good weapons and some protection of the offensive side.

They added Turner in FA, drafted a quality and versatile OG/Center in the 2nd round this year, and Cole Madison is coming back. Our left guard had 2 quality years before playing hurt this year and if he's healthy, our OL should be much improved in the interior and much, much deeper overall although we sure could use a decent swing tackle. The addition of Sternberger is potentially another nice weapon for Rodgers, TE being something we've lacked for years other than basically the half a year of Jared Cook. I've liked every pick, with the exception of Rashan Gary. I will have to Trust Gute on that one for now and hope for the best. This team appears much improved on both sides of the ball since 2018 season ended.

 

[Dblbogey]

I'll admit getting Savage makes me wish we'd cut Tramon even more now than ever before...lot of money ate up by Tramon, and I am hoping he is a reserve player honestly.

He'll be nice to have when one or more of our corners gets hurt, and/or if Josh Jackson doesn't make a 2nd year jump.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm done with and it is what it is. The draft IMO was a complete failure and that is my opinion. You or someone else can like it and that's cool. It's over and so are the Green Bay Packers at being any type of contender. This franchise is dysfunctional and acting out in complete desperation. Theee moves will prove to bury the team in there long term plans.

People can live in there little FANTASY LAND if they want. My prediction is that this season will be a failure and I've never predicted total failure before. Take it for what it is. Gute has proven he is an IDIOT.

I've given my opinion. THE PICK SUCKS considering what we gave up. I don't think he was worth it. How many times do you want me to say it?

The franchise is heading in the wrong direction(which is also my opinion) and this team is no longer a contender. All you guys that pounded the table for all this ******** can have fun losing. This is not going to be a fun season.

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[Dblbogey]

I suppose in a way it is kind of funny watching a bunch of Morons run the Green Bay Packers. The fall has been steep.

Is it just me, or are your comments just nonsense?