Official GB vs Rams studs n duds

[Deleted member 6794]

I think it's hilarious that a lot of posters, most of them definitely predicting the Packers would get blown out by the Rams, argue that the game plan as well as McCarthy's adjustments were terrible after the team went toe to toe with the best team in the league on their turf, losing the game on a brain fart by a kick returner.

It's true they made some mistakes but overall their performance was pretty impressive and something to build on moving forward.

Trade deadline is in two days, and if I was Gute I'd stick him on the trade block pronto.

There's absolutely no reason to believe another team would be interested in trading for Montgomery.

You can basically call out the play being run before the snap even happens for the Pack right now.

I guarantee you wouldn't even be able to guess correctly if the Packers throw or run the ball on half of the plays.

 

[Mondio]

I think it's hilarious that a lot of posters, most of them definitely predicting the Packers would get blown out by the Rams, argue that the game plan as well as McCarthy's adjustments were terrible after the team went toe to toe with the best team in the league on their turf, losing the game on a brain fart by a kick returner.

It's true they made some mistakes but overall their performance was pretty impressive and something to build on moving forward.



There's absolutely no reason to believe another team would be interested in trading for Montgomery.



I guarantee you wouldn't even be able to guess correctly if the Packers throw or run the ball on haöf of the plays.

All true statements

 

[PackerDNA]

Heck of an effort, heck of a game. It's a shame they lost, they deserved better.

 

[Mondio]

There were like 2 -3 drives by the high powered Rams defense that were anything. A couple of very fortunate plays, for them and the rest GB playing really pretty good football. They were prepared and focused and played well out of the gate and still people see what they want to see.

I should give the Rams credit on D, their Dline made some pretty big plays. Our Oline had it's share of not getting it done. And they have a pretty fast Linebacker that kept some big potential plays, small ones.

 

[AmishMafia]

Studs
Alexander. Shut down for the most part a very good WR in only his 5th game.
Brice - his best game as a Packer
Pettine - first time in a while we had a great defensive game plan
Aaron Jones - nice runs
Clark, Adams, and Fackrell (for 1 play)

Duds
McCarthy - please factor in the pass rush when calling plays. When we need 3 yds dont call a play that takes 5 secs to develop. Rodgers will be on his back in 3 secs.
Went away from Jones running too soon.

 

[Ken smith]

I think it's hilarious that a lot of posters, most of them definitely predicting the Packers would get blown out by the Rams, argue that the game plan as well as McCarthy's adjustments were terrible after the team went toe to toe with the best team in the league on their turf, losing the game on a brain fart by a kick returner.

It's true they made some mistakes but overall their performance was pretty impressive and something to build on moving forward.



There's absolutely no reason to believe another team would be interested in trading for Montgomery.



I guarantee you wouldn't even be able to guess correctly if the Packers throw or run the ball on half of the plays.

Usually I agree with the captain, or get my eyes looking in another direction for thought. Have to disagree this time. If you look at AR’s stats, not very impressive at all. Regardless of the score the game was a defensive affair. The defense played well, but they could not make stops on a 7-0 team with a winning attitude when needed. That young defensive back made three over the top “whew” breakups single handed that prevented at least 14 rams points. The defense did buckle and fold when they needed to do the opposite, or, the Rams rose to its objective, the packers D did not. And that odd call that led to the safety I believe was the actual turning point of the game even if it didn’t seem a big deal at the time. Pull up the packers play percentage chart and you’ll see that other than jones running, most packer offense success was from inconsistent hit and miss busted plays where once again AR ‘found’ someone. The man never had more than a second before he had the rams D on top of him. MM had an early career here of a bunch of super talented young players playing over their heads making things happen to win. He doesn’t have that anymore except on rare occasion. He’s either not kept pace with the league, or he’s got to a point where he’s simply going through the motions. I think.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Usually I agree with the captain, or get my eyes looking in another direction for thought. Have to disagree this time. If you look at AR’s stats, not very impressive at all. Regardless of the score the game was a defensive affair. The defense played well, but they could not make stops on a 7-0 team with a winning attitude when needed. That young defensive back made three over the top “whew” breakups single handed that prevented at least 14 rams points. The defense did buckle and fold when they needed to do the opposite, or, the Rams rose to its objective, the packers D did not. And that odd call that led to the safety I believe was the actual turning point of the game even if it didn’t seem a big deal at the time. Pull up the packers play percentage chart and you’ll see that other than jones running, most packer offense success was from inconsistent hit and miss busted plays where once again AR ‘found’ someone. The man never had more than a second before he had the rams D on top of him. MM had an early career here of a bunch of super talented young players playing over their heads making things happen to win. He doesn’t have that anymore except on rare occasion. He’s either not kept pace with the league, or he’s got to a point where he’s simply going through the motions. I think.

