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Another guy who I think would fit like a glove, albeit differently, is Juju Smith-Schuster. He's a powerful guy who seems to relish the dirty work of run blocking and punishing defenders. He plays in the slot for the most part. For those reasons, I think he could fit nicely into Lazard's role. He's not great at getting himself open, but neither is Lazard-- Petals did most of that for him. But he would just dominate after the catch in this offense.

You know I gotta admit, I didn't think we'd agree on this. But I too think Juju is the best value on the market for the Packers, and since he's got a little diva in him, he might come at a cheaper price than say T.Y. Hilton who other teams might pay a premium for his body of work, while Juju hasn't necessarily morphed into a #1 WR.

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Sullivan tendered as well.

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Totally agree, I think this is more about the Packers guaranteeing they have SOMEBODY behind Jaire that can play at least half decent. Right now it's Jaire on one side and Sullivan/Hollman battling for #2.

I know you guys may not like this but if the Packers can't get who they want in the Draft(I'd personally put my name in the hat for the Fire Gute Club Presidential Election), don't be surprised if King gets a vet minimum offer.

The Titans cut Adoree' Jackson... that's a head scratcher.

He would check the CB box AND the ST box for a returner....curious as to his value given his poor play recently.
 

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Hilton has missed a fair amount of games in last few years with calf, quad & hammy issues. According to www.sportsinjurypredictor.com (this is a real site!) there's a 91% chance of injury in '21, with prediction of missing 3.7 games, for what it's worth.

I like him, just need to realize he may not be available every week which is pretty important to GB.
Actually if he missed 4 games but was there for the playoffs; I'm good with that.
 

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This kinda makes him a free agent:

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I have always thought TY Hilton runs great routes, has very good hands and can get deep. If he is still good; he might be a good signing.

He was top 15 on intermediate routes even in 2020 in what was a down year for deep balls on the colts because of rivers arm
 

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I can see the Bears or Vikings going after Tonyan and raising the stakes for Gute. If Gute doesn't match, the Bears or Vikes take huge bite out of the Packers offense. Even with a second round pick as compensation, TE's take time to develop so losing Tonyan would be huge. Tonyan is worth a second round pick. He's in jeopardy of being the second major loss to the offense.
 

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I can see the Bears or Vikings going after Tonyan and raising the stakes for Gute. If Gute doesn't match, the Bears or Vikes take huge bite out of the Packers offense. Even with a second round pick as compensation, TE's take time to develop so losing Tonyan would be huge. Tonyan is worth a second round pick. He's in jeopardy of being the second major loss to the offense.

Is it a pick in this draft? Vikings don't have one if that is the case. Also the vikings have much more pressing needs than te. Bears have kmet who they really like so I would be really surprised if they went after tonyan
 

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There reports the Packers have looked into Patrick Peterson. Does he have much left in the tank? He is coming off a rough year

Also maybe I missed it here but Packers are not tendering Tyler Lancaster
 

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Patrick Peterson would still be better than anyone not named Jaire Alexander on the roster, and it wouldn't be even close. If it's a reasonable deal I'm all for it.

Nobody but Clark, Keke, and to a much lesser degree Lowry should be in the DL Position Group heading into the Draft. I know guys like Rush and Previlon on there but they're just PS guys honestly. That group needs a full rebuild. If Gute can't get it done in the Draft, then I can see Lancaster getting a call.
 

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Gute can plan on a 3rd rounder for that.

Quick question, Jones technically never hit the true FA market correct? So his contract offsets nothing??? Only one cup of coffee and this question seems stupid as I type it even LOL

Linsley will be a 4th.
 
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These options were all guys who got released, and thus would not count against the Packers in allotting compensatory picks:
  • Jurrell Casey, DL
  • Shamar Stephen, DL
  • Quinton Jefferson, DL
  • Adoree' Jackson, CB
  • Malcolm Butler, CB
  • Janoris Jenkins, CB
  • Casey Hayward, CB
  • Riley Reiff, OT
  • Nick Martin, C
  • John Brown, WR
  • Kyle Rudolph, TE
  • Jesse James, TE
  • Kyle Van Noy, ED
  • Kwon Alexander, LB
  • Duke Johnson, RB
 

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Rudolph would be a nice luxury....but I gotta let "my guys develop" since I told Gute(mocked) to Draft Jace all those years ago.:cool:
 

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Good year to have cap space. The Jaguars have had the most salary-cap space available ($74.4 million.)
Not listing their own players that re-upped they have added
Shaqill Griffin comes to Jacksonville for three years, $44.5 million ($29 million guaranteed), according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.
Marvin Jones joins the Jaguars on a two-year, $14.5 million contract ($9.2 million guaranteed), according to Schefter.
Rayshawn Jenkins agreed to a four-year deal, per ESPN's Jeremy Fowler.
Phillip Dorsett agreed on a deal, terms unknown, per Fowler.
Carlos Hyde reached agreement with the Jaguars on a two-year, $6 million deal, per Schefter.
Roy Robertson-Harris joins the Jaguars on a four-year deal worth $24.4 million ($14 million guaranteed).
Jihad Ward joins the Jaguars, but terms were not disclosed.
Chris Manhertz signs a two-year, $7.25 million deal to join the Jaguars, with $4.25 million guaranteed, according to Schefter.
Rudy Ford joins the Jaguars on a two-year deal.
Jamal Agnew and the Jaguars agreed on a three-year deal for him to be their kick returner.
 
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Tonyan....This will be interesting to see what happens.

If he is as good as some think, I can see a team giving up a 2nd rounder for him. The question for the Packers, how much are they willing to pay him? This could turn into a game of "chicken".

