Free Agents you would like to see sign with Green Bay in 2019?

[Pokerbrat2000]

Well you will be able to provide for your wife and kids in the distant future, but if you want to provide for them along with your parents and siblings in the long term 500k a year for roughly 10 years wouldn't be enough right? I am not aware of any career opportunities retired NFL players have but I can imagine they will never earn close to those rookie deals. Those 2nd contracts insure stability for them and their families for decades.

Right, because after they get done playing in the NFL, at the age of 28-38, they can't get another job, like the rest of us.

LOL.....how many people do you know that put it on themselves to take care of their parents and siblings financially?

Sorry, but no matter how you want to the paint the picture, I'm not feeling any angst for NFL players and their ability to survive financially.

 

[brandon2348]

Ryan Grant, WR is still available. He is someone I could see coming in an adding insurance at the slot position and I had him targeted earlier. He can really flip his hips out of short breaks and someone we could get on a friendly deal.


This would be a great signing IMO if Gute get's him.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Ryan Grant, WR is still available. He is someone I could see coming in an adding insurance at the slot position and I had him targeted earlier. He can really flip his hips out of short breaks and someone we could get on a friendly deal.


This would be a great signing IMO if Gute get's him.

Grant isn't a slot receiver either as he only lined up there on 11.4% of his snaps last season.

 

[brandon2348]

Grant isn't a slot receiver either as he only lined up there on 11.4% of his snaps last season.

Well he played a lot of slot with the Redskins. It's not that he can't play there.

 

[elcid]

Right, because after they get done playing in the NFL, at the age of 28-38, they can't get another job, like the rest of us.

LOL.....how many people do you know that put it on themselves to take care of their parents and siblings financially?

Sorry, but no matter how you want to the paint the picture, I'm not feeling any angst for NFL players and their ability to survive financially.

I'm not an expert by any means, but I can imagine that a lot of these players grew up in poverty. My point is that that is what Amos probably means when he talks about the 'pursuit of the 2nd contract,' as it would allow him to not only provide comfortably for his own wife/kids but also raise his parents/siblings out of poverty.

Don't get me wrong, even at the bare minimum NFL players will earn 10x more than most people do in the USA on a yearly basis. But when growing up in poverty and when being presented with such a chance (a very lucrative second contract) I can definitely understand the motivation to work hard in order to provide financial stability for all of their family for decades to come.

 

[Mondio]

I imagine almost every person if given a real chance to set themselves up for a lifetime in a 5-10 year window, those with the drive to do it would want to maximize every dollar they could out of the situation.

That said, many Americans would not either. They’d want the money, but the certainly wouldn’t want to work for it even if 10 years meant never having to work again.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm not an expert by any means, but I can imagine that a lot of these players grew up in poverty. My point is that that is what Amos probably means when he talks about the 'pursuit of the 2nd contract,' as it would allow him to not only provide comfortably for his own wife/kids but also raise his parents/siblings out of poverty.

Don't get me wrong, even at the bare minimum NFL players will earn 10x more than most people do in the USA on a yearly basis. But when growing up in poverty and when being presented with such a chance (a very lucrative second contract) I can definitely understand the motivation to work hard in order to provide financial stability for all of their family for decades to come.

I get the point you are trying to make, but there are millions of people growing up in poverty around the world and will end their lives in that same poverty. Football players choose a path, whether it takes them out of poverty and into extreme riches or not, I won't shed a tear for the ones that make league minimum for several years and then are faced with working another job til they can retire. Nor will I feel bad that their siblings and parents had to do the same.

I feel the same way about people who complain about never winning the lottery.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Well he played a lot of slot with the Redskins. It's not that he can't play there.

Grant lined up in the slot on only 27.2% of his offensive snaps over four seasons in Washington as well.

 

[brandon2348]

Grant lined up in the slot on only 27.2% of his offensive snaps over four seasons in Washington as well.

That's almost 1 out of 3 snaps. His skill set and experience there would be an upgrade over anyone on our current roster. As I said I like him as an insurance policy type player while drafting a rookie there as well.

He has all the physical traits you look for to play in slot. He just lacks deep speed which Cobb did as well.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

That's almost 1 out of 3 snaps. His skill set and experience there would be an upgrade over anyone on our current roster. As I said I like him as an insurance policy type player while drafting a rookie there as well.

He has all the physical traits you look for to play in slot. He just lacks deep speed which Cobb did as well.

The Packers have to find a receiver capable of replacing Cobb, who lined up in the slot on 85.8% of his snaps, though.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I imagine almost every person if given a real chance to set themselves up for a lifetime in a 5-10 year window, those with the drive to do it would want to maximize every dollar they could out of the situation.

That said, many Americans would not either. They’d want the money, but the certainly wouldn’t want to work for it even if 10 years meant never having to work again.

Agreed, but realistically, what % of jobs exist out there that a person can set themselves and their families up for life in a 5-10 year window?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Side note of Free Agency thus far:

Appears the Packers won't be receiving any compensatory picks in the 2020 Draft, for the second straight year.

 

[sschind]

...I meant Jared Cook!

This is a little embarrassing that I mixed up the voice actor and the football player. Sorry you guys!

I'd be laughing at your embarrassment if I had any clue who Justin Cook was. Even googled him and I still have no idea.

 

[Do7]

I'd be laughing at your embarrassment if I had any clue who Justin Cook was. Even googled him and I still have no idea.

Basically he's a voice actor, and a ADR director that works at Funimation, (Basically a well renown voice acting company that does English dubs for anime and whatnot). He's well known for voicing Raditz in DBZ, and Yusuke Urameshi in YuYu Hakusho back in the day.

