Blame Gute AFTER Love gets his fair shake if you choose. Not before and not until. The Packers still were among the league's elites in 2020 and 2021 after Love was on the roster. Unlike those Packer units the 2005 team needed help in LOTS of places. Drafting a 1st round QB was the last thing we needed then. We had a QB that NEVER missed a start. Yet no one railed Thompson for picking Rodgers the way you rail Gute for picking Love.
The Packers were in a win now mode coming off making it to the NFCCG the previous season in 2020. It didn't make any sense to spend their most precious asset that offseason on a player who won't have any immediate impact. The situation was completely different in 2005 with the Packers being in a rebuild mode it made sense to focus on the future.
As a side note, while I wasn't around on the forum in 2005 Thompson took a lot of heat from fans for drafting Rodgers.
Oh don't get me wrong he as been good, more than good in many ways...but I'll be honest I had him coming into the league and being the new Jefferson or Chase type guy truthfully.
I will forever hang my hat on Pittman as the one guy I think Gute missed on...but to be fair if Love proves to be an NFL caliber QB I will concede defeat LOL
Agreed, Pittman hasn't been an elite receiver but definitely good enough that he would have been the #2 on the Packers as long as Adams was around.
I will concede defeat if the Packers win a Super Bowl with Love. Otherwise I will continue to consider drafting him a mistake.
Those were the first 4 of at least 50+ and in consecutive order. I can move on to the next 4. Then you can tell us all the excuses again.
It's truly sad that you don't understand there's a huge difference criticizing the pick compared to disparaging Love. I have definitely been vocal about not liking the selection a ton of times but as I have mentioned repeatedly I haven't discredited Love at all. I only need to defend myself because of your lame attempt at making it look like I did.
You said I couldn’t offer evidence of repetitive and consecutive, negative posts about Jordan and to the point you are belligerent about demanding these.
Once again, none of the posts you quoted were disparaging Love at all.
“Cobb completely bailed out Love on that 35-yard completion. That was a bad throw that gets picked off more often than not”
Ok, now other posters aren't allowed to criticize a throw by Love anymore?
Take a look at the play and tell me what you truly think about it. In my opinion it was a bad decision by him throwing a wobbler late across his body while being pressured. Cobb adjusted perfectly to it and made a superb catch on a throw that will get picked off a lot at this level.
“Love not being able to set the protection correctly is partly to blame for it though”
It was pretty obvious to everyone Love wasn't able to read the Chiefs defense properly that day. Once again, I'm shocked you think that shouldn't be allowed to be pointed out.
Let me ask you a question. Do you honestly suggest Love performed well against the Chiefs? Let's take a look at PFF's grading for him that day (once again, I'm well aware they aren't perfect by any means but good enough for tyni to make a thread about it every single game, therefore I'm going with them on it here as well).
They graded him at 30.0 for his performance against the Chiefs. That is beyond terrible. To put that into perspective, in the past two seasons only seven quarterbacks who started a game earned a worse grade in a game. That list includes such elite players like Colt McCoy, Mike Glennon, Joe Flacco, PJ Walker, Kyle Allen and David Blough.
“Of course a receiver must make a play for a pass to be completed as well but that doesn't mean the quarterback should throw a lot of passes up for grabs”
(Exaggeration) Define “”a lot” of passes up for grabs””??
It's pretty simple, a quarterback shouldn't throw a lot of passes up for grabs. That should be pretty easy to understand. Do you disagree with that statement?
“There's absolutely no reason to play Love against the Rams as Rodgers gives the team by far the best chance of winning it. “
“In addition playing scared is a recipe for disaster as well.”
“If Rodgers mobility is limited because of the toe injury the Packers need to come up with a game plan to protect him from taking a beating.
That's not a valid argument to rest him [Aaron] though”
This was a series of posts around #610 (2021) with your repetitive opinion that we should play an injured Rodgers. Then recently just several weeks (2023) ago you claim playing Rodgers when he’s injured (thumb) is an indicative of Jordan being a terrible QB this last season.
Essentially you strongly advocate for Love NOT to play (repeatedly) when Aaron is injured, then when Love doesn’t play for an injured Rodgers last year…. You indict him for it. You even go as far as to say that Love obviously is worse healthy than Rodgers is with a broken bone in his throwing hand!
Explain why you take both opposing sides of the same injury argument??
That should be pretty easy to understand as well. I wanted the Packers to play Rodgers as long as he gives the team the best chance of winning even when injured. I feel pretty good about when I posted that before the Rams game in 2021 as he went on to throw 16 TDs and zero INTs over the last six games of the regular season after I made that comment.
With him struggling last season with a broken thumb it would have made sense for the team to play Love ahead of him if they deemed he was ready to be a starter. Obviously the coaching staff didn't feel that way though.
In addition, remember that there were reports out there that MLF would have preferred the team to keep Rodgers around for the upcoming season.
