Perhaps I didn't word it clearly but that's why I said "even if he [Rodgers] had the same supporting cast [as Mahomes]"
Good point, if we had to play an ascending Bengals team, I don't see this years GBP team getting past them. Which is disappointing, but probably realistic. Any given Sunday, they could win, but sustaining wins? IDK, I didn't see them winning against any of the teams (in the playoffs) that made it to their respective conference championships.
That’s absolutely and positively true. However conversely, that statement is more an argument why NOT to pay your QB $50m+ plus or league high money.
Do you mean..
Just ask Trent Dilfer
Dang, and all those were home games, 10-23 for 83 yards, 1 pick and Zero TD's is quite d@mning, the 20% win rate when down by 10 for $58+ million (next season) is the real stunner. Close enough only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. IDK, he gave us some great, unbelievable wins, but not last season. Last season was a build up to a letdown. Defense, smefence, this thread is about the QB, JB needs to be fired, but AR was disappointing, and is 39, so I'll say it again, I think it is time.
I don't think we would have put them in the no QB situation. The QB injuries were flukish, but in SF even with no QBs, we probably would have struggled (JB's defense is just that bad), they had the #1 overall defense in the NFL, and he struggled against the Lions' bad defense (which he should have lit up IMO) at home.
How many times did AR tie or take the lead in those situations only to have his defense give up the winning score in either regulation or O.T. Until you can give me those numbers for the 3 guys mentioned your stat means absolutely nothing to me.
Brady wins 40% of the time, Rodgers 20% of the time - OVER THEIR CAREERS — those are facts. If you want to somehow justify that those facts dont really matter go reasearch the 150+ games involved but I believe a sample size that large gives a pretty clear picture.
Yet individuals are in the HOF. Great quarterbacks lead their teams to great victories in adverse conditions. A game here a game there you can quibble about. 20% vs 40% career? Thats a pattern. 10 of 23 for 83 one pick ZERO touchdowns in 3 fourth quarters COMBINED? To be honest that level of sustained underperformance suprised even me.
The 20% win rate is astonishing, add the bad stats on top of that, and it's sickening. Some want to talk about him tying games, I have to question the logic. With no TDs, less than 50% completion rate, and only 83 yards (in 3 games a less than 28 yard per game average) how's he trying the score? Lately, this is a pattern. I might be willing to look past this year, but this is ongoing. In the big moments, he's supposed to shine, but based on the stats listed above, where's he shinning? I thought this thread was about QB play? I already stated in the fire JB thread multiple times he needs to be fired. To me, the QB play has not been good enough, not below average, but definitely not great. His contract (3 years for $150 mil) says he should be good to great, I never saw very much great play.
Just to comment. The Chiefs' front four can take over a game at any time against any body.
That and possibly more. Let’s just say a hypothetical Love starts and he’s good but not top 10.
That's concerning, 3 years is too small a sample size? By that measure JB has not shown us what he has (I say fire his *** now) and honestly, I've seen enough. Also, he's not making "most QB" money, he's making "elite QB" money.
Yes, and we can show examples of NBA players who only one 1 title, or none, but that's another sport. Or we can talk about great NFL players that didn't win it all or only have one title, but this is about one man. He gave some me some great memories, but he's now 39. I remember when he got drafted, and ppl were angry, or how about when he was first starting and ppl were booing. He already said that he's not playing at the age of TB. I'm not convinced Love is the answer, but if this goes on much further, then we wasted everything the team gave up to draft him. We can argue about everything else, but our QB is not getting younger, and I think the future is bleak if we only look at the past.Robert Horry > Lebron / MJ / Kareem / Magic / Kobe / Duncan/ Shaq
Just wanted to give an NBA example
