The Jordan Love Era Begins

[Pokerbrat2000]

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[Deleted member 6794]

In the 16 days prior to making this post, there were 206 messages posted in this thread. In the 16 days after making this post up until now, there have been just 21 messages posted in this thread.

Usually message boards encourage more activity, not less.

Interesting approach.

What makes it even worse is that most of those posts aren't even about Packers related stuff.

 

[OldSchool101]

What makes it even worse is that most of those posts aren't even about Packers related stuff.

Which is better at a critical low point of activity in a year.
1. A group of posters who goes non existent altogether and has zero input.
or
2. A group of posters who deviate from a topic
or
3. A group of posters who complain, but do not offer any substance whatsoever to the thread because they were too busy whining?

 

[gopkrs]

We may have a 3 way tie.

 

[OldSchool101]

We may have a 3 way tie.

Maybe. I’ll take #2 over #1 and anything over #3. Matter of fact I’d prefer #3 go #1

3,543 Yards
22 TD’s passing
11 INT
62.4% comp
91.7% Passer rating

 

[SudsMcBucky]

We may have a 3 way tie.

Off topic, but I keep mis-reading your Username as Gophers and I throw up a little in my mouth when seeing that word.

 

[Schultz]

Which is better at a critical low point of activity in a year.
1. A group of posters who goes non existent altogether and has zero input.
or
2. A group of posters who deviate from a topic
or
3. A group of posters who complain, but do not offer any substance whatsoever to the thread because they were too busy whining?

I just want to be clear. In our disagreements I hardly ever considered you guys to be whiners.

 

[OldSchool101]

I just want to be clear. In our disagreements I hardly ever considered you guys to be whiners.

that’s so kind. I’m tearing up

I. I.. I think I love you Schultzy

PS. Even I whine sometimes. I just don’t put it in writing quite like you. Lol

 

[longtimefan]

In the 16 days prior to making this post, there were 206 messages posted in this thread. In the 16 days after making this post up until now, there have been just 21 messages posted in this thread.

Usually message boards encourage more activity, not less.

Interesting approach.

And since this post
Indgaf

 

[longtimefan]

Now that Rodgers has stated he intends to play for the Jets and there's nothing that could change that. In Aaron’s words, will Love be a great player?

Im saying yes because there are just too many coincidences and it just seems like the right time in history for the Love era to bring GB multiple SB titles

And this was the original post. And again idgaf about anything else other then what Love can do

Or what's Love got to do with it

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Which is better at a critical low point of activity in a year.
1. A group of posters who goes non existent altogether and has zero input.
or
2. A group of posters who deviate from a topic
or
3. A group of posters who complain, but do not offer any substance whatsoever to the thread because they were too busy whining?

Once again, having a different opinion or being critical of the front office shouldn't be considered as whining. You said it yourself, everyone around here is entitled to an opinion. I wonder why it seems there are a lot of posters who only live by that as long as decisions by the team aren't questioned in any way.

While it's true that currently there's a low point of activity the forum has been much more busy in recent years between the end of offseason practices and training camp. I guess that's what you get when you threaten posters to be banned for talking about stuff related to the team.

 

[AmishMafia]

Once again, having a different opinion or being critical of the front office shouldn't be considered as whining. You said it yourself, everyone around here is entitled to an opinion. I wonder why it seems there are a lot of posters who only live by that as long as decisions by the team aren't questioned in any way.

While it's true that currently there's a low point of activity the forum has been much more busy in recent years between the end of offseason practices and training camp. I guess that's what you get when you threaten posters to be banned for talking about stuff related to the team.

Once again nobody GAF about criticizing the front office. It's the incessant blaming the FO for everything and refusing to find an iota of fault in Rodgers. Defending him with such fervor it reaches some kind of cult status and placing him in such a pedestal that his feelings are more important than the Packers and their success. Justifying his snears, selfish attitude, and poor leadership as appropriate because of winning MVPs in past seasons. And let me guess, you we be befuddled by anyone who can say such things about your hero.

 

[Voyageur]

Once again nobody GAF about criticizing the front office. It's the incessant blaming the FO for everything and refusing to find an iota of fault in Rodgers. Defending him with such fervor it reaches some kind of cult status and placing him in such a pedestal that his feelings are more important than the Packers and their success. Justifying his snears, selfish attitude, and poor leadership as appropriate because of winning MVPs in past seasons. And let me guess, you we be befuddled by anyone who can say such things about your hero.

There's a reason I have never worn a jersey, or any apparel with a player's name on it. I'm a Packer fan, not a hero worshiper. I'm a believer in the word "team." There are 11 guys on the field on each play, and they need to do their jobs together to succeed. As soon as one player believes he's above the team, the chemistry for success is gone.

