Wide Receiver Options

[Krabs]

Wow we are depleted at WR!

Now Lazard may miss Week 8
Then Cobb is on IR

Watson may be out?

Then We’ve got Sammy coming off IR last week and not full speed yet.

This could be ugly

It's Toure time baby! Maybe a little Winfree too!

 

[Krabs]

Some names that have been suggested by "experts" (or whoever...) as potential options:

Chase Claypool
DJ Moore
Elijah Moore
Nelson Agholor
Kendrick Bourne
Jerry Jeudy
Brandin Cooks
Denzel Mims
Kenny Golladay

(Of course OBJ as a free agent too)

Any of those seem particularly feasible and/or 'move the needle' much for you?

Claypool would be the player I would want. However, I've read that he is not really available. By that I mean, every player could be dealt, but they want a kings ransom for him and no team is willing to do that.

With the injuries this team has, I would pretty much take any player on that list. That is, except for any players in parenthesis.

 

[gopkrs]

that still illustrates it even more perfectly. That ball is on it's way and the only reason Sammy's defender isn't playing Sammy anymore is because the ball is already in the air to Doubs for any easy new set of downs if Sammy does his job. There's a good chance Sammy is not running free when his defender is actually playing him and not the ball in the air.

Yeah, I can see that from this foto

 

[OldSchool101]

Really ugly. Probably see a bunch of 3 TE sets I imagine. That says run the ball. And the Bills will be right there.

Maybe God is trying to tell Matt to Run the darn ball! I mean what does he need? a telegram notarized by the Angel Gabriel himself!
Now watch us have like 11 Rushes all day

PS. Look at the bright side we can take the Bills on a Safari Toure.. I mean Samorie Toure

 

[milani]

Maybe God is trying to tell Matt to Run the darn ball! I mean what does he need? a telegram notarized by the Angel Gabriel himself!
Now watch us have like 11 Rushes all day

PS. Look at the bright side we can take the Bills on a Safari Toure.. I mean Samorie Toure

Lombardi never abandoned the run whether it was a decimated offensive line or a third string backfield or an All Pro defensive line.

 

[OldSchool101]

Lombardi never abandoned the run whether it was a decimated offensive line or a third string backfield or an All Pro defensive line.

Interesting.
I know times have changed. However a counter game-plan remains similar in situations where you are “out-talented”. Run the ball and eat the clock and go for it out of scoring range on 4th n short. If for any reason they can’t stop it regular on 4th n short, it gets humiliating for a team that’s supposed to blow you out. W’eve all seen this, Their O sits and waits their turn. Slow the game down and keep the game clock churning.
This game is very psychological. Often as long as you stay within a score just 1 late game turnover can be devastating to your opponents confidence as they see momentum swing.
We’ve all been on the wrong side of that equation and even when your winning you can just feel momentum swing into their favor.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Interesting.
I know times have changed. However a counter game-plan remains similar in situations where you are “out-talented”. Run the ball and eat the clock and go for it out of scoring range on 4th n short. If for any reason they can’t stop it regular on 4th n short, it gets humiliating for a team that’s supposed to blow you out. W’eve all seen this, Their O sits and waits their turn. Slow the game down and keep the game clock churning.
This game is very psychological. Often as long as you stay within a score just 1 late game turnover can be devastating to your opponents confidence as they see momentum swing.
We’ve all been on the wrong side of that equation and even when your winning you can just feel momentum swing into their favor.

Times have changed. I've posted this before but the whole "just run the darn ball" thing doesn't actually work without the threat of a passing game,

Against the Jets: On 1st down the Packers ran the ball 11 times and gained 25 yards. Aaron Jones was 6 for 10 and Dillon was 5 for 15. So, in this just run the ball all the time, the Packers are now commonly facing 2nd and 7+ and just deciding to run the ball anyway. Heaven forbid the offense get a penalty cause then you might as well just punt cause there's zero chance of gaining 15+ yards on 3 consecutive runs. "Just run the dang ball!" feels good to shout but makes for a really terrible offense (even worse than the one we're seeing).

 

[OldSchool101]

Times have changed. I've posted this before but the whole "just run the darn ball" thing doesn't actually work without the threat of a passing game,

Against the Jets: On 1st down the Packers ran the ball 11 times and gained 25 yards. Aaron Jones was 6 for 10 and Dillon was 5 for 15. So, in this just run the ball all the time, the Packers are now commonly facing 2nd and 7+ and just deciding to run the ball anyway. Heaven forbid the offense get a penalty cause then you might as well just punt cause there's zero chance of gaining 15+ yards on 3 consecutive runs. "Just run the dang ball!" feels good to shout but makes for a really terrible offense (even worse than the one we're seeing).

The Jets?
After the first half (38 plays) against the Jets we ran 7 times and passed the ball 31 times! 82% passing
We scored 3 points that half, was passing successful in your opinion?

Dillon ran 10 times for 4.1 per. That’s without even committing the correct personnel to run.

Put your best run blockers out there. You’ve got some good TE also. That mix should’ve included 20 runs and that’s why we failed.