I really don't know just how valuable Tonyan is to the Packers, obviously at least $3,384,000 of value. I think a first round tag would have shut the door on anyone trying to sign him, the 2nd round tender....might just bring some tire kickers.

I highly doubt another team is interested in giving up a second round pick on top of signing Tonyan to a lucrative deal.

Totally agree, I think this is more about the Packers guaranteeing they have SOMEBODY behind Jaire that can play at least half decent. Right now it's Jaire on one side and Sullivan/Hollman battling for #2.

I know you guys may not like this but if the Packers can't get who they want in the Draft(I'd personally put my name in the hat for the Fire Gute Club Presidential Election), don't be surprised if King gets a vet minimum offer.

Sullivan is best suited to line up in the slot and Hollman is an unknown.

I fully expect King to be under contract with a team at the time of the draft.

This kinda makes him a free agent:

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No, a team trading for Ertz would have to give up some compensation for him and pay his base salary of $8.5 million in 2021.

Is it a pick in this draft? Vikings don't have one if that is the case.

Yes, a team signing a restricted free agent that has been tendered needs to give up the pick in the same league year. The only exception would be if the offer sheet is signed two days or later prior to the draft.
 

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Sullivan is best suited to line up in the slot and Hollman is an unknown.

I fully expect King to be under contract with a team at the time of the draft.

That Sullivan is, but based on who we have RIGHT NOW, he looks to be the #2 CB on the team, unless Savage comes down and God forbid we have Redmond back there at FS.

Nothing in this offseason is a guarantee, and I've seen zero interest in King elsewhere, I'm sure he doesn't end up on the street but he's a known value. For vet min I'd bring him back if the CB room still looks shaky.

Hollman is going into his 3rd year and he's still an unknown, despite King's play. And we saw very little of Jackson either, granted he's definitely taken his lumps. Not sure if it was more Pettine's call or Gray's but I'd say it's an indictment on both at this point given the state of the depth chart behind Jaire.

We didn't blow everyone out last year but we definitely had some moments to where both Hollman and Jackson could have gotten limited snaps to show either progression or regression.

No, a team trading for Ertz would have to give up some compensation for him and pay his base salary of $8.5 million in 2021.

What I'm saying is for all intents and purposes, he's a Free Agent. As a reference, look at the trade between Tampa and New England for Gronk....a 7th Round Pick. The Patriots knew he was never going to play for them again and I suspect the Eagles know the same thing with Ertz. I'd say his value is somewhere between a 5th and 6th because he actually played last year vs Gronk was retired. Had he gotten out on the open market, it wouldn't have surprised me for him to get $9-11M per season, so in essence, I think the Packers have to thimk that's good value given how weak this TE Class is and Jace underperforming. The only thing is what if another team is willing to "overpay" and maybe offer a 4th Rounder.
 

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Wow, the Lions get DT Michael Brockers from the Rams for a 7th round draft pick.....in 2023!
 

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Wow, the Lions get DT Michael Brockers from the Rams for a 7th round draft pick.....in 2023!

See this is the kind of deals I'd want to make, find a guy a team was/is planning on cutting anyways and offer them something, literally any 7th is worth a guy like that. Smart move.
 
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See this is the kind of deals I'd want to make, find a guy a team was/is planning on cutting anyways and offer them something, literally any 7th is worth a guy like that. Smart move.

Good player, dumb move.

The Lions are burning their comp picks and turning a top 5 pick into a top 12 pick.

But I don’t think the Packers could afford Brockers’ 6.5M base.
 
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Buzz that the Bears could cut Kyle Fuller.

If they do, he’s my guy. He’s not what he once was, but at 29 he can be a great #2.

Hopefully not incredibly expensive at this stage of career.

As a cut, he would not impact the comp formula.
 

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Good player, dumb move.

The Lions are burning their comp picks and turning a top 5 pick into a top 12 pick.

But I don’t think the Packers could afford Brockers’ 6.5M base.

Salary aside I was stating...but wait, not sure I follow the "burning of their comp picks statement?" Can you elaborate, either not enough coffee or just having a slow moment.
 

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Buzz that the Bears could cut Kyle Fuller.

If they do, he’s my guy. He’s not what he once was, but at 29 he can be a great #2.

Hopefully not incredibly expensive at this stage of career.

As a cut, he would not impact the comp formula.

I love a Fuller type addition...just need to know asap because Rodgers restructure gotta fund this type of stuff!
 
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Salary aside I was stating...but wait, not sure I follow the "burning of their comp picks statement?" Can you elaborate, either not enough coffee or just having a slow moment.

Sorry... that comment didn't relate to this trade specifically, but to their offseason approach.

They paid good money to keep Okwara. They're signing mid-level veterans like Jamaal Williams, Tyrell Williams, Josh Hill. Those signings are costing them compensatory selections.

Now they're trading for Brockers, a 30 year old who should play for a "win now" club.

So they're taking a 2-4 win team and turning it into a 5-7 win team, while burning free draft capital in the process.

The Lions should be letting all their good veterans go, signing no one who would affect the comp formula, and trying to land a really high pick. As it is, they're going to end up in no man's land.
 
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I love a Fuller type addition...just need to know asap because Rodgers restructure gotta fund this type of stuff!

They must have some idea of how they would pay for it, because they seem to still be "in" on a number of names.
 

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They must have some idea of how they would pay for it, because they seem to still be "in" on a number of names.

I know some say they wouldn't or won't do it this way, but Rodgers could have an informal request "I'll do this, if you get me that" I know I'd be doing that if I'm him.
 
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