A look back, to the old Dolphins, and their "no-name defense" of 1972, and their 14-0 season, and championship, you see the total concept of "team play." Front offices need to remember this, and coaches need to promote it, so nobody gets too big for their britches. To me, Rodgers was another guy who had a fantastic opportunity to be part of a special team. It's too bad he didn't realize how lucky he had it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Once again nobody GAF about criticizing the front office. It's the incessant blaming the FO for everything and refusing to find an iota of fault in Rodgers. Defending him with such fervor it reaches some kind of cult status and placing him in such a pedestal that his feelings are more important than the Packers and their success. Justifying his snears, selfish attitude, and poor leadership as appropriate because of winning MVPs in past seasons. And let me guess, you we be befuddled by anyone who can say such things about your hero.

It is interesting how things get interpreted by some. Those few, seem to feel that if you are critical of Rodgers, you are an ungrateful fan (Rodgers fan) and giving the Front Office a pass. I can't name one poster or even a Packer fan that I know, that puts the FO on such an untouchable pedestal. As a matter of fact, I see more negative things written about coaches, Murphy and Gute on this forum than all the Packer players. Which I don't have a problem with, the coaches and FO should be accountable for their mistakes, but they should also receive credit, where and when credit is due.

This goes for players too. Rodgers has received a ton of love (no pun intended) from fans and the media during his time as a Packer. 10 years ago, Rodgers could do no wrong and actually, he did very little wrong. That started to change in the last 5 or so years and if you didn't see that change or keep pointing to "but he won 2 MVP's" as the rationale to not see or talk about that change, then you might want to take off your green and gold immunity blinders. The Front office made mistakes too, as did the coaches. Nobody is perfect and that includes Aaron Rodgers.

 

[AmishMafia]

It is interesting how things get interpreted by some. Those few, seem to feel that if you are critical of Rodgers, you are an ungrateful fan (Rodgers fan) and giving the Front Office a pass. I can't name one poster or even a Packer fan that I know, that puts the FO on such an untouchable pedestal. As a matter of fact, I see more negative things written about coaches, Murphy and Gute on this forum than all the Packer players. Which I don't have a problem with, the coaches and FO should be accountable for their mistakes, but they should also receive credit, where and when credit is due.

This goes for players too. Rodgers has received a ton of love (no pun intended) from fans and the media during his time as a Packer. 10 years ago, Rodgers could do no wrong and actually, he did very little wrong. That started to change in the last 5 or so years and if you didn't see that change or keep pointing to "but he won 2 MVP's" as the rationale to not see or talk about that change, then you might want to take off your green and gold immunity blinders. The Front office made mistakes too, as did the coaches. Nobody is perfect and that includes Aaron Rodgers.

It is tough to be impartial as a fan and be objective. I was a big MM fan - but I had to admit the game passed him by and he needed replacing. Still I separate the person from the job and he is one of the classiest people the Packers have had as a coach or any member of the organization for that matter.

Same for Ted Thompson. I know some of the behind the scenes there and it still galls me the hatred directed at him and the love for Favre. If Thompson allowed the whole story to get out, Favres popularity would have dwindled to where it is now much sooner. (Stealing money from people on welfare? Good grief). But TT kept issues under wraps for a reason, because the Packers might suffer, so he calmly accepted the hatred to protect the franchise. But it was time for the franchise to move on from him.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It is tough to be impartial as a fan and be objective. I was a big MM fan - but I had to admit the game passed him by and he needed replacing. Still I separate the person from the job and he is one of the classiest people the Packers have had as a coach or any member of the organization for that matter.

Same for Ted Thompson. I know some of the behind the scenes there and it still galls me the hatred directed at him and the love for Favre. If Thompson allowed the whole story to get out, Favres popularity would have dwindled to where it is now much sooner. Stealing money from people on welfare? Good grief. But TT kept it under wraps for a reason, because the Packers might suffer, so he calmly accepted the hatred to protect the franchise.

Agree

We as fans probably don't know the half of what goes on behind the scenes, in the locker room, on the sidelines or even in the huddle. So yes, our opinions may get formed based on half truths, limited knowledge and what the organization wants the general public to hear. That said, some things are very hard to hide, no matter how they are spun. I still love Rodgers, for what he did for the Packers, on the field. I just grew tired of all the BS off the field.

 

[AmishMafia]

Agree

We as fans probably don't know the half of what goes on behind the scenes, in the locker room, on the sidelines or even in the huddle. So yes, our opinions may get formed based on half truths, limited knowledge and what the organization wants the general public to hear. That said, some things are very hard to hide, no matter how they are spun. I still love Rodgers, for what he did for the Packers, on the field. I just grew tired of all the BS off the field.

Fan of the player and not the person.

I sometimes wonder if the certain devoted fans of the world are not responsible for the change in behavior. Both Rodgers and Favre were very likable and genuine people. But years on that pedestal being constantly adored may start the thought process that it is all about them. Could you have imagined 16 years ago that Rodgers would be describing himself as the greatest player in Packer history? Forget if it's warranted or not - just doing that would not have been expected then given his humility and gentle nature.

 

[longtimefan]

It is tough to be impartial as a fan and be objective. I was a big MM fan - but I had to admit the game passed him by and he needed replacing. Still I separate the person from the job and he is one of the classiest people the Packers have had as a coach or any member of the organization for that matter.

