Gute looking for 'bigger guys' to play a prominent role at slot WR

[Deleted member 6794]

For me, the best argument for a smaller, shiftier and quicker slot receiver is that he open up more space for other receivers/tight ends and for himself.

A bigger slot receiver could achieve that as well.

I've never understood the handling of Ty Montgomery....someone mentioned him above. He was developing into a good WR when we pressed him into RB. When that need was obsolete, McCarthy stubbornly stuck with him there until things blew apart. It's not like the guy put on 30 pounds to play RB. We should have put him back at WR to see what he could do, potentially in the slot. It seems like we gave away a good option for peanuts, and are now looking to pick through the haystack for another needle.

Montgomery wasn't that talented as a receiver to begin with. It was the right decision to move on from him after he ignored instructions by the coaching staff.

 

[Dantés]

He isn't a "big slot" but if they wait until the 3rd/4th round to address the position, I would like to see Mecole Hardman in green and gold. He brings some YAC ability that currently isn't in the offense, and he has dangerous punt return ability. Between some gadget plays and special teams, I think he could make a pretty good impact for a mid round rookie.

 

[scotscheese]

No one cares, Brandon.

now thats not true sir, we need GAME CHANGERS at every position of the team

 

[sschind]

I had a girlfriend that eventually carried that nickname. Anyway.
Forget BIG SLOT. Maybe another true #1 would solve the whole problem.
Carry on.

sorry she cheated on you man...That's tough.

 

[InGuteWeTrust]

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I think we already kind of forget that EQ was a 6th round pick. Future is now for St. Brown. I believe he could have a breakout season in the slot this year. We will see what happens. Stay tuned.

 

[felix145]

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I think we already kind of forget that EQ was a 6th round pick. Future is now for St. Brown. I believe he could have a breakout season in the slot this year. We will see what happens. Stay tuned.

But he was a projected 2nd/3rd round pick. The only reason he fell so far is his dad afaik. I also think that he could have a breakout season. He was very good at Notre Dame with Kizer as his QB.

 

[Dantés]

A.J. Brown put up a 6.89 3 cone drill at his pro day. Quality time!

I'm not sold that they need to spend a high pick on a big slot receiver, but if they want one, Brown is the dude at #30.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

A.J. Brown put up a 6.89 3 cone drill at his pro day. Quality time!

I'm not sold that they need to spend a high pick on a big slot receiver, but if they want one, Brown is the dude at #30.

That's a good number... although Kumerow ran a 6.9 and would definitely be a "big slot receiver" at 6'5" and wouldn't cost us a draft pick.

I think the training camp battle to note (assuming no early WR) will be Kumerow vs. St. Brown to occupy the slot position.

 

[Dantés]

That's a good number... although Kumerow ran a 6.9 and would definitely be a "big slot receiver" at 6'5" and wouldn't cost us a draft pick.

I think the training camp battle to note (assuming no early WR) will be Kumerow vs. St. Brown to occupy the slot position.

It could be that they see some value there in Kumerow, but I don't really buy it. I don't think he has the YAC skills you'd want to see in the position.

 

[GleefulGary]

That's a good number... although Kumerow ran a 6.9 and would definitely be a "big slot receiver" at 6'5" and wouldn't cost us a draft pick.

I think the training camp battle to note (assuming no early WR) will be Kumerow vs. St. Brown to occupy the slot position.

AJ Brown is a lot better than Kumerow.

I'd be surprised if Kumerow makes the roster. He's a nice story, but he's also 27 and not that good.

 

[GleefulGary]

If you look at what Gute and LaFleur have said regarding the slot position, AJ Brown is literally perfect.

I like Deebo Samuel a lot too, but he hasn't exactly been healthy/durable a lot.

 

[InGuteWeTrust]

If you look at what Gute and LaFleur have said regarding the slot position, AJ Brown is literally perfect.

I like Deebo Samuel a lot too, but he hasn't exactly been healthy/durable a lot.

The Packers have scheduled A.J. Brown for a pre-draft visit. I don't read too much into those pre-draft visits though. More often than not the players the Packers draft were never brought in for visits. Gute also in the past has said TT would get mad at him when he would try and schedule players they were actually interested in for visits. You don't want to tip other teams off to your plans.

 

[OldSchool101]

The Packers have scheduled A.J. Brown for a pre-draft visit. I don't read too much into those pre-draft visits though. More often than not the players the Packers draft were never brought in for visits. Gute also in the past has said TT would get mad at him when he would try and schedule players they were actually interested in for visits. You don't want to tip other teams off to your plans.

Yeah. Likely it’s a smoke screen. I think they do both though to dilute the field of potential prospects. I certainly wouldn’t avoid a guy I’m going to hire just to confuse other potential employers. That goes for coaches also.

 

[InGuteWeTrust]

Yeah. Likely it’s a smoke screen. I think they do both though to dilute the field of potential prospects. I certainly wouldn’t avoid a guy I’m going to hire just to confuse other potential employers. That goes for coaches also.

