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[Firethorn1001]

2) I wonder if Crosby was missing because he was pushing the trajectory away from the direction of the pressure OR whatever "fixing" went on screwed with his mechanics.

Was my thought. That edge seems to always be 1/4 second away from blocking a kick all the time.

 

[milani]

Sounds like Def played good??? Crosby might be dud and stud if he makes this?

Defense did play pretty well. 2 picks. Sacks. Just got to get better in the red zone.

 

[milani]

Was my thought. That edge seems to always be 1/4 second away from blocking a kick all the time.

I thought the exact same thing. If he went for the middle does it get blocked?

 

[milani]

Detroit. About 4 years ago?

We lost that one 30-22 and played pretty bad on both sides of the ball as well.

 

[swhitset]

I’m trying to find it but I think Mason had a game that he missed 3 FGs

lions game a few years ago

 

[milani]

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LaFleur is a special coach. Had a bit of a rough day today, but his ability to connect with his players and trust them can not be understated

I am thinking of the 2007 Championship game. Coughlin and the Giants missed kicks in the 4th quarter and OT and just did not seem to want it. After Favre's pick he sends the kicker out again from 47. His coaches were asking him what he was doing. But the guy finally made it. Granted he *** kicking in below zero weather at Lambeau. Not the 80 degrees in Cincy.

 

[milani]

Stud: Devant, Cobb, Dillon, Jones Masons game winning kick that I missed because of stupid local viewing changes
Dud: play calling, wasteful time outs, MLF, Barry, ST&coach, Missed scoring opportunities

Must have been quite a local game!

 

[Dantés]

Pass rush saw its best game of the season today by a large margin.

 

[Mondio]

Crosby just wanted to build some pressure. What's the fun in making all of them? LOL He had a rough day, i'm glad he made the biggest pressure kick of the day though to end it.

DUDS all the windbags that come out only when things look in question. Not a single post since the NO game, none while controlling the 9er's game, none during the steelers and none today while we were up and in control. But as soon as things don't look good, here they are. How's that 3-2 taste DOG LOL

anyway, Our D I thought played pretty well until we were down more guys. Jean Charles is not ready, Yiadom is not good enough and King played well enough but can't stay healthy. I don't know how we're going to play coverage going forward, but they'll have to find a way.

 

[rmontro]

2) I wonder if Crosby was missing because he was pushing the trajectory away from the direction of the pressure OR whatever "fixing" went on screwed with his mechanics.

Ohhh, that's a pretty good theory actually.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Studs: Bengal fans! Classy bunch of fans, friendly and congratutorial after the game.

 

[SteveHarvey]

All season, there has been a concerning amount of pressure on field goal attempts. The edge rushers nearly get there almost every time. Drayton was asked about it and said it's been fixed.

1) It was still a problem today.

2) I wonder if Crosby was missing because he was pushing the trajectory away from the direction of the pressure OR whatever "fixing" went on screwed with his mechanics.

Everyone is going to miss a kick here and there, but Crosby is way too accurate to miss three in a row out of the blue, and I don't think it's a coincidence that all this nonsense has been going on with the FG unit as a whole.

Every kick been an issue since that Pittsburgh block. Hes seeing ghosts due to that persistent lack of protection from that side

 

[Dantés]

I'm not sure what's going on with LaFleur, but his situational play calling has been surprisingly bad this year.

What makes you confident that it’s the play calls and not the execution?

 

[Dantés]

LaFleur's regular season winning percentage is now 81%.

Packers regular season winning percentage in the 5 years prior to LaFleur (Rodgers starts only): 59%.

Packers regular season winning percentage in the 3 years prior to LaFleur (Rodgers starts only): 54%

30 wins in 37 games ties him for the 3rd fastest ever to 30 wins.

 

[XPack]

Stud: Def, Adams, Cobb

Dud: MLF, Crosby

 

[tynimiller]

I had to listen to the whole game so will avoid ignorantly placing a stud or dud on someone.

Will say though Crosby fits both categories and the shoutbox thread yet again was filled with trash so I’ll give it a dud lol

 

[PackAttack12]

What makes you confident that it’s the play calls and not the execution?

It's never an all or none proposition, but to pretend like he doesn't deserve some blame is a curious opinion. Part of execution is making play calls to put your players in a position to succeed.

Like the run/run/kick decision in OT. Crosby had just missed two kicks, and you essentially concede the possession and put the game in the hands of a kicker that's clearly struggling. That's just not smart, IMO. Especially when you have a 1st ballot hall of fame quarterback and the best damn WR in the NFL on your team.

There's been lots of situations where the Packers have established the run and have a rhythm going. And then mysteriously trots out empty backfield 5 wide packages. And more times than not, those plays/drives have ended poorly. I've never seen him so willing to abandon the running game like he has so far this season either just as a whole. And I don't have to see run/pass percentages because it isn't necessarily the run/pass ratios, it's situationally what's being called that's troubling to me.

