We know Gute saw Edge, Safety, and OL as needs in free agency that he wanted to fill so his draft board is more opened up. You can't wrap your head around the fact that Gute possibly may not see OL as big of a need as you do?
Again for the last time, Gute may very well have a OL as the highest player on his board when he picks at 12, 30, or 44. He may take a OL as the best player available with those picks. He won't though be taking one under pressure of "need."
And you can't wrap your head around the possibility that he might still see the OL as big of a need as he does. I think we all agree that we do need help at a variety of positions. Given the players likely to be available to us I think that it is very good chance that the BPA at #12 is going to be a player that also fills a need. So when Gute makes the pick is it out of need or is it BPA? Why can't it be both? Will it be our greatest need? Who knows as no one knows which position Gute thinks is our greatest position of need. For that matter know one knows who Gute will think is the BPA.
We will see what happens. I will be sitting in front of the 86 inch stressed.
They are saying about guys and their big TVs the same thing they used to say about guys and their cars.
Ted Thompson who Brian Gutekunst often says "taught me nearly everything I know":
"We feel very strongly that our best policy is to draft the best player regardless of need. This isn't fantasy football"
Fans perceived "need" now could be different in August due to injuries. And your new "need" in August could change in October.
Taking the best player is always the best approach and the Packers under Gute or his mentor TT before him, have stayed as true to this philosophy as any team in the NFL.
You sure seem to think that people always mean exactly what they say by the way you use quotes as proof for everything. And I used to think Captain took things a little too literally sometimes.
Pretty much every GM says the same thing every year (unless they are looking for a QB) About the only thing you have said that makes any sense is that needs can change.
As far as Gute and TT staying as true to that philosophy as any other team you may be right. That doesn't mean they stay all that true to the philosophy
If there are 2 players with a similar grade by a GM on their board I do think need factors in. I also think need factors in more in later rounds.
Neither of us are "smart GM's" of a NFL team and we have never been in a draft room during a draft so we are mostly speculating here, but judging from comments I've read and heard from countless NFL GM's over many years, I do believe taking the best player is your best path to success in any draft.
Isn't that what he has been saying all along. There is also the idea of what what truly makes a player the "best player" Take the Chiefs for example. They have Mahommes and their secondary is a wreck lets say Haskins and Deandre baker are both available when it comes their turn to pick. Which one is the best player. Some would argue Haskins (based on top 50 lists) and the Chiefs might even think he is the best player but would he really be the best player for them to take. I don't think so. They take Baker because he is the best player for them to take.
You like to use word "tier" which is irrelevant here.
It was 20 players that were above their first round line.
You are too caught up in always trying to prove me somehow wrong on something to have a discussion with you. It gets old. Js.
So you have a first round tier, second round tier etc. Rodgers was the only one left with a first round grade so they took him. As for your second point Pot/kettle.
Whatever though..moving on
Why do I get the feeling we won't be moving on. I know, I know, I'm not helping.
We don't have the knowledge of who Ted or Gute viewed as the BPA when they made their picks. However, we do have the knowledge that Ted and Gute both have said: "We feel very strongly that our best policy is to draft the best player. This isn't fantasy football"
I do think need comes into play a little more in the later rounds. If you look over Ted's drafts I think a strong case can be made for that. But need is never the main reason a player is taken. Maybe other GM's do that, but not in Green Bay. At least under Ron Wolf, Ted Thompson, and Brian Gutekunst.
Some may argue that Jaire and Josh were need picks last year. Gute has said Jaire was the highest player on his board at 18. Josh then was still there at 45. Some will say "Well he isn't going to say he picked them for need but he really did." I tend not to buy that theory. And instead stick with Ted and Gute's long standing strongly held belief in taking the best player regardless of position.
Because they say so it has to be true. Again. Just because someone says something doesn't mean its the absolute truth. Do you really think Gute is going to say "Well you know, there were lots of better players out there but we needed a cornerback so we took Jaire." He may very well have had Alexander tops on his list but on the other hand he may have had him tied with some other player or even 1 or 2 below and took Jaire because it was a greater need. Still at the top of his board or close enough to say so but need won out. As far as Jones I think a lot of people were surprised he fell so he may have been #1 on the board.
