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I'm not ignoring it; I just don't think it absolves MM's offense. It's not like they were moving the ball and just having to punt near midfield. Their three failed drives in the first half resulted in a total of 23 yards. They couldn't even take back some of the field position. They ran 20 fewer plays than the Rams despite forcing 7 punts.

There's no doubt the offense could have performed better in the first half, field position didn't help on those drives not resulting in points though.

I was glad to see MM finally give Jones the snaps he deserves. It was bizarre to me though that they didn't use Williams on the one. If there's ever a time to use Williams, it would seem to be there-- the guy's best attribute is that he gets YAC through contact. He stood a better chance of avoiding the safety. I don't get why you give him a pitch play, but use Jones when you need 3 yards and some breathing room. That's backwards.

I guarantee you I won't call a Halfback Dive from the 1/2 line of my OWN ENDZONE with ZERO lead blockers in a single back formation.

The reason I this common sense dictates putting Williams back there is that he's shown the ability time and again to gain yards through contact. I think he could have avoided the safety.

But listening to the radio just now heading into work for a few hours and on Bill Michaels they’re making it sound like it was an RPO and MVS was wide open and Rodgers never looked at him and stuck with the run.

I can't post the picture I made from the coaches film for some reason (I will try again later) but if the offensive line blocks Barron the way they were definitely supposed to Jones all but guaranteed picks up a huge chunk of yards on that play.

If he's able to beat Josh Johnson and Troy Hill we might be even talking about the second 99-yard TD run in NFL history.
 

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For a great look at how the offense compares to the rest of the league you can check out Bill Connelly's advanced stats for the Packers: https://www.sbnation.com/a/nfl-stats-data-analytics-2018

Just from that you can see that the Packers are:
  • 20th in the NFL on getting a first down on 1st or 2nd down
  • They're LAST in the NFL on avg yards to go on 3rd down (that's bad); and what's worse is that they're 30th in 3rd and long percentage (so they get to third and long the most and then have the most yards to go)
  • They're really good inside the 10-yard but just awful from 11 to 30 yards away from the endzone.

Just a few headlining stats.
 
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He won’t throw to open WR’s that he doesn’t “trust”. Which is BS btw.

Davante Adams dropped like 20 passes his rookie season, and Rodgers kept throwing to him, and he still kept dropping them.
 

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Davante Adams dropped like 20 passes his rookie season, and Rodgers kept throwing to him, and he still kept dropping them.
Adams’ first and second season weren’t very good. In addition to the drops, he developed the annoying and useless tactic of complaining to the refs. ARod stuck with him, his 3rd season was a breakout, and he’s among the league’s elite receivers.

And ARod is certainly throwing to MVS and EQ. Even Gmo only had one reception last Sunday. I don’t think it’s as hard for a WR to get into a rhythm with ARod, and it looks like we have a lot more talent at WR then we all thought back in August.

Out of the three rookie WRs, I thought J’Mon would develop the fastest. I guess MVS and EQ had other ideas and worked for the chances they’re getting, and executing.
 

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Davante had a fine rookie season. Huge games against the Pats and the infamous Cowboys playoff game.

Year 2 was the absolute disaster.
 

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I feel like many of the offensive issues are on Rodgers. He is definitely holding on to the ball way too long. Too many times you see a guy wide open for the dump off and he wants to scramble and then he gets sacked. He constantly puts the offense in tough situations. He is missing guys who as are wide open or throwing behind them. Only reason he does well later in games is because teams start doing that prevent defense garbage.

I'm not downplaying how great he is and can be. But something is off and I don't think it's the whole knee thing. I think he not happy with the plays being called and trying too much to make something happen
 
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Davante Adams dropped like 20 passes his rookie season, and Rodgers kept throwing to him, and he still kept dropping them.

Adams had only four drops during his rookie campaign but had 10 in his second season.

I feel like many of the offensive issues are on Rodgers. He is definitely holding on to the ball way too long. Too many times you see a guy wide open for the dump off and he wants to scramble and then he gets sacked. He constantly puts the offense in tough situations. He is missing guys who as are wide open or throwing behind them. Only reason he does well later in games is because teams start doing that prevent defense garbage.

Rodgers hasn't performed at an elite level so far this season but you exaggerate about his struggles.
 
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Here's the picture taken from coaches film of the Rams safety. Once again, if the offensive line blocks Barron there's a good chance Jones gains a lot of yards on that run.

