Packers trade up to #21.....S Darnell Savage

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https://twitter.com/IKE_Packers/status/1121613773649924096

 

[GleefulGary]

I'll admit getting Savage makes me wish we'd cut Tramon even more now than ever before...lot of money ate up by Tramon, and I am hoping he is a reserve player honestly.

He can play slot CB yet. He's a solid backup.

 

[sschind]

Really like the player a lot. Obviously, I don't have the insight that the front office has, but it really doesn't seem like we needed to trade up to get this player though. Must have been some sort of buzz around him that someone else might take him, but just seems like we trash binned a lot of draft capital for an unnecessary move up.

Just a note on this, if you can trust Reddit intel, allegedly Savage was a likely target of the Colts.

Savage was moving up a lot of boards from what I had been reading. Seems the football people were high on him and the media was finally getting wind of it. I'm not sure he would have been there at 30 and since I was hoping they might use 1 of the 4th rounders to move up anyway the way I see it we threw in Ha Ha Clinton Dix to get Darnell Savage.

I know I am not a scout. But I thought there were several safeties who were closely ranked with Savage. Adderely, Chauncey Gardner, and Abram, I would have also been happy with. I even mocked Savage to us in the late 2nd. He is a really good player.

I think Safety was our biggest need, but I really thought we could still get a good one at 2.44. Obviously Gute had Savage ranked higher than consensus amateurs and felt the difference to the #2 safety on his list was a bigger gap than the value of a pair of 4th rounders.

The trade value is fair, and I am happy with the pick. Time will tell how much better he is than the other safeties, but we just got a tremendous player, who fits exactly what we need.

That's the key. Do we wait and get a guy we like almost as well or do we pull the trigger and get the guy we want. I prefer the more aggressive route. GMs who sit and wait for the draft to come to them get players no one else wants. If you or any of the other pretenders on here were the GM and you waited until #30 and drafted someone else I'd be backing you as well. I just think that these guys are the ones pulling the trigger and even though some are better than others at it they have earned the right to be given the benefit of the doubt at the very least. Especially until they have shown they can't handle the job. It all comes down to the fact that your boards don't always match up with their boards and I get and respect why you (not you specifically Amish) don't like the pick but until I see the guy play I'm not going to put much stock in your "we could have had him later so and so was better we gave up too much to get him" rants.

I won’t harp too much on it, but I’m not in love with either pick. There had to be someone who was going to take him before 30, otherwise Gute got duped. I just pray we’re not looking at another Kentrell Brice because they have almost the same attributes. Hopefully he’s got a way higher football IQ than Brice, Jones, or Haha did. I don’t wanna open the season with Tramon Williams starting at FS. So I’ll be rooting hard for this dude.

I'm guessing if you looked at a lot of busts at whatever position you choose you could find a top player who had almost the same attributes. I'm fairly confident that a legit first rounder who had been moving up the draft boards will not be another undrafted FA

I really, really, like Savage.

He's so versatile, and we know Pettine needs that in his safeties.

When Baltimore (who was rumored to want Savage) traded down right after we took him, and it's been reported the Colts wanted him...it's kinda obvious he wouldn't be there at 30, let alone 44.

And the Raiders took Abram too so they may have been considering him. If the reports are to be believed I kind of doubt he would have been there at 30.

 

[DoURant]

Savage was moving up a lot of boards from what I had been reading. Seems the football people were high on him and the media was finally getting wind of it. I'm not sure he would have been there at 30 and since I was hoping they might use 1 of the 4th rounders to move up anyway the way I see it we threw in Ha Ha Clinton Dix to get Darnell Savage.




That's the key. Do we wait and get a guy we like almost as well or do we pull the trigger and get the guy we want. I prefer the more aggressive route. GMs who sit and wait for the draft to come to them get players no one else wants. If you or any of the other pretenders on here were the GM and you waited until #30 and drafted someone else I'd be backing you as well. I just think that these guys are the ones pulling the trigger and even though some are better than others at it they have earned the right to be given the benefit of the doubt at the very least. Especially until they have shown they can't handle the job. It all comes down to the fact that your boards don't always match up with their boards and I get and respect why you (not you specifically Amish) don't like the pick but until I see the guy play I'm not going to put much stock in your "we could have had him later so and so was better we gave up too much to get him" rants.



I'm guessing if you looked at a lot of busts at whatever position you choose you could find a top player who had almost the same attributes. I'm fairly confident that a legit first rounder who had been moving up the draft boards will not be another undrafted FA



And the Raiders took Abram too so they may have been considering him. If the reports are to be believed I kind of doubt he would have been there at 30.

