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For some of you that are new to losing in the playoffs and especially in the NFCCG.

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It's time to move on from Rogers . Teams with garropolos and 6 pass attempts are winning

You do realize that Rodgers doesn't make all that much more than Garoppolo?

Rodgers alone isn't the problem, he needs better guys around him and a consistent defense.

No QB would have guided the Packer team to a win tonight.
 

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Let's see. Holding onto the ball too long. Missing an open receiver for a first down. Fumbling on third down and putting us in a hole. Pulling out too early and fumbling a snap resulting in a turnover. All three of those were drive killers. Other than that, he had a GREAT first half!
I bet he held the ball longer in the 2nd half. which open receiver. The fumble was because a guard can't block a DB 1 on 1 and gave him a free shot at a QB who thought he had it blocked up and not a single receiver recognizing a blitz to give him a target and a Center that can't get him the ball.

try again
 

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You do realize that Rodgers doesn't make all that much more than Garoppolo?

Rodgers alone isn't the problem, he needs better guys around him and a consistent defense.

No QB would have guided the Packer team to a win tonight.
I couldn't tell if that guy was being serious or not, so I just avoided it LOL
 

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It's time to move on from Rogers . Teams with garropolos and 6 pass attempts are winning . No one player worth the money. Specially with first half performance. By Martinez . Inside lbs bad. Clard didn't even earn it tonight . Can t believe a team that tanked on purpose to get bosa won. Play calling was crap. Worst first half ever. Wish Rogers showed some Brett Favre passion. Ug... Hardcore rooting for chiefs

A lot of people seem to think that MVP Rodgers will be back someday as if they are waiting on the messiah. It's not happening. There is a stark contrast between Rodgers now and Rodgers before he broke his clavicle. The accuracy isn't there like before. He has become tentative. He has become so obsessed with never throwing an INT that he no longer looks to throw into tight windows until desperation time. His decline over the past 2 seasons is about 25% physical and 75% mental. He can get the mental portion of that back, but first he has to admit to himself that there's a problem. I have my doubts that he can do that though. Either way, it's time to keep an eye open for the next guy over the next couple years.
 
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Which begs the question, in hindsight, should we have just gone for it on 4th down? We clearly had momentum going our way and then after that it just went downhill from there.

I cant remember which of the FOX guys said it before the game, maybe Jimmy Johnson? They said the Packers are just going to have to throw everything at it to win, fake punts, onside kicks, etc. He was right. The Packers went out there thinking they could play toe to toe with the 49'ers and they were wrong. We forced no turnovers and committed 3, when your defense isn't stopping the other team and your offense can't run the ball, that right there will lose at least 9 out of 10 games.

I was also very disappointed that once again, despite being way behind in the second half, there was absolutely zero urgency on the offenses part. No hurry up until the very end, guys walking slowly to the huddle and then getting most plays off with under 10 on the play clock. Hell there was one time, with the clock running, I thought they were going to get another delay of game. MLF needs to change up the pace of the offense on occasion, especially when you are 2+ scores behind and your defense isn't holding the other team from scoring.
 
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Falling behind early was the dagger. Had we scored first and not turned the ball over it could have been an different game. Unfortunately, the D was not prepared at all.

But when you see a team like the 49ers who are stacked with talent everywhere, by comparison we are no match. How can anyone expect a team to get to a SB with one trusted WR and only a handful of difference makers elsewhere on the team? The talent gap between the two teams was glaring. And depressing because of how it impacts us in these big games. That’s on the Packers org.
 

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A lot of people seem to think that MVP Rodgers will be back someday as if they are waiting on the messiah. It's not happening. There is a stark contrast between Rodgers now and Rodgers before he broke his clavicle. The accuracy isn't there like before. He has become tentative. He has become so obsessed with never throwing an INT that he no longer looks to throw into tight windows until desperation time. His decline over the past 2 seasons is about 25% physical and 75% mental. He can get the mental portion of that back, but first he has to admit to himself that there's a problem. I have my doubts that he can do that though. Either way. It's time to keep an eye open for the next guy over the next couple years.
I think you are wrong on many fronts
 

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I bet he held the ball longer in the 2nd half. which open receiver. The fumble was because a guard can't block a DB 1 on 1 and gave him a free shot at a QB who thought he had it blocked up and not a single receiver recognizing a blitz to give him a target and a Center that can't get him the ball.

try again

You're so weak. My points stand. You want to blame HIM fumbling on someone else? That's BS. He's a VETERAN former MVP quarterback. He should have been aware of what is happening around him and either thrown the ball away or secured it properly.
And his center DID HIS JOB. Rodgers started pulling out before he got the ball. That is on HIM and him alone. Let me guess. You're one who still thinks that Rodgers is beyond reproach and still the player he was 5 years ago and any insufficiencies are all someone else's fault.

How about YOU try again?
 

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I think you are wrong on many fronts

I think it's something special when some folks can chalk up the whole game at the feet of the QBs performance after just watching Jimmy G complete 6 passes with SF scoring 37 points.
 

