Fire MM!

[Pokerbrat2000]

Can Craig Council coach football?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Yeah, the play was clearly not executed the way it was supposed to be.

I've watched the play several times and its pretty obvious the Rams knew it was coming and played it really well. As much discredit as we are giving MM and the Packer players, have to give credit to the Rams for sniffing it out. All that said, I would hope next time AR gets behind center and sees that the defense is lined up in a way that might make it a tough play to pull off, he audibles out of it. Also, as mentioned in other posts, I have Williams back there if you are going to run the ball.

 

[Dantés]

Exactly, and no play if you execute it like that is going to work for **** most times in that situation. It was doomed from the start practically.

The reason I this common sense dictates putting Williams back there is that he's shown the ability time and again to gain yards through contact. I think he could have avoided the safety.

 

[swhitset]

Serious question.


A lot of times, part of a reason you hear is, coach lost the locker room..

To me, that means players don't want to play for him..

VS the Rams no one can say this tea wasn't ready to play.

Agree or disagree that they weren't ready to play?

i’d put an agree on your post ... but your last question would make that ambiguous .... so i will state that we are in agreement.... they WERE ready to play.

 

[swhitset]

please, no Brett Favre crap. Welcome to the forum by the way.

Honestly i wish that people would stop reacting like that every time Favre is mentioned. Yes, it was a contentious period in here when he left ... I get it and yes I was here then too even though my profile does not reflect that. But he was a great Qb for this team for a very long time and at this point this kind of constant reaction is simply a distraction and unnecessary. And for the record no ... I don’t think Favre would make a good head coach nor does he have the credentials in that area to be considered.

 

[swhitset]

It would be interesting if OBJ came to the Packers, I'll say that...

no thank you

 

[Mondio]

It is kind of a puzzler. Maybe Williams gets an extra 1/2 yard then it's rinse and repeat on second down. In any event, the problem was screwed up blocking, maybe a miscommunication. It was an 8 man line on a between the tackles run and nobody accounted for Barron standing right in front of the targetted hole. In particular, on a call running right of center with an 8 man line, why would Linsley be chipping left, then bouncing out looking for Joyner who had walked up into the box. It's pretty clear the call was not for Bulaga to make that block or he misunderstood that it was his deal. He was sealing right against the defensive stack, then tried to save it with a reach.

The earlier situation on the Packers own 4 yard line is an interesting contrast. Peters was playing 8 yards off MVS. Quick flip to MVS a yard behind the line for a 4 yard gain. Mission accomplished, but not exactly a no brainer. Despite that deep set, Peters reacted well and MVS was able to work off the tackle that could have easily been a no-gainer. Was it a run call with Williams looking to get a few plus yards and a little breathing room, with an audible to the off coverage? Good chance.

On the safety play, with single wide, Hill was 5 yards off MVS, then Joyner signaled to Hill who then took a step up, making an attempted repeat of the earlier throw particularly dangerous. You can see Rodgers scoping all that. If Hill was 8 yards off, Rodgers goes there again. Sometimes adjustments are not rocket science.

It’s funny to read this and then hear another interpretation of the play. Not saying yours is wrong or anything like that. I appreciate the synopsis, and I don’t rewatch parts to know any more than what I saw on Sunday.

But listening to the radio just now heading into work for a few hours and on Bill Michaels they’re making it sound like it was an RPO and MVS was wide open and Rodgers never looked at him and stuck with the run.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Honestly i wish that people would stop reacting like that every time Favre is mentioned. Yes, it was a contentious period in here when he left ... I get it and yes I was here then too even though my profile does not reflect that. But he was a great Qb for this team for a very long time and at this point this kind of constant reaction is simply a distraction and unnecessary. And for the record no ... I don’t think Favre would make a good head coach nor does he have the credentials in that area to be considered.

Opinions mate. We have an area especially for Mr Favre, but I take your point. We just don't need that subject causing mayhem on the threads.

 

[swhitset]

Opinions mate. We have an area especially for Mr Favre, but I take your point. We just don't need that subject causing mayhem on the threads.

But that is my point ... that area for Favre ... maybe it was necessary once... but at this point it is simply a distraction. And people reacting every time his name is mentioned is what causes this type of thread derailment. At this point... he is a former Packer great, and it seems only natural that his name will come up from time to time. It’s quite obvious that our opinions of him differ, and that is fine. I just don’t think his name should be treated as taboo.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

But listening to the radio just now heading into work for a few hours and on Bill Michaels they’re making it sound like it was an RPO and MVS was wide open and Rodgers never looked at him and stuck with the run.

