Justin Jefferson? Maybe gets us a SB win. Slight but more realistic chance there in 2020 or 2021 (35% etc)
The job is there for the taking. Lots of other teams do not have that opportunity.
Really the same situation at S and WR.
Those wanting only immediate impact players to be drafted, should add the 2019 #12 pick, used on Rashan Gary, onto their lists. Of course, what they fail to see is how a GM thinks and how drafting for the future is just as important as drafting for the present.
No doubt Doubs has a leg up on most of the other WR's. However, if both are healthy, I'd say Watson is the #1. Doubs kind of disappeared halfway through the season. That said, I think if he continues to have the offseason that it sounds like he has had, he will no doubt get a lot of playing time.
Although unlike S and WR the Packers have not really had a bona-fide TE since Finley or maybe Jared Cook. Unless we want to say Tonyan.
Or maybe some fans like a mix of drafting for the present as well as the future. As I have stated numerous times I like when the Packers win games. I also realize to be on the run they have been on takes a mix of present and future when drafting. IMO QB is it's own entity. Our starter was firmly entrenched, no need to trade up and reach. Also in my opinion the mix is just a little too much future over present. If they had money for FA to address present I would be more on board with the current future over present draft philosophy. FTR IMO Gute is an above average GM. Nobody is going to be perfect. I just happen to like to give my opinion on a mostly opinion based message board. I plead guilty to that.
To be blunt, if a fan doesn't understand that, they really don't understand how to maintain long term success. I get the notion of "going all in to try and win a SB", but if doing that puts a team in a bad position for the future, I would question doing it. It takes some luck to actually win a SB and just a few key injuries can derail a season.
Fully agree. Which is why I think Gute finally addressed the glaring need at TE. I get it though, under Gutes watch. Tonyan has a breakout season in 2020, then gets injured in 2021, so they really weren't sure what they had in him.
I literally agreed with everything you said in that post and thank you for the stats you researched.
Now if that would have happened when WOULD we have drafted a replacement for Rodgers? If it was in 2022 he would be an awfully green Green Bay Packer starting in 2023.
In response to the part? I don’t know why anyone would do that, but you were the one who was defending Tee, so do some self soul searching. Sorry I could resist!
Btw Chase regressed in 2022, so what was Tee Higgins excuse in 2020? Or 2022?
I’m not saying Tee is not a good WR. I’d even love to have him, so please don’t spin this, he might even eventually hit WR1 just not quite there yet.
Tee Higgins was not so dynamic that he could overcome our Defense or ST getting gashed. It would’ve taken more than Tee Higgins. Hold Tampa <= 21 points and then we can talk about how ~15 yards per game increase (over Lazard) takes us into a SB Champion. Captain, we can’t allow teams to come into Lambeau and score 31 points or embarrass us in ST all day and still expect to Win. Those are games that you need to get stingy in D and at least hold opponents under 20-24 points max. Then I’d agree with you.. That’s an area a WR2 can come in and make a big difference. I have nothing against Tee Higgins I even thought we might grab him at one point.
But the narrative is (by some), had Love not been drafted, Rodgers would have been happy and content in Green Bay and played well into his 40's.
So by that theory, the only reason Rodgers is not a Packer, is that he just couldn't get over being jilted by Gute during the 2020 draft.As Mr. Mom Michael Keaton might say: 2020-2021-2022 whatever it takes.
Actually that would’ve had about the same effect. As Captain eluded to its really hard to get a player who’s effective enough to change games at #26 overall. The % is very small at Offense and Defense. Even smaller inside 2 seasons. That’s why I said it’s not the player (or the position) it’s more the later draft placing. By #26 and beyond (#30 etc) you iften get a high potential player, but rarely an immediate game changer.
I do not believe he would have been happy nor Gute unless the team won a SB in that window. And the cap issues would have still been there and at this point except for the hurt feelings the Packers would still be looking to move on kind of like Brady but a few seasons earlier. At which point we would be floundering like New England is now with no real heir to Brady in a division in which 3 other teams are better than yours. Garropolo could have been the Brady replacement but he was there too soon. We could argue that Love got here too soon, too late, or at just the right time. If he is to succeed this is the right time.But the narrative is (by some), had Love not been drafted, Rodgers would have been happy and content in Green Bay and played well into his 40's.