I'm in no way dogg.ing LaFleur. I have such a high opinion of him as a head coach and the Packers are extremely lucky to have him. He's been a huge part of turning the Packers back into a contender. But he's been a little off. Just like Rodgers has been a little off. Just like really the whole team has been a little off. I'm sure it'll all work itself out though in due time.

 

[XPack]

2) I wonder if Crosby was missing because he was pushing the trajectory away from the direction of the pressure OR whatever "fixing" went on screwed with his mechanics.

Interesting!

All his shanks were to the left iirc? Probably counter acting for the rush from the right?

 

[Dantés]

It's never an all or none proposition, but to pretend like he doesn't deserve some blame is a curious opinion. Part of execution is making play calls to put your players in a position to succeed.

Like the run/run/kick decision in OT. Crosby had just missed two kicks, and you essentially concede the possession and put the game in the hands of a kicker that's clearly struggling. That's just not smart, IMO. Especially when you have a 1st ballot hall of fame quarterback and the best damn WR in the NFL on your team.

There's been lots of situations where the Packers have established the run and have a rhythm going. And then mysteriously trots out empty backfield 5 wide packages. And more times than not, those plays/drives have ended poorly. I've never seen him so willing to abandon the running game like he has so far this season either just as a whole. And I don't have to see run/pass percentages because it isn't necessarily the run/pass ratios, it's situationally what's being called that's troubling to me.

I'm in no way ******* LaFleur. I have such a high opinion of him as a head coach and the Packers are extremely lucky to have him. He's been a huge part of turning the Packers back into a contender. But he's been a little off. Just like Rodgers has been a little off. Just like really the whole team has been a little off. I'm sure it'll all work itself out though in due time.

It was a question, not a statement. I didn’t say he deserves no blame.

I just think that deciphering between play calling problems and play execution problems can be tricky and is often really difficult from the outside.

You mentioned you thought he’d been bad all year. So I wondered if you had specific reasoning for pinning it more on the calls than the execution.

 

[Dantés]

Interesting!

All his shanks were to the left iirc? Probably counter acting for the rush from the right?

That’s what it looked like to me.

 

[PackAttack12]

It's never an all or none proposition, but to pretend like he doesn't deserve some blame is a curious opinion. Part of execution is making play calls to put your players in a position to succeed.

Like the run/run/kick decision in OT. Crosby had just missed two kicks, and you essentially concede the possession and put the game in the hands of a kicker that's clearly struggling. That's just not smart, IMO. Especially when you have a 1st ballot hall of fame quarterback and the best damn WR in the NFL on your team.

There's been lots of situations where the Packers have established the run and have a rhythm going. And then mysteriously trots out empty backfield 5 wide packages. And more times than not, those plays/drives have ended poorly. I've never seen him so willing to abandon the running game like he has so far this season either just as a whole. And I don't have to see run/pass percentages because it isn't necessarily the run/pass ratios, it's situationally what's being called that's troubling to me.

I'm in no way dogg.ing LaFleur. I have such a high opinion of him as a head coach and the Packers are extremely lucky to have him. He's been a huge part of turning the Packers back into a contender. But he's been a little off. Just like Rodgers has been a little off. Just like really the whole team has been a little off. I'm sure it'll all work itself out though in due time.

Can we please adjust some of the words that are being censored? You can't type "dogg.ing" or "w.a.d" without it bleeping out?

 

[PackAttack12]

It was a question, not a statement. I didn’t say he deserves no blame.

I just think that deciphering between play calling problems and play execution problems can be tricky and is often really difficult from the outside.

You mentioned you thought he’d been bad all year. So I wondered if you had specific reasoning for pinning it more on the calls than the execution.

The execution has obviously been suspect from the get go. I think we all acknowledge that. But I think something that hasn't been discussed much is the possibility that MLF is contributing toward some of it at times with what I believe to be questionable play calls.

 

[weeds]

Studs: Bengal fans! Classy bunch of fans, friendly and congratutorial after the game.

Looked like a cop eye-balling you there P.B. ...you WERE wearing pants...right?

 

[gopkrs]

Super Dud. Barry for calling a two man rush at the end of the half. A two or a three man rush are basically the same. The QB gets all the fuking time he needs or wants.
Dud. LaFleur for having a DC that will call a 2 or a 3 man rush.

 

[Dantés]

The execution has obviously been suspect from the get go. I think we all acknowledge that. But I think something that hasn't been discussed much is the possibility that MLF is contributing toward some of it at times with what I believe to be questionable play calls.

Yes, I understand. I think my questions are coming across as passive aggressive counter points.

I’m literally asking how you came to that conclusion.