Same for Ted Thompson. I know some of the behind the scenes there and it still galls me the hatred directed at him and the love for Favre. If Thompson allowed the whole story to get out, Favres popularity would have dwindled to where it is now much sooner. (Stealing money from people on welfare? Good grief). But TT kept issues under wraps for a reason, because the Packers might suffer, so he calmly accepted the hatred to protect the franchise. But it was time for the franchise to move on from him.

Is the rumor true brett called Ted a certain word and Ted heard it?

 

[Voyageur]

Fan of the player and not the person.

I sometimes wonder if the certain devoted fans of the world are not responsible for the change in behavior. Both Rodgers and Favre were very likable and genuine people. But years on that pedestal being constantly adored may start the thought process that it is all about them. Could you have imagined 16 years ago that Rodgers would be describing himself as the greatest player in Packer history? Forget if it's warranted or not - just doing that would not have been expected then given his humility and gentle nature.

Exactly my point. A fan of the team. When people turn athletes into living gods, as if they could do no wrong, their ego gets in the way of reality, and they no longer believe they answer to anyone. When their luster begins to fade, people turn on them like piranha do their own, if wounded. It isn't fair to either, the athlete, or the fan, to end up in that cycle.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Fan of the player and not the person.

I sometimes wonder if the certain devoted fans of the world are not responsible for the change in behavior. Both Rodgers and Favre were very likable and genuine people. But years on that pedestal being constantly adored may start the thought process that it is all about them. Could you have imagined 16 years ago that Rodgers would be describing himself as the greatest player in Packer history? Forget if it's warranted or not - just doing that would not have been expected then given his humility and gentle nature.

Amen on "fan of the player, not the person". Fortunately, we can, if we choose to, separate the two in our minds.

Humbleness goes a long way and sadly, todays modern athletes have lost sight of that. Even Giannis is starting to lose a bit of his humbleness.

The sports/teams will live well beyond the player/person and yes, people will remember the player and what he did for the team. However, what he didn't do for the team or the negatives, will probably be etched a little bolder in most our memories of said player.

 

[Schultz]

I just realized I have never worn a jersey with a players name on it. I never even thought about that before. It is very possible and in my case 100% the case that being a fan of the team is why I wanted Rodgers to still be the QB of the team. I am not sold on Love. I believe the Packers would have a better team with AR. The division is weak. None of my heroes play professional sports. If that was a pre-requisite I would never be able to watch a professional sporting event again. I know the counter argument is time to re-build, young players, draft picks, cap room. Good arguments. IMO, in this day and age teams go from last to first more often than ever, rebuilds do not take as long. I felt it was still a little pre-mature. The main ingredient, a QB on a rookie deal has shortened time wise. Again, I expect Love to struggle, as curiously it seems so do others. In my case I hope I am wrong as a fan of the team and will gladly eat crow. I just wonder if others are just hedging their position to not have to eat crow.

 

[longtimefan]

I just realized I have never worn a jersey with a players name on it. I never even thought about that before. It is very possible and in my case 100% the case that being a fan of the team is why I wanted Rodgers to still be the QB of the team. I am not sold on Love. I believe the Packers would have a better team with AR. The division is weak. None of my heroes play professional sports. If that was a pre-requisite I would never be able to watch a professional sporting event again. I know the counter argument is time to re-build, young players, draft picks, cap room. Good arguments. IMO, in this day and age teams go from last to first more often than ever, rebuilds do not take as long. I felt it was still a little pre-mature. The main ingredient, a QB on a rookie deal has shortened time wise. Again, I expect Love to struggle, as curiously it seems so do others. In my case I hope I am wrong as a fan of the team and will gladly eat crow. I just wonder if others are just hedging their position to not have to eat crow.

Of course love will struggle. I don't see anyone saying he can be what Aaron was

 

[Pkrjones]

Of course love will struggle. I don't see anyone saying he can be what Aaron was

I will, just to keep inane arguments going for another week. I actually do think Love will do well this season & ease the transition to another 15 years of stellar QB play.

 

[longtimefan]

I will, just to keep inane arguments going for another week. I actually do think Love will do well this season & ease the transition to another 15 years of stellar QB play.

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[longtimefan]

Once again, having a different opinion or being critical of the front office shouldn't be considered as whining. You said it yourself, everyone around here is entitled to an opinion. I wonder why it seems there are a lot of posters who only live by that as long as decisions by the team aren't questioned in any way.

While it's true that currently there's a low point of activity the forum has been much more busy in recent years between the end of offseason practices and training camp. I guess that's what you get when you threaten posters to be banned for talking about stuff related to the team.

Since you want to complain about me ( which I told you to stop)

Let me get this out.

Stop twisting my stance...That is not what I was getting at.. You and few others know that. But you posters need to twist things to fit your agenda and whine because you won't stop a 3 year old debate.


Have good 4 month vacation

Everyone stop twisting words

Who is next?