The first drive needs to be up tempo. In every game. No huddle and you can pass or run but quick quick quick vit vit vit tempo. Run a :90 sec drill there and practice the script so everyone knows exactly what the play is and runs to the next Snap like there’s a fire in the building.

 

[PackerDNA]

I'm thinking Jerry Juedy of the Broncos might end up being our best bet if we trade for a wide receiver.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

The Jets were already known to have one of the better DL in the league. It’s their backfield that is pedestrian.

Their might be 3 exceptions in 10 and you are correct about the Jets. Those teams it’s somewhat business as usual, but with a slightly larger than normal Run mix is all.

The other thing you need to understand. If you put your best 5 Run blockers out their and use your 2 best run blocking TE’s more, you’d be surprised

Okay, against Washington the Packers faced 2nd and 10+ nine times. They ran the ball 7 times for 20 yards on first down. Just running against defenses that don’t fear any threat of the pass is a losing proposition.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

The Jets?
After the first half (38 plays) against the Jets we ran 7 times and passed the ball 31 times! 82% passing
We scored 3 points that half, was passing successful in your opinion?

Dillon ran 10 times for 4.1 per. That’s without even committing the correct personnel to run.

Put your best run blockers out there. You’ve got some good TE also. That mix should’ve included 20 runs and that’s why we failed.

The first drive needs to be up tempo. In every game. No huddle and you can pass or run but quick quick quick vit vit vit tempo. Run a :90 sec drill there and practice the script so everyone knows exactly what the play is and runs to the next Snap like there’s a fire in the building.

As long as the Packers can't threaten opponents with a deep passing game they won't be consistently successful running or throwing the ball. It won't make any difference with defenses being able to crowd the LOS.

 

[rodell330]

The unit as a whole is bottom of the trash can garbage juice. The end

 

[PackerDNA]

Shefter floating a rumor of AJ Green to the Packers.

 

[Pkrjones]

Shefter floating a rumor of AJ Green to the Packers.

Not sure that he would tip the scales and add much to the offense... but he's cheap! GB would owe approx. $950k for the remainder of the year in base salary & roster bonus $.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Shefter floating a rumor of AJ Green to the Packers.

That would be the perfect cap on the season. We could all watch a receiver with the movement skills of Frankenstein try and save the offense.

 

[MadCat]

That would be the perfect cap on the season. We could all watch a receiver with the movement skills of Frankenstein try and save the offense.

I hope the rumor isn’t true. It’s just too little, too late.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I hope the rumor isn’t true. It’s just too little, too late.

Gute's acumen at GM is rapidly descending to confusing levels (he wants to rebuild, then he wants to go all in, but then he ignores obvious areas of need to actually go all in) but I don't think he's THAT bad.

 

[Mondio]

I didn't even know he was still playing. I have my doubts he can run and move like he used to and last time I think he was really relevant was 3-4 seasons ago already. I could be completely wrong, I don't think i've seen him play in 2 years, but my gut tells me it won't be enough or even close to it.

 

[MadCat]

Gute's acumen at GM is rapidly descending to confusing levels (he wants to rebuild, then he wants to go all in, but then he ignores obvious areas of need to actually go all in) but I don't think he's THAT bad.

I agree. I don’t understand why they‘d go beyond all in at QB and then turn around and put this kind of WR group together. It‘s the antithesis of all in.

I know we‘re cash-strapped, but what do they have against trying to make a play for a fast, dependable WR who’s still even somewhat in his prime?

 

[tynimiller]

I didn't even know he was still playing. I have my doubts he can run and move like he used to and last time I think he was really relevant was 3-4 seasons ago already. I could be completely wrong, I don't think i've seen him play in 2 years, but my gut tells me it won't be enough or even close to it.

His stats:

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[tynimiller]

Honestly to put up 848 yards last year only doing 9 starts, less than a 100 targets...that's actually quite impressive.

 

[tynimiller]

Which...just for the record:

2021 Arizona stat leaders:

Christian Kirk - 982 yards (894 snaps)
AJ Green - 848 (888 snaps)
Zach Ertz - 574 (618 snaps)
DeAndre Hopkins - 572 (560 snaps)
Rondale Moore - 435 (432 snaps)

Per snap out there he essentially delivered production at a rate VERY similar to Hop

 

[milani]

Shefter floating a rumor of AJ Green to the Packers.

That could be. AJ did help win a game for us last year....in AZ.

 

[gopkrs]

I think if this team turns it around; they have to do it themselves. Why pick up more debt in our situation? You guys are way optimistic.

 

[Schultz]

I didn't even know he was still playing. I have my doubts he can run and move like he used to and last time I think he was really relevant was 3-4 seasons ago already. I could be completely wrong, I don't think i've seen him play in 2 years, but my gut tells me it won't be enough or even close to it.

Pretty sure you saw him play last year. He was the Arizona receiver who never turned around when Douglas picked off Murray in the endzone to win that game. Maybe not I think it was a Thursday night game and was probably on the NFL Network. On a side note if Arizona throws in a time machine and a miracle healer for AR, Bakh, Jenkins, Cobb, Watkins and Green I am all for the trade. On the other hand how could another AJ on the team not help?