I'm an animator, video editor, director, audio mixer, and a voice actor so this stuff goes hand in hand with what I do for a living. Aside from being a die hard Packers fan, that is my other true passion.

 

[sschind]

See, I have no idea what Raditz in DBZ, and Yusuke Urameshi in YuYu Hakusho are either

By chance do you have any clue what a Theraphosa blondi or a Chelydra serpentina are?

I gotta try something to get back in the game.

 

[Do7]

See, I have no idea what Raditz in DBZ, and Yusuke Urameshi in YuYu Hakusho are either

By chance do you have any clue what a Theraphosa blondi or a Chelydra serpentina are?

I gotta try something to get back in the game.

I admit I had to google them so upon hearing them I was not aware of what they were. One looked like a tarantula and the other a turtle. I like turtles though. Always wanted one as a pet.

 

[sschind]

I admit I had to google them so upon hearing them I was not aware of what they were. One looked like a tarantula and the other a turtle. I like turtles though. Always wanted one as a pet.

Those are my other passions. We all like weird stuff and as long as it isn't illegal I'll just think you are weird and leave it at that. Nothing wrong with being weird. We are all weird to someone.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Nothing wrong with being weird. We are all weird to someone.

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[Mondio]

I've had a turtle head, and what felt like an entire turtle, but when I looked there was no turtle there?

anyway, my wife called me weird already at 545 this morning and she still lives with me.

 

[SD Cheesehead]

I’d love to see Clay, Breeland, and Mo back on short term deals with lots of incentives. Clay would give lots of flexibility as starting MLB and OLB depth. Need some depth at CB and I thought Breeland was great last year. Mo should be cheap and has some upside and familiarity with the system. Also saw Danny Shelton is out there. I hoped the pack would draft him a couple of years ago. Would be great depth behind Clark or him and Clark together to be two huge athletic dudes to plug the middle and let our new athletes fly around and make plays.

 

[PackerDNA]

I've had a turtle head, and what felt like an entire turtle, but when I looked there was no turtle there?

anyway, my wife called me weird already at 545 this morning and she still lives with me.

I've put the woman in for sainthood.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I've had a turtle head, and what felt like an entire turtle, but when I looked there was no turtle there?

anyway, my wife called me weird already at 545 this morning and she still lives with me.

Don't they make Blue Pills that can help with that?

 

[Mondio]

Don't they make Blue Pills that can help with that?

I don’t know what kinds of parties you attend, but not in this house

 

[sschind]

I’d love to see Clay, Breeland, and Mo back on short term deals with lots of incentives. Clay would give lots of flexibility as starting MLB and OLB depth. Need some depth at CB and I thought Breeland was great last year. Mo should be cheap and has some upside and familiarity with the system. Also saw Danny Shelton is out there. I hoped the pack would draft him a couple of years ago. Would be great depth behind Clark or him and Clark together to be two huge athletic dudes to plug the middle and let our new athletes fly around and make plays.

There are a few problems with incentives or at least too many incentives. First they have to be reasonable. You can offer a guy an addition 100 million dollars in incentives and he isn't going to take the deal if it requires him to have 30 sacks or 175 receptions or something equally ridiculous. Second you have to consider next years salary cap when offering incentives that may be reached. Lets say you offer Clay 2 million if he has 12 sacks. You offer Breeland 2 million if he has 10 interceptions and you offer Williams 2 million if he plays 90% of the snaps. If all three hitythose incentives all of a sudden you have 6 million in additional cap space to account for next year when we are already looking pretty tight.

Granted if they earn those incentives it most likely would have been worth the money but it could still cause problems. You may also say there is no way any of those guys will reach those incentives but that brings us back to the first point. If there is no way they will reach them why would they even consider them when deciding to sign or not. I mean if your offer is league minimum with another 5 million possible but on ridiculous incentives they are going to look at it as a league minimum contract.

I may be wrong but I don't think many players look at incentives as much of a factor when deciding if the contract is good enough for them. The guarantee or at least the salary has to be pretty close before and extra million or two that may be too hard to reach will tip the scales. I think probably the most used incentives involve playing time. If you have a guy who has missed 8 games in each of the last 2 years you might have an incentive for playing in say 14 games and he may go for that because I don't think anyone plans for injury. Or you may have a backup who you offer an incentive for playing a certain number or percentage of snaps and he may take it because the guy in front of him has proven to be less than durable. Nick Foles missed a 1 million dollar incentive last year by 4 snaps but the Eagles paid it to him anyway. They wouldn't have had to but it was the right thing to do given what he had done for them. When he signed that deal I doubt he was really expecting to see that money but Wentz had gotten hurt the year before so it was icing on the cake.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Also saw Danny Shelton is out there. I hoped the pack would draft him a couple of years ago. Would be great depth behind Clark or him and Clark together to be two huge athletic dudes to plug the middle and let our new athletes fly around and make plays.

Shelton is excellent defending the run but doesn't add a whole lot rushing the passer. He moght add solid depth if Wilkerson can't be retained though.

There are a few problems with incentives or at least too many incentives. First they have to be reasonable. You can offer a guy an addition 100 million dollars in incentives and he isn't going to take the deal if it requires him to have 30 sacks or 175 receptions or something equally ridiculous. Second you have to consider next years salary cap when offering incentives that may be reached. Lets say you offer Clay 2 million if he has 12 sacks. You offer Breeland 2 million if he has 10 interceptions and you offer Williams 2 million if he plays 90% of the snaps. If all three hitythose incentives all of a sudden you have 6 million in additional cap space to account for next year when we are already looking pretty tight.

Incentives that are deemed unlikely to be earned (based on a player's performance during the previous season) don't count against the cap initially.

Of course as HRE taught me in the past they would result in an additional cap hit if a player earns them.