Huge wall of text eh? Alright then it's been awhile since I've went into full debate mode. This should be fun.
The experts thought that the Chcicago Bears was the best in the division, and that the Detroit Lions were on their way up. Minnesota at second best leaves the Green Bay Packers at last in the division back then. We played the worst division n the NFC East for 4 games. We played Denver, Chargers, Raiders, and Kansas City, only one of those teams was a contender and we played them when they were without their MVP QB. The Chargers embarassed us. Philadelphia embarassed us. Detroit about embarassed us. Please name the fully healthy playoff team that we beat convincingly during the season. You can't name that team because it never happened.
So let me get this straight, because I'm not fully grasping the point you're trying to make with your starting sentence. By your first sentence alone, you proved my point in regards that The Packers did in fact have a tougher schedule, especially considering the factors such as a new coach, new system, inexperienced receivers, Rodgers coming back from an injury, and the difficulties in regards to our opponents improved. Plus let's also bring up the fact that you failed to mention that The Chargers along with KC were previous playoff teams from last year, along with Dallas, and Philly was a formidable opponent. As for the opponents goes:
1. How did Philly embarrass us when they barely beat us? So if according to your logic if the opposing team scores multiple points against us they embarrassed us? That's interesting logic, if we go by that same logic, then NO got "embarassed" far more than us as they've played several games in which they gave up 24 or more points.
2. You keep bringing up how KC played without Mahomes, and yet you CONTINUE to ignore the fact that had he played and "lost" I guarantee, people like yourself would've used his injury as an excuse, even though Matt Moore did pretty well in that game and honestly did enough for them to win. Plus again you negate the fact that A. KC had the better offensive weapons, had HFA, and had the better head coach who's made a career of being a quarterback whisperer.
3. As for us beating a playoff team convincingly, tell you what, name another playoff team besides San Fran's win over us, that beat another playoff team convincingly. That fact that you're putting a lot of stock in regards to how we win in the regular season is questionable. Everyone knows that the postseason is a different animal all together, don't believe me, ask NO and Baltimore how things went for them in spite of their "regular season success." Bottomline: At the end of the day, it's all about winning. That's all that matters. You want to see huge leads and "decisive" wins, I suggest you go watch college football.
Matter of fact since KC are the Super Bowl Champs, tell me what game against a playoff team they've won decisively in the regular season? I'm looking at their schedule and the fact of the matter is that they've certainly won "ugly" as well. I will wait.
All of our wins were ugly. Every single one of them. Had Seattle been healthy we would have been one and done. Had Detroit, Minnesota, or Kansas City been healthy we would have been 10-6 or 11-5 and lost in the first round. Aaron Christ Rodgers posted a 21.9 QBR in the NFC championship. The third highest paid player in the whole NFL amongst all positions played a horrid game. He fumbled the ball 3 times, threw two interceptions, looked like Jay Cutler 2.0, and some people think we were one game away from the Super Bowl... We were as close to the Super Bowl as the Dallas Cowboys were last year. The Cowboys had a better offense than the Packers and their QB posted superior numbers than ours did last year. Some of you all kid your selves into believing that Aaron Rodgers is a great QB. His career is now 1-3 in NFC championship games where he has disappeared twice despite superior leads, and then this last loss was him looking like an inferior QB that didn't even belong on the field in an NFL game.
At this point all you're doing is arguing what if scenarios that you have no evidence of backing up or proving. and Bottomline is we won. So let me get this straight, what piece of evidence do you have that had Seattle been healthy, they would've beaten us? Matter of fact I'm curious to how you've drawn that conclusion with Minnesota and Detroit considering we've BEATEN them both times when they were healthy, and the funny thing is when we played Detroit we were WITHOUT key players on both sides of the ball! So I fail to see how you've drawn that conclusion. Matter of fact the same applies when we beat KC now when I think about it!
Every team has injuries, and yes some players are more crucial than others, but don't give me these fantasy what ifs. I've already explained how KC had more than enough to win, and you have no way of proving that Seattle would've beaten us at full strength. Every team plays hurt dude.