While MVS was wide open, have to wonder if it was really a RPO, looked like a planned hand off to Jones the whole way. Maybe Rodgers didn't like how close the Rams player was to MVS so he didn't option out and that player might have seen the run and let up on him, but no doubt, when Jones hits the line of scrimmage carrying the ball, MVS is wide open.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

But that is my point ... that area for Favre ... maybe it was necessary once... but at this point it is simply a distraction. And people reacting every time his name is mentioned is what causes this type of thread derailment. At this point... he is a former Packer great, and it seems only natural that his name will come up from time to time. It’s quite obvious that our opinions of him differ, and that is fine. I just don’t think his name should be treated as taboo.

Unfortunately he will always be a traitor to quite a few on here, including myself but I will always respect your opinion.

 

[swhitset]

While MVS was wide open, have to wonder if it was really a RPO, looked like a planned hand off to Jones the whole way. Maybe Rodgers didn't like how close the Rams player was to MVS so he didn't option out and that player might have seen the run and let up on him, but no doubt, when Jones hits the line of scrimmage carrying the ball, MVS is wide open.

Obviously, the blame for that play lies with Ted Thompson. If he had not cut Sam Shields..... just a bit of humor

 

[swhitset]

Unfortunately he will always be a traitor to quite a few on here, including myself but I will always respect your opinion.

perhaps .... but it seems those type of comments are the ones that belong in the Favre area?

 

[Mondio]

While MVS was wide open, have to wonder if it was really a RPO, looked like a planned hand off to Jones the whole way. Maybe Rodgers didn't like how close the Rams player was to MVS so he didn't option out and that player might have seen the run and let up on him, but no doubt, when Jones hits the line of scrimmage carrying the ball, MVS is wide open.

The only part it matters is where the DB was at the snap really. 1 passing option and you fake a handoff and MVS is covered? running towards the middle of the field? you can't even launch it out of bounds to avoid a sack. You're as screwed as a running play with no where to go.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

perhaps .... but it seems those type of comments are the ones that belong in the Favre area?

I'm not going to win here obviously, so can we agree to disagree ?

 

[swhitset]

The only part it matters is where the DB was at the snap really. 1 passing option and you fake a handoff and MVS is covered? running towards the middle of the field? you can't even launch it out of bounds to avoid a sack. You're as screwed as a running play with no where to go.

well... he could roll out first to get out of the pocket, but with the tackles playing in for a run up the middle that sounds like a potential disaster as well.

 

[swhitset]

I'm not going to win here obviously, so can we agree to disagree ?

lol yep

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The only part it matters is where the DB was at the snap really. 1 passing option and you fake a handoff and MVS is covered? running towards the middle of the field? you can't even launch it out of bounds to avoid a sack. You're as screwed as a running play with no where to go.

or you run the play and it gets blown up for a safety I think if you asked Rodgers if he had a "do over", he would have faked the hand off and tried to either complete the pass to MVS or thrown it into the ground at MVS's feet. One play I have seen run to some success, but it takes a mobile QB, is a naked bootleg and if its covered, throw it away.

But meh....learn and move on, can't change the past.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm not going to win here obviously, so can we agree to disagree ?

Only if you two do it in the Favre Thread.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Only if you two do it in the Favre Thread.

How's your mind reading ?? What am I thinking right now ??

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

How's your mind reading ?? What am I thinking right now ??

I think those kinds of words will get you sent to the corner, or returning kicks for the Packers or riding tractors in Kiln, Mississippi!

 

[swhitset]

How's your mind reading ?? What am I thinking right now ??

I didn’t think he would be allowed to post that?

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

I didn’t think he would be allowed to post that?

he knows me so well Swhitset

 

[Sunshinepacker]

His own comments aside, it would be weird to be if he left a premier college program after only two seasons. I could see him jumping to the NFL eventually, but the timing doesn't seem right for him.

Not really. Only 32 NFL jobs in the world and they don't come around that often. Young coaches in college would be fools to pass up a chance to move to the NFL if they can make a lateral move directly to head coach.

 

[Mondio]

or you run the play and it gets blown up for a safety I think if you asked Rodgers if he had a "do over", he would have faked the hand off and tried to either complete the pass to MVS or thrown it into the ground at MVS's feet. One play I have seen run to some success, but it takes a mobile QB, is a naked bootleg and if its covered, throw it away.

But meh....learn and move on, can't change the past.

you won't seem saying it was a good play anywhere. You can't let the Dline get that much penetration inside the 1 and expect anything good to happen