I'm not arguing the Packers played a perfect game by any means but in my opinion they performed at a pretty high level against one of the best teams in the league. Unfortunately they came up short because of some bounces going the other way but the team was definitely prepared to compete with a legit contender on their turf.

 

[Patriotplayer90]

Watching teams like LA and KC is frustrating, because it makes you really wonder what AR could do if he had that kind of talent and coaching around him. Goff didn't stand out as much more than a "good" QB, yet he had excellent numbers. Our defense was excellent, all things considered, but they have playmakers doing great things that you just can't account for. Adams can play, but we really need more than just those two. Other receivers, o line, and even Graham seem pretty run of the mill.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Watching teams like LA and KC is frustrating, because it makes you really wonder what AR could do if he had that kind of talent and coaching around him. Goff didn't stand out as much more than a "good" QB, yet he had excellent numbers. Our defense was excellent, all things considered, but they have playmakers doing great things that you just can't account for.

The Packers performance against the Rams although coming up short is promising that the team might be on the right path to getting back being a legit contender. It might take another season though.

 

[adambr2]

I'm kind of blown away by anyone who doesn't include Montgomery as a dud. Whether or not you like him.

He ignored coaching instructions that literally took away a chance to win the game. After whiffing on a block in pass protection on the prior drive and doing nothing positive all game.

If that isn't a dud there are never any duds.

 

[GBkrzygrl]

It's baffling to me why they go away from what is working. Believe me. No one was more surprised than me that the offense played so well in the 1st quarter and part of the 2nd. It seemed to me that they were utilizing the run game very well and then they got away from it. Why do they insist on changing what is working. I don't know if it's MM or Rodgers but they seemed to go more pass than run and it didn't work.


Thought the defense played lights out.


Montgomery - What is there to say? He doesn't run very well most of the time. And when he was waiting for that kick I kept saying, "Take a knee. Take a knee." Why try to run it out when you can get it on the the 25 yard line?

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I'm sure he wasn't planning on fumbling, but seriously?


This is definitely not going to be our year.

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Studs - Defense

Duds - Montgomery
Offensive play-calling.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm kind of blown away by anyone who doesn't include Montgomery as a dud. Whether or not you like him.

He ignored coaching instructions that literally took away a chance to win the game. After whiffing on a block in pass protection on the prior drive and doing nothing positive all game.

If that isn't a dud there are never any duds.

Agree. Not only did he make a huge gaffe by bringing that ball out (right up the middle as he always seems to), but he failed to protect it. If I watched the play without knowing the circumstances, I would have thought the Packers were up by 3 scores and Montgomery was just going through the motions of ending the game. Well I guess I got the last part right.

 

[easyk83]

Studs
Kenny Clarke
Blake Martinez
Clay Matthews
Davante Adams
David Bakhtiari
Aaron Jones

Duds
Ty Montgomery
Tramon Williams
Whoever is responsible for Aaron Jones only receiving 12 carries despite averaging 7+ ypc. The Rams fed Gurley 25 times, not saying we should have given it to AJ that many times but for a 2 point game getting him 15 to 20 carries might have been the difference.

 

[PackAttack12]

Agree. Not only did he make a huge gaffe by bringing that ball out (right up the middle as he always seems to), but he failed to protect it. If I watched the play without knowing the circumstances, I would have thought the Packers were up by 3 scores and Montgomery was just going through the motions of ending the game. Well I guess I got the last part right.

Handled the football as if he was carrying a loaf of bread.

