Is it time?

[Magooch]

So say you have to choose: #13 only or Their 2nd also 3rd and an additional 3rd/4th in 2024 which would probably be conditional....

Hypothetically speaking here's where they are presently valued (Rich Hill model)

2023 Jets 1st #13 - 336

2023 Jets 2nd #43 - 138
2023 Jets 3rd #74 - 64
And I think *generally speaking* a next-year pick is often valued about the same as one round lower this year (i.e. a 2024 3rd would be valued about like a 2023 4th) so let's say we also get their 2024 3rd AND it's possible to become a conditional 2nd. So we will at present value that about the same as another 2023 3rd so just say another 64 pts.
Total - 266

By my count, even (2) 2023 2nds and (1) 2023 3rd would be just flirting with equal value to their #13... So for me they would really have to pony up a fair bit into future picks and/or just more volume in general if they're not willing to part with #13. If they are willing to give that up I'd for sure take that option; if nothing else having #13 and #15 gives you a ton of flexibility to move around/trade down and come away with a lot of quality assets.

 

[Jayzee1981]

Assuming he’s going to the Jets, #13 is free and clear to start at the very least. Like someone earlier said and I’m too lazy to scroll up to see who, I’d like to see the Packers take on a decent chunk of his salary so we could maybe get a better return since this has dragged on as long as it has. This upcoming year and probably next are gonna be Love’s growing pain years and personally I don’t think this defense is going to reach its maximum potential with our DC. He needs to go asap

 

[RRyder]

If Rodgers is traded for less (or equivalent) then the corpses of Matt Ryan and Carson Wentz then Gute needs to be fired.

Blah blah blah situation, contract etc etc etc. No excuses. He should've been traded a year ago and if he can't find real value on this one then he needs to be gone for that mistake

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If Rodgers is traded for less (or equivalent) then the corpses of Matt Ryan and Carson Wentz then Gute needs to be fired.

Blah blah blah situation, contract etc etc etc. No excuses. He should've been traded a year ago and if he can't find real value on this one then he needs to be gone for that mistake

?

Colts gave up a 3rd round pick (#82) for Ryan.

Commanders got Wentz by swapping 2nd round picks, a 3rd in 2022 and a conditional 3rd round in 2023.

I seriously doubt the Packers get anywhere near that little for Rodgers. Also, keep in mind that Rodgers may be/has been great on the field, but some may not want to deal with him off the field and that will be reflected in a lower trade value.

 

[weeds]

In the end all we can do is speculate. Now that Carr is now a Saint, something is telling me the Jets may have heard that they may be a trade coming their way (just speculation). Honestly I just hope that the GBP can do everything they can to keep the fans happy. But honestly, that isn't possible, as you can't keep everyone happy with millions of fans. I hope we can see what Love can do, with more than just one real game, but either way, my attitude is (and will always be), let's go.

Half of the fan base will be p*seed either way ... I'm with those who say "move on" even though '23 will be ugly.

 

[tynimiller]

If Rodgers is traded for less (or equivalent) then the corpses of Matt Ryan and Carson Wentz then Gute needs to be fired.

Blah blah blah situation, contract etc etc etc. No excuses. He should've been traded a year ago and if he can't find real value on this one then he needs to be gone for that mistake

I think its very safe to assume that isn't happening so rest easy.

 

[Magooch]

Demovsky saying now that Jets officials are flying out to meet Rodgers in person today.

 

[Magooch]

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Jets players starting their charm offensive as well...

 

[OldSchool101]

So say you have to choose: #13 only or Their 2nd also 3rd and an additional 3rd/4th in 2024 which would probably be conditional....

obviously I respect your thoughts but #13 is not too steep a price to pay at all. If it was a top 5 selection then I see more your point on swapping Day 1’s etc.
Truthfully #13 is a smidge light

I’d like to see in the area of
2023 #13, 3rd rounder
2024 swap of 2nd and 3rd round
(If Aaron plays)
or at minimum a 2024-4th Rounder.

There’s a good chance we see slightly more or slightly less than that scenario depending

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Half of the fan base will be p*seed either way ... I'm with those who say "move on" even though '23 will be ugly.

As ugly as 2022 with Aaron?

 

[OldSchool101]

As ugly as 2022 with Aaron?

Things can’t get any uglier than our offseason’s of not knowing if we get custody of the kid.

 

[Firethorn1001]

Demovsky saying now that Jets officials are flying out to meet Rodgers in person today.

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[OldSchool101]

I know you didn't ask me But you for sure take the #13 pick. That pick is probably close to twice the value of your other package. They could trade that 13th pick for a first round and a second round, heck the other team might even throw in a 3rd rounder, depending on where their first round pick was.

That’s it.
Plus my pride is at stake! My whole theory of a contingency plan revolves around pick #13. In that same format of our 2018 draft we could trade back later Day 1 (using #15) and get a 2024 Day1.
Then use a mid rounder (such as a 3rd or 4th acquired in the trade) ti trade back into the lower twenties. That’s an area we can get a great top rated TE locked (staying ahead of a grouping of teams needing TE in the mid 20’s)
If Jordan goes south then we’re picking top 10 next season. We’d have the firepower to move into a top 2-4 selection (for QB) overall with 2 Day 1’s.


#13 Edge/WR
#23 TE (traded up with #111)
#45 WR/Edge/DL
#77
#79
#143
Etc.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

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[weeds]

As ugly as 2022 with Aaron?