As for Rodgers in The NFC Championship game, as I said before Rodgers played horrible, but let me ask you a serious question, who would've played better under those circumstances? The only person you can make an argument for is Mahomes, and honestly I don't think he would've fared any better. The difference is that he has the better weapons, and head coach. I'm not gonna sit here and argue semantics over the fumbles and ints because I already said that Rodgers played poorly, but like I said EVERYONE played poorly outside of Adams.
The God QB that deserves to make $10 million more than Tom Brady eating up the salary of another offensive weapon is supposed to be so good that it doesn't matter who he throws the ball too. He is going to make them super stars. Well the previous two years he was hurt, so the whole team tanks because he is the 3rd highest player in football, and this year he finally got a new coach, he has a running game, and finally a decent defense, he is healthy the whole year, and what is the excuse. Not enough offensive weapons. He couldn't read a blitz against San Francisco. He fumbled the ball 3 times. He threw two interceptions. He hit the defenders in the back of their jerseys in that game. He threw the ball to our receivers feet. The third highest paid player in the NFL.
Good lord...We freaking made it to the NFC Championship in our FIRST YEAR under a new head coach, and you yourself has admitted that The Packers weren't even the favorites to win their division. So which one is it exactly? You complain about how we won ugly in the regular season and didn't have decisive wins, but then our team lead by our QB takes us into a deep playoff run, and somehow he's overpaid? So who exactly other than Mahomes should be paid more than him? Wilson? Brees? Watson? As for San Fran's defense, because I didn't bring this up earlier, as I recall that was the same defense that was giving Mahomes fits as he also threw 2 ints that game, the difference is San Fran decided to abandon the run in which KC players went on and ADMITTED afterwards that they were glad they did because they had no answers for it. Keep in mind Rodgers in spite of his poor performance did manage to bring the game back, unfortunately the defense couldn't hold San Fran's running attack. So let's not pretend that SF's defense doesn't give opposing teams headaches. Mahomes didn't have a good game either.
How do you think we get to the 1 seed when the last week of the regular season we struggled against the Detroit Lions? The Detroit Lions were 3-12-1 and we barely eeked by with a 23-20 vicotry against one of the worst teams in the NFL. We were down 17-3 at the half. We were down 20-13 in the third quarter. Please tell me how much of a power house the Green Bay Packers were, losing to the Detroit Lions with a home field game and a bye on the line losing to one of the worst teams in the NFL last year. Everyone was healthy and everyone was playing. Aaron Rodgers posted a 35.9 QBR that game as well. Aaron Rodgers is not a top 20 QB any more. Sorry to break it to you. It is reality.
Didn't SF barely beat Seattle that same week, if not for a none PI call, and Carrol being an idiot (yet again)? I seem to recall KC making it to the Superbowl with the 2 seed. You seem to put a lot of stock into QBR, which again is a bs stat. If it was that good then guys like Dak would've made it to the playoffs and have a winning record right? I had to bold that just to make sure I read that right. I think we're done here. If you truly believe that what you said then there's really nothing more to be said. Name 20 other QBs that are better than Rodgers.
Yes. Rodgers is 1-3 in NFC championship games. We have made excuses about the run game, the defense, the coach. Everyone but Rodgers. This last loss it was all Rodgers. 100% Rodgers. Watch the game and tell me where he wasn't the problem. He looked like Jay Cutler just panicking, fumbling, throwing horrid passes, like a chicken with his head cut off. He didn't look like a QB that you make the 3rd highest paid player in the NFL. He looked like a QB who couldn't lead a team to a Super Bowl, and what is worse, he looked like a QB that didn't really care if he won or lost.
So Rodgers was responsible for the defense giving up over 300 yards to a 3rd string RB and making him look like the second coming of Jim Brown? You know what? I got nothing to say if that's truly the conclusion you've drawn. I'm just gonna say I respectfully disagree completely.
