I do understand that. The cap hit for the season is the important factor. That's why people in the front office continually kick the can down the road to create space for a year. Yes, ultimately you have to pay the price at some point and that is why the Packers have $16m in voided contracts on their books.
Right, I have said this exact thing multiple times.
I'm in total agreement with you and Jones. No way is he better than Rodgers.
I didn't say he was, but a team that really wanted a 1 or 2 years for a real shot and felt that way could easily add another 10-40M on top if they wanted to. Teams do crazy stuff all the time.
Of course surely we all understand that "The Jets have stated they would give up two firsts" is a very different thing from "Peter King suggests the Jets would be willing to give up two firsts". Maybe King has his sources (maybe not) but there's definitely been no statements or anything like that on the Jets' end regarding what they'd be willing to give up one way or another, just speculation.
I'd be happy with that as well but I don't think the Jets would remotely consider that deal. In fact I don't think they would even consider trading Gardner for Rodgers straight up. He is the heavy, heavy favorite for DROY and they think very highly of him - Sauce Gardner is about as close to "untouchable" as any player they have at the moment IMO.
Yeah I agree in that interview Rodgers didn’t commit to answering that question directly. I wouldn’t have either because it gives off some idea that you want the Jets (or any team that has a Coach you like) to pursue you, which he might not altogether. So he rattled off every QB coach he’s had since childhood. Lol
I totally agree with the hiring part. They chose Hackett for Hackett and anything past that would be a small plus. I also agree that while some things sound unlikely as far as $$, Teams will do unconventional things with unconventional players. An extra $10m to be a front runner isn’t out of the picture.
No he doesn't. But, I truly believe if Packers' management is ready to move on with Love they will try to accommodate Rodgers and send him to a team of his liking. All of this conjecture revolves around if they feel Love is ready to take the reins. If so Rodgers will be traded - if he wants to continue playing and I suspect he does deep down. If Love needs more grooming and AR wants to keep playing he will be our starter this coming season.
Yes, Hackett is a great OC but not a great HC candidate at this point in his career.
I didn't watch the show, but saw this quote: “Love Hack. Hack is my guy. Love him and Megan and the kids,” Rodgers said. “They’re really special to me. We really bonded when he was in Green Bay. He made it fun. He made the room fun. He made the weeks fun.”
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It’s actually very likely that the Packers are fully prepared to move on either way. Even Rodgers retiring would alleviate some $$ concerns pretty quickly. Yes we owe him 40m or whatever but if he retires him and other players are pretty much off the books by 2024. Ok there are void contracts or misc. nearly every team has that stuff as far as rollover. Even those misc. monies will fade in impact year to year as that QB salary drops substantially. It will because no one is paying Love league high anytime soon. As an example, The league’s Cap increase alone washed our Void monies this season (one way to look at it) and it probably wasn’t a coincidence our voids were like 500K within the cap increase.
I didn't watch the show, but saw this quote: “Love Hack. Hack is my guy. Love him and Megan and the kids,” Rodgers said. “They’re really special to me. We really bonded when he was in Green Bay. He made it fun. He made the room fun. He made the weeks fun.”
Aaron Rodgers gushes about Nathaniel Hackett as Jets rumors swirl
Aaron Rodgers has addressed the rampant trade rumors surrounding him on his latest appearance on “The Pat McAfee Show” on Tuesday.
So he didn't exactly say he would love to work with him again, but definitely gave that vibe.
Just pointing out that Hackett's presence could factor in favorably for the Jets trade option.
??? I'm pretty sure yardage and TD's win games, but let's talk about championships, because unless unless it's division championships, he hasn't produced any since 2010. I'm 100% convinced that we won't win one next year. I'm sorry but I don't think it's all been the defense's fault for 13 years. Mahomes is going to his 3rd in the past 5 years, on a bum ankle, does everyone believe that he has a great team? Or is it great QB play with just good teammates this year? Many were stating that no Hill was going to take some time to re-adjust, but no, they persevered. Also, their QB had such better season than AR with new WRs (except TK). 3 in 5 years is better than 1 in 15. It's hard to argue for a QB when he can't even let you compete for a title, this isn't California little league, participation trophies are not "good enough".
Didn't KC win the afccg with most ( not all but most, mvs showed up) the starting wr hurt? And all pro TE on bad back, and qb with bad ankle?
Now to respond to your last point, is their defense average, or top 10? Also, where's your proof? There are many sources online, so I'm willing to concede the last point as long as you can provide proof from reputable sources.
Why yes, they were able to pull it off and my hats off to them. Makes this season more disappointing, but maybe this a blessing in disguise, and the GBP can fix some holes.
I wasn't trying to be rude, (I apologize if it came off that way) but I was looking for proof (reputable sources) and not examples of them being top 10 (that would only be the average if there were only 20 NFL teams) in certain categories, but overall all. I just was looking for proof as there are 32 NFL teams and 10 not being the average.
That is a great point about the offense, but my question was about the defense (again probably my fault from the way I posted it), I was only looking at them from a defense standpoint. But the topic of this thread is about AR, based on what we have seen out of him (at home) over the past 3 years in the playoffs or win and your in (this year) has been underwhelming. At 39, AR doesn't seem to have that, "get you over the hump" in him anymore, so maybe it's time to move on as he's due about $60 million in cap space this year. As I stated before, I'm a GBP fan, not just a AR fan.
I don't think anyone knows the degree to which the possibility of luring Rodgers played into Hackett landing the HC job in Denver. I find it hard to believe that any NFL organization would hire a first-time HC on the hope that they could lure a single player. That possibility could have been a small factor in the hiring decision, but not a significant one. Denver thought it was time for Hackett to get the big job. That obviously didn't work out. Contrast that with Hackett accepting the step backward to OC. The Jets know Hackett is a proven commodity at OC, so even if he doesn't lure Rodgers, it's a solid hire. I do not think Hackett got the Jets job with the expectation of luring Rodgers. Rather, he maintains a very good relationship with Rodgers and, if all the other aspects of a possible deal come into alignment, that relationship good prove important, perhaps even pivotal, in a scenario where Rodgers is weighing competing offers. Rodgers did not go to Denver, but that correlation with Hackett hires, does not cause the Jets dynamic to be impossible or implausible. The Jets are one of a few possible trading partners for Rodgers and the presence of Hackett only improves their odds against the competition. That's my only point.
I don't think the hiring of Hackett by Denver was used as a lure for them to get Rodgers. I seriously doubt any GM called Gute after the 2021 season inquiring about #12. They knew that would have been a waste of time. Gute - or any other NFL GM - isn't going to trade away their reigning league MVP.
I love Rodgers but… more and more I’m starting to feel this way.