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Our pad level integrity is a couple inches from being 8-0. We will look at the tape and clean it up simple as that. Right now we are a highly successful 3-4-1 team and we will learn from that and adjust the variables.
 

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3-4-1 is absolutely unacceptable with Rodgers as ur Qb.. Green Bay is done McCarthy is done unless he makes a deep playoff run... but let’s be real they ain’t sniffing the playoffs
 

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3-4-1 is absolutely unacceptable with Rodgers as ur Qb.. Green Bay is done McCarthy is done unless he makes a deep playoff run... but let’s be real they ain’t sniffing the playoffs
I agree 100%. It is one of those years where it isn’t meant to be so far. Missing 5 kicks in a game,the roughing calls on Clay,the fumbles at crucial times and one from a player who went rogue,and ARod being hurt and he seems to have lost his mojo at times this year. It is one of those perfect storms that may keep brewing and wash this team clean for next year.
 

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It is one of those perfect storms that may keep brewing and wash this team clean for next year.

I would like to believe the "oh bad things just keep happening to the Packers and it will turn around" thing. But good teams find a way to win despite injuries, bad calls, mistakes. The Packers can't seem to do that. Last night the Patriots were without 3 key starters on Offense (Gronk, Michel and Mason), but didn't seem to skip a beat.
 

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The Pats are better coached i think Brady is very overated he does hardly anything all game and only plays well roughly about a Qtr
 

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anyone off hand remember....when we actully beat a team with winning record. not this year...i dont think last year. was it dallas in the playoffs...with crosby kick? how about regualar season.
 

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It appears that the 13-3 season that many of us predicted (myself included) just isn't happening this year is it.

Given that the Packers would have to go something like 7-1 to have any realistic chance of making the playoffs, does anybody REALLY believe they have a realistic chance of beating the Saints, Rams, Chiefs or Patriots in the playoffs anyway?

Might as well jettison TubCarthy and start over.
 

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Besides the sorry bills and having a legit lead over the Vikings til the end and yeah the rams.. like idk how long it’s been since I have been worried about not winning with Rodgers as our qb.. they haven’t played with a commanding lead for how long!? Like the dolphins have no business coming to lambeau next week winning but I’m gonna be honest they might actually lose that game.. I wanna see a frickin blowout and I don’t think it’s gonna happen once this year... they are hanging by a thread.. even if they make the playoffs they ain’t gonna beat the saints or the rams in the playoffs away.. if they want any chance of winning the division they HAVE to win the next three games and if they lose to the Vikings they are 100% done the Vikings aren’t gonna piddle around losing to shrub teams to keep the division in reach... I just can’t help but think this another wasted season with Rodgers... Brett favre and Rodgers as ur qb over the last 20+ years and only 2 Super Bowls!? ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE
 
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Our pad level integrity is a couple inches from being 8-0. We will look at the tape and clean it up simple as that. Right now we are a highly successful 3-4-1 team and we will learn from that and adjust the variables.
The pad level meme is pretty well exhausted. It's been a few years since McCarthy was carping on it.
 
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I can't help but think Rodgers is wasting his own season. he's not sharp, he's not accurate, he's not Rodgers. If you're going to keep saying we should do this and should be this and should win that, then you better hold Mr. Rodgers just as accountable. I know he's been injured. I know other things are happening around him and I also know that he has not been very good other than in spurts this season. that's not good enough. Stay consistent people if you're going to just come here to *****.
 
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It appears that the 13-3 season that many of us predicted (myself included) just isn't happening this year is it.
Did it take a 4th. loss to come to that conclusion? Actually, with the tie, the 3rd. loss killed it, but that would be splitting hairs.
 

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It appears that the 13-3 season that many of us predicted (myself included) just isn't happening this year is it.

Given that the Packers would have to go something like 7-1 to have any realistic chance of making the playoffs, does anybody REALLY believe they have a realistic chance of beating the Saints, Rams, Chiefs or Patriots in the playoffs anyway?

Might as well jettison TubCarthy and start over.
I don’t think they should ever think about tanking when there is a lot of football left.. but I agree they can’t find a way to win and they beat sorry *** teams BARELY.. Like I just said even if they made the playoffs they ain’t gonna beat the saints in there stadium maybe the rams but sure as hell the saints will pick them a part.. they can lose 1 more potentially they have to win the division to get in panthers are gonna get a wild card if they saints win the division don’t count out the eagles sniffing there way in even the seahawks who I thought was gonna blow this year.. they gotta win out
 
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