Teams would interview at some point most prospects they are interested in. At the combine or their pro day etc. But to bring them to town for a official visit is another thing. So often when teams draft a player you will hear that there were no official visits with the player by that team.

Like you said there are a lot of smoke screens going on leading up to the draft. Big stakes going on here. A lot of peoples livelihoods are on the line.

 

[OldSchool101]

Teams would interview at some point most prospects they are interested in. At the combine or their pro day etc. But to bring them to town for a official visit is another thing. So often when teams draft a player you will hear that there were no official visits with the player by that team.

Like you said there are a lot of smoke screens going on leading up to the draft. Big stakes going on here. A lot of peoples livelihoods are on the line.

Yeah. And as you said. there is definitely some games being played. I noticed that happening again this year with several teams using those
“advertised visits” at positions where their own FA were being negotiated. Only to see those teams resign their own FA just hours later.
Nice pic of EQ using those long arms to his advantage.

 

[InGuteWeTrust]

Yeah. And as you said. there is definitely some games being played. I noticed that happening again this year with several teams using those
“advertised visits” at positions where their own FA were being negotiated. Only to see those teams resign their own FA just hours later.
Nice pic of EQ using those long arms to his advantage.

I also think sometimes a visit is reported as "scheduled" and it is never known if it actually took place. Leading to more speculation on the motives involved with "visits". I believe the NFL tries to police this by limiting the number of visits each team can have with players. I know they have those limits in place, I just don't know when a visit is counted though. If it's at the time of scheduling or at the time it actually takes place. Oh well, and again, I don't read much into these "visits."

Yes, EQ sure looks at home in the slot.

 

[brandon2348]

The Packers have scheduled A.J. Brown for a pre-draft visit. I don't read too much into those pre-draft visits though. More often than not the players the Packers draft were never brought in for visits. Gute also in the past has said TT would get mad at him when he would try and schedule players they were actually interested in for visits. You don't want to tip other teams off to your plans.

Translation = Were drafting Parris Campbell.

 

[rodell330]

If you need 2 or 3 guys to share time in the slot, then you DON’T have a slot. Simple as that. I don’t care how Gute spins it.

 

[InGuteWeTrust]

If you need 2 or 3 guys to share time in the slot, then you DON’T have a slot. Simple as that. I don’t care how Gute spins it.

I don't know that Gute said he needs "2 or 3 guys to share time in the slot." If you heard him say that I'd be surprised. If you are talking about a few players playing the slot last season? That was due to injuries.

I do think there will be a competition in camp between several WR's for all the WR spots except the #1 WR, which is obviously Davante.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Another strategic detail..... Fast RBs are one thing. Speed kills. But I have always been keen to those Barry Sanders type 5'8" 205ish body styles for RBs....
They have low center of gravity. Good power. Usually have to hit them solid to take them down, and that seems to be harder to do with their built in agility that comes with low center of gravity.... And burst. They always seem to have the right amount of burst to hit those small holes. The one downfall of those types is they are usually slower and don't break many 80 yarders...

Now couple a rb of this style with 6'3 220 pound WRs and a Jimmy Graham 6'7" running a 4.5. And the defenders have to play their bigger players to counter....

Those bigger defenders will always have more trouble with those shifty short RBs who can turn on a dime...

Jones is an absolute stud in terms of tallent. But been hurt too much. Williams is solid all around. But been hurt some too... Monty is gone now. So another rb is a must. There is a few good short rbs in this draft. I'd like to see a 3rd or 4th round pick spent on one of them......I got them in the 4th in the Amish draft contest....but trading our 3rd back to later in 3rd, picking up another later round pick.....I wouldn't be against that either.....

I think DuJuan Harris might be available.

 

[brandon2348]

Kansas City is another team reported showing interest in Parris Campbell with the potential loss of Tyreek Hill.

Seems they understand the VALUE of ELITE SPEED!

 

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[brandon2348]

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[sschind]

Yeah. Likely it’s a smoke screen. I think they do both though to dilute the field of potential prospects. I certainly wouldn’t avoid a guy I’m going to hire just to confuse other potential employers. That goes for coaches also.

Teams would interview at some point most prospects they are interested in. At the combine or their pro day etc. But to bring them to town for a official visit is another thing. So often when teams draft a player you will hear that there were no official visits with the player by that team.

Like you said there are a lot of smoke screens going on leading up to the draft. Big stakes going on here. A lot of peoples livelihoods are on the line.

We often hear players or their agents saying "we had no idea they were even interested" after a guy is drafted. In some cases I am sure that is partly because the team doesn't want to tip their hand but in some cases I'm sure it is partly because with some players there really isn't any question. If a GM is sold on a guy why waste time with an interview either at the combine or the pro day or through an invite.

IMO there are two reason to interview players. One is to throw others of the track by making them think you are interested in players you are not interested in and the other is to answer questions you have about that player. If you are interested in a player and you have no nagging questions there is no reason to waste time with an interview.