Ohhhhhh... more ugly..... but I'm not deterred, see, I don't dislike Rodgers, his kookiness or the fact he had a sh*tty thumb all year. I never want to see that damned haircut again. He lost me when he walked away from Olivia Munn.

...but yeah... worse than last year... I'm guessing 6-11 -- all things being equal. You see, I can't judge Love on 9 completions. Similarly, I didn't think Rodgers would cut it.

 

[tynimiller]

I wonder if Corey Davis is a player that may come back our way....Jets were most likely cutting ties anyways and saving nearly $11M with less than $700K dead money by cutting him....

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Ohhhhhh... more ugly..... but I'm not deterred, see, I don't dislike Rodgers, his kookiness or the fact he had a sh*tty thumb all year. I never want to see that damned haircut again. He lost me when he walked away from Olivia Munn.

...but yeah... worse than last year... I'm guessing 6-11 -- all things being equal. You see, I can't judge Love on 9 completions. Similarly, I didn't think Rodgers would cut it.

Had it not been for all the BS by Rodgers and the Packers as well, I would have loved to have seen him finish his career in GB. However, the last 3 years has been mostly about Rodgers and its acutally kind of sucked. So I am looking forward to moving on and getting back to things being about the Packers all the time. Maybe we miss 1-5 years of Rodgers playing QB, but we get something back for him and that will help to start life without Rodgers.

As far as ugly seasons, I think having to win 4 out of your last 5 games, just to finish @ 8-9 and not being in the playoffs is uglier than finishing 4-13 and being in the hunt for the #1 pick, but that is me.

 

[RRyder]

I think its very safe to assume that isn't happening so rest easy.

Interesting cause you've suggested a trade extremely similar to what Wentz went for (just without a pick swapped 2nd)

If they don't get a 1st + extra it's fireable malpractice on Gutes part.

 

[Schultz]

We probably should stop posting things about Rodgers, because none of the rumors are true until Aaron himself confirms, I heard that here. Also heard here, nothing really happens until March 15th in the NFL, so we all should really wait for that date before discussing further.

Dang, I wish you would have suggested this weeks ago because reading the same tired crap day after day is tiresome. Now I know here comes the if you don't like it don't read it. The problem there is I don't know that it's the same old crap until after I read it. That is your fault by the way, because you do post some good and relevant stuff at times.

 

[Schultz]

Had it not been for all the BS by Rodgers and the Packers as well, I would have loved to have seen him finish his career in GB. However, the last 3 years has been mostly about Rodgers and its acutally kind of sucked. So I am looking forward to moving on and getting back to things being about the Packers all the time. Maybe we miss 1-5 years of Rodgers playing QB, but we get something back for him and that will help to start life without Rodgers.

As far as ugly seasons, I think having to win 4 out of your last 5 games, just to finish @ 8-9 and not being in the playoffs is uglier than finishing 4-13 and being in the hunt for the #1 pick, but that is me.

Sorry Poker I owe you an apology. Now that I realize just how much you prefer losing and getting high draft picks it makes all the sense in the world why you want to see AR gone. Again my bad.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Dang, I wish you would have suggested this weeks ago because reading the same tired crap day after day is tiresome. Now I know here comes the if you don't like it don't read it. The problem there is I don't know that it's the same old crap until after I read it. That is your fault by the way, because you do post some good and relevant stuff at times.

Thanks? I think?

The funny thing about the conversations about Rodgers, yes it was very repetitive and some unsubstantiated stuff, but I bet it was the same stuff we all talked about in 2022 and 2021. I wasn't on the forum when Favre invented the Green Bay Waffle, but guessing Packer fans reacted pretty much the same to that. I know that a few people got offended because they felt that some of us are Rodgers haters. I never saw more than 1 or 2 posters put stuff up, that would make me think that, but the rest of us were mainly just tired of the BS games that were being played. Guessing that the Packers FO was sick of it too and it is why we are here, talking about trading one of the best to ever play the game.

Sorry Poker I owe you an apology. Now that I realize just how much you prefer losing and getting high draft picks it makes all the sense in the world why you want to see AR gone. Again my bad.

LOL

Well if that is what you want to take away from all the things I have said about the last 5 games of the 2022 season as "preferring to lose", than so be it, not going to rehash that subject.

 

[OldSchool101]

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Funny. That scene looks like what I imagine is our group of forum members in real life.


I’ve got you pegged as the Office Manager, Michael and @captainWIMM as Dwight
I identify with Jim Halpert
I see @Pkrjones as playing Brian Baumgartner

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We’re individually dysfunctional, but put together as a group we are much different and surprisingly… it just works

 

[weeds]

That is your fault by the way, because you do post some good and relevant stuff at times.

I've heard the war of 1812 was his fault too...but has he taken responsibility?...nooo-oo--oooo... accountability damn it. Heads gotta roll.

 

[Pkrjones]

Funny. That scene looks like what I imagine is our group of forum members in real life.


I’ve got you pegged as the Office Manager, Michael and @captainWIMM as Dwight
I identify with Jim Halpert
I see @Pkrjones as playing Brian Baumgartner

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We’re individually dysfunctional, but put together as a group we are much different and surprisingly… it just works

Wow, you've got me pegged!!

 

[Cornelius Weems]

I've heard the war of 1812 was his fault too...but has he taken responsibility?...nooo-oo--oooo... accountability damn it. Heads gotta roll.

I also heard that he was the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll... someone needs to take away his time machine!