Rob Demovsky reported last night that the Raiders were looking to pick Savage at #24

 

[thisisnate]

Savage was moving up a lot of boards from what I had been reading. Seems the football people were high on him and the media was finally getting wind of it. I'm not sure he would have been there at 30 and since I was hoping they might use 1 of the 4th rounders to move up anyway the way I see it we threw in Ha Ha Clinton Dix to get Darnell Savage.

Yeah, I really like the player and it does look like a few teams may have wanted him ahead of us. I trust that their eval on him must have been crazy good, so hopefully he balls out. From my armchair, there were a lot of good safeties left for 1.30 or 2.44 that would have left us our two 4th rounders though. We have a lot of holes to fill with two day-2 picks now.

 

[brandon2348]

It was a GIANT REACH and the capital given up was enormous. 114, 118, and 30 for what we got just isn't good enough. There was not an elite safety in this draft so the tendency to reach here for what many believe will be a sub-package and special teams contributor his first year makes zero sense. He isn't ready to play single high free safety by any means.

People can disagree with me all they want and say I OVERVALUE offensive play makers but what the Packers have done on defense is WAY BEYOND anything I could ever come up with.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Just so that I can get ahead of, what will mostly like become a future debate on Savage, the Packers spent 3 picks on him, No.'s 30, 114 and 118.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Knowing this team they'll probably move him to corner.

I wouldn't be surprise if he does some work in the slot against certain matchups. I would be quite surprised if this management team made the same mistake Thompson made with Randall.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

what the Packers have done on defense is WAY BEYOND anything I could ever come up with.

See, now you have me really loving what Gute did last night and before I was just "well, we will see".

 

[brandon2348]

See, now you have me really loving what Gute did last night and before I was just "well, we will see".

I meant "WAY BEYOND" any overvalue possible in my estimations.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I meant "WAY BEYOND" any overvalue possible in my estimations.

But am I correct in saying, had the Packers made the same trade and not selected Savage, but Parris Hilton Campbell, I would expect to have seen this from you?

LOL....I actually did type "Hilton".....but HAD to leave it, because I was laughing so hard thinking about the irony.

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[tynimiller]

But am I correct in saying, had the Packers made the same trade and not selected Savage, but Parris Hilton Campbell, I would expect to have seen this from you?

LOL....I actually did type "Hilton".....but HAD to leave it, because I was laughing so hard thinking about the irony.

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Precisely.

 

[HardRightEdge]

It is easy to draw a comparison between Alexander and Savage. Small frame guys not afraid to stick their nose in it, quick, fast, ball skills, competitive at the ball, instinctual. It's no coincidence that in both cases some analysts projected both these guys to the slot to go against the protypical small, quick receivers.

Make no mistake. These guys are a perimeter corner and a free safety, respecitively. There isn't much doubt about Alexander's spot now, where more upside can be projected, and there shouldn't be with respect to Savage.

Now, situationally, might Savage take on a slot in some man coverages? Sure. Week 3 against KC and Hill might be an example. But make no mistake. Everything about him says his primary role is prowling the back end.

 

[brandon2348]

But am I correct in saying, had the Packers made the same trade and not selected Savage, but Parris Hilton Campbell, I would expect to have seen this from you?

LOL....I actually did type "Hilton".....but HAD to leave it, because I was laughing so hard thinking about the irony.

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Keep on laughing. Well see who is still laughing when this team can't move the ball or even score enough points and hits the cellar of the division.

 

[brandon2348]

I suppose in a way it is kind of funny watching a bunch of Morons run the Green Bay Packers. The fall has been steep.

 

[DoURant]

But am I correct in saying, had the Packers made the same trade and not selected Savage, but Parris Hilton Campbell, I would expect to have seen this from you?

LOL....I actually did type "Hilton".....but HAD to leave it, because I was laughing so hard thinking about the irony.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb that if Hakeem Butler and Parris Hil.. Campbell are both there at #44 we go with Butler... He has the same RAS score of 9.92 as Rashan Gary....Parris is only a paltry 9.77

 

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Of all clips you provided, this is the one that best defines his primary role in this defense.

 

[GleefulGary]

It is easy to draw a comparison between Alexander and Savage. Small frame guys not afraid to stick their nose in it, quick, fast, ball skills, competitive at the ball, instinctual. It's no coincidence that in both cases some analysts projected both these guys to the slot to go against the protypical small, quick receivers.

Make no mistake. These guys are a perimeter corner and a free safety, respecitively. There isn't much doubt about Alexander's spot now, where more upside can be projected, and there shouldn't be with respect to Savage.

Now, situationally, might Savage take on a slot in some man coverages? Sure. Week 3 against KC and Hill might be an example. But make no mistake. Everything about him says his primary role is prowling the back end.

Thankfully Hill won't be playing in that game.