 

[Mondio]

One thing with Jones, he’s not Gurley. and he’s a good runner and most of his runs yesterday were set up out of the pass. Shot gun, delays almost draw looks. His 35 yard TD run, set up by pass pass pass.

I like him on the field, he’s an explosive runner, but let’s not pretend he’s something He’s not.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

One thing with Jones, he’s not Gurley. and he’s a good runner and most of his runs yesterday were set up out of the pass. Shot gun, delays almost draw looks. His 35 yard TD run, set up by pass pass pass.

I like him on the field, he’s an explosive runner, but let’s not pretend he’s something He’s not.

I've been saying this for awhile, Green Bay running backs tend to pick up yards due to defenses being more worried about the damage #12 can do with his arm, than the actual talent of the RB's themselves. Look at Monty early on when he switched to RB. Nobody was paying any attention to him, but when he had a game or 2 of success, it was quickly shut down by defenses. While Jones is a better RB than Monty, giving him the ball 20+ times per game isn't going to instantly make the offense better.

Now a guy like Gurley, you know he is going to get the ball and its still hard to stop him running or receiving. His daggers yesterday came in the form of what he can do catching the ball (6 catches on 7 targets for 81 yards and 1 TD), Green Bay had no answers.

All that said, I would be fine with not seeing Monty run the ball out of the backfield and I still prefer seeing Williams back there in passing situations.

 

[easyk83]

One thing with Jones, he’s not Gurley. and he’s a good runner and most of his runs yesterday were set up out of the pass. Shot gun, delays almost draw looks. His 35 yard TD run, set up by pass pass pass.

I like him on the field, he’s an explosive runner, but let’s not pretend he’s something He’s not.

He doesnt have to be Gurley, but a good runner getting 15+ rushes in this offense would help significantly. We need to take more pressure off the passing game atleast until we can season St. Brown and Scantling.

 

[Jerellh528]

I guarantee you wouldn't even be able to guess correctly if the Packers throw or run the ball on half of the plays.

If he just guessed pass on all of them, he would be right like 70% of the time

 

[easyk83]

According to my keen eye Aaron Jones is a damned good running back. BTW the delay got Jones a good 8-10 yards given that the Rams werent respecting the run at all. But it was all Jones who froze the safety and left him tackling air on his way to the end zone. If the Rams are lining up like that run it every damn time until they respect the run a little bit. Do that and the throw game will look a lot better.

 

[easyk83]

If he just guessed pass on all of them, he would be right like 70% of the time

Which is basically what defenses are doing.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Nice to at least be talking less about the defense and its woes, that is a good sign right?

The Packers and Pettine still need to find an answer to covering RB's and TE's, but otherwise I think they did a pretty good job yesterday.

 

[easyk83]

I kind of wonder if we dont need a stud pass rusher and really just need a proper free safety who can play CF and let us play an SS in the box more often against those TE and RB routes

 

[easyk83]

As for Jones go back and watch his highlights against the Cowboys last year. Hes running behind a fullback quite a bit and he's making much of his own hay. Hes a runner with great vision and instinct who does all of the little things to create separation complete with head fakes step fakes leans and does it without sacrificing speed or forward progress. He
s great at leaving defenders guessing right up until he leaves them tackling air.

 

[AmishMafia]

Studs
Alexander. Shut down for the most part a very good WR in only his 5th game.
Brice - his best game as a Packer
Pettine - first time in a while we had a great defensive game plan
Aaron Jones - nice runs
Clark, Adams, and Fackrell (for 1 play)

Duds
McCarthy - please factor in the pass rush when calling plays. When we need 3 yds dont call a play that takes 5 secs to develop. Rodgers will be on his back in 3 secs.
Went away from Jones running too soon.

Forgot Martinez as a stud. He is still improving and appeared to take another step. Seemed to be playing faster and even more aggressive.

 

[mongoosev]

the only dud was was mont....everyone played a good game against a good team. wtf was mont thinking when we are down by 2 or something and this guy carries the ball in one hand? ok ok it looked like he was trying to get his balance and had to adjust while the ball was in one hand but wtf were you thinking when we are down and have one of the best qb to get you at least a fg to win the game? we had enough time too! this is all a setup by the nfl and you guys are all in on it! seriously wtf was mont thinking!