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Let's see. Holding onto the ball too long. Missing an open receiver for a first down. Fumbling on third down and putting us in a hole. Pulling out too early and fumbling a snap resulting in a turnover. All three of those were drive killers. Other than that, he had a GREAT first half!

I'd argue that throw was on Alison as much as Rodgers. Jordy, Jennings, Driver, Adams, hell even Cobb.. that's not an INT they'd understand positioning and the defense and snap their head around before getting to the sticks.

I mean Rodgers as 7/7 on throws and we were already down 17-0 I believe. So he wasn't missing targets.

Fumble was def a combo right there. It was short, but Rodgers pulled back without fully securing.
 

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You're so weak. My points stand. You want to blame HIM fumbling on someone else? That's BS. He's a VETERAN former MVP quarterback. He should have been aware of what is happening around him and either thrown the ball away or secured it properly.
And his center DID HIS JOB. Rodgers started pulling out before he got the ball. That is on HIM and him alone. Let me guess. You're one who still thinks that Rodgers is beyond reproach and still the player he was 5 years ago and any insufficiencies are all someone else's fault.

How about YOU try again?

So the QB needs to be aware of everything at all times and can't make a single mistake, but the guard whose job it is to block is not held to that same standard.. you do realize you sound ridiculous right?
 

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You do realize that Rodgers doesn't make all that much more than Garoppolo?

Rodgers alone isn't the problem, he needs better guys around him and a consistent defense.

No QB would have guided the Packer team to a win tonight.
Or maybe the other guys need a better QB around them.
 

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Rodgers was 31 of 39 with 300+ yards but he needs to go because he should have been 62 of 78 with 600+ so he could have put up enough points to win all by himself. Do I have that right?
 

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Rodgers was 31 of 39 with 300+ yards but he needs to go because he should have been 62 of 78 with 600+ so he could have put up enough points to win all by himself. Do I have that right?

According to this thread yes. Going up against the best D in the league with only 1 NFL caliber NFL receiver and A Jones means you need to make all those UDFA's into the next Jordy,Jennings,Cobb

Dude played well. Even that INT I put more on Alison.... Jordy,Jennings,Cobb,James Jones, Driver. Those types of receivers they don't make that mistake and read the D just like Arod. they LOOK FOR THE BALL before the sticks
 

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We have a bunch of needs. And unfortunately, imho, most of them are on the D side. We can't just plug in any old D lineman and expect any different results. And our 2nd level wasn't on the field.
I thought Adams (2nd half) and AJ played well and showed some fire.
 

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So the QB needs to be aware of everything at all times and can't make a single mistake, but the guard whose job it is to block is not held to that same standard.. you do realize you sound ridiculous right?

You do realize the player who is actually holding the ball is responsible for securing it, right? You're ridiculous for suggesting otherwise.
 

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Duds: Terry Bradshaw, who said he thought the 49ers would win, but he picked the Packers by ONE point because he needed to gain some ground for their sportscasters poll. Save us the condescending, Bradshaw.

Regarding Rodgers, yeah he looked better in the second half, but is there any doubt the 49ers were playing softer D with that huge lead? Two INTs and three fumbles.

By the way, since our 2010 Super Bowl win, the 49ers have put together TWO different teams to reach the Super Bowl, and we weren't able to get by either one of them.

And finally, the Super Bowl has too much red in it.
 

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You do realize that Rodgers doesn't make all that much more than Garoppolo?

Rodgers alone isn't the problem, he needs better guys around him and a consistent defense.

No QB would have guided the Packer team to a win tonight.

Rodgers of 4-5 years ago probably would have won it. He was awful in the first half, and game over. He's had a lot of awful moments the last 2-3 years.
 

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Well, it was fun while it lasted. I am not going to take the game apart. There were quite a few mistakes made but the reality is SF is a better team then we are.

I am disappointed that we were not more competitive, but lets face it, SF has more talent then we do.

It also seems to me that Rodgers is caught between the old way and the new way. If I understand it correctly, LaFleur's offense is dependent on the QB getting the ball out fast and playing fast. Aaron rarely gets the ball snapped before he only has 1 second or in some cases no seconds left. What that tells me is that he does not feel all that comfortable in this system. There were a lot of times this season when he appeared to not know what to do. Next season the offense should be much improved. Kansas City made it to the AFC championship 2 seasons in a row. There is no reason that the Packers couldn't do the same thing.

I am proud of what the Pack did this season. They over-achieved and made to the NFC Championship. It was a fun season and now we have to wait about 4 months to get back to it.
 

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Rodgers of 4-5 years ago probably would have won it. He was awful in the first half, and game over. He's had a lot of awful moments the last 2-3 years.
Remember he's got that .500 road record. Plus just from an eye check he doesn't usually play well against elite defenses. I mean I know that's what elite defenses do, but he's supposed to be the "greatest passer of the ball ever" if you buy into the hype.
 
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