Week 9 Sunday late game at Kansas City (Pregame and after game thread)

[milani]

Just too nit pick.
Saying that playing without King does make me laugh. I am not one of the guys that think he is the worst CB in the league but his issues have led to Stokes and Douglass seeing a lot of snaps. He should not be included when discussing hurdles the team has to hurdle.
I am very happy the Ram game is at home. Why do a lot of posters tend to overlook Baltimore? Very scary match-up.

He can be a fill in for an injury since he is the one out with injuries every year.

 

[BrokenArrow]

I don't think it's just because he is not vaccinated. Sure some will hold that alone against him but I think for many it is the deceptive, or at least perceived deceptive, way he went about it. Saying he was "immunized" when asked if he was vaccinated for example. Not wearing a mask when unvaccinated players were required to do so. I don't know the exact protocols for unvaccinated players so I cant speak to that but there were plenty of times he was seen maskless. Was he following the proper protocol or not. Many think he was not. League investigation will determine that.

IMO, what wears and doesn't wear on his own time should be his business.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I'm thinking they will load the box. Only way to have them stop doing it is beat them with passes. Then when they change; we can go back to the run. I don't think we can beat out heads against the wall trying to run. We'll have to throw it to loosen them up and so we have to give Love protection. I hope he does not have to run too much.

Packers have to find ways to run the ball. Counting on Jordan Love to beat the Chiefs at home via the passing game is a great recipe for turnovers and rushed throws; keep the passing game simple and emphasize short throws (to receivers but also running backs). Teams stack the box all the time against run-first teams and they still manage to run the ball. Coaches need to gameplan and players need to not miss assignments. Packers have one of the best running backs in the NFL, I'm sure they'll find a way.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

i think you have that twisted around. rodgers said he wanted to play his entire career with the packers. it was murphy and gute who made the decision for aaron to move on.

I never read or heard that Murphy and Gute had made the decision for Aaron to move on. When did that happen and what exactly did either or both of them say? That blows me away, never heard it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I am a believer in keeping 3 QB’s all year is that the PS # is higher.
(1 protected on PS or similar) and not playing the shell game at backup when one is out. That way we don’t miss a beat when these situations arise. It makes it super easy to elevate a QB to backup to starter on game day while simply passing him in the hallway. Verses this calling people out of retirement.

Not sure if you realize it, but the Packers did have 3 QB's. Rodgers and Love on the 53 and Benkert on the practice Squad. Problem is, Benkert got Covid and Rodgers after him. I believe those two room together on the road.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

That's his business.

NO it`s not just his business, he lied. THAT`S JUST WRONG !

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Still have to wonder how many of his teammates knew he wasn't vaccinated. If some didn't know, are their opinions of their leader now any different?

According to his disturbing interview on the Pat McAfee show his teammates knew about him not be vaccinated.

 

[weeds]

Packers have to find ways to run the ball. Counting on Jordan Love to beat the Chiefs at home via the passing game is a great recipe for turnovers and rushed throws; keep the passing game simple and emphasize short throws (to receivers but also running backs). Teams stack the box all the time against run-first teams and they still manage to run the ball. Coaches need to gameplan and players need to not miss assignments. Packers have one of the best running backs in the NFL, I'm sure they'll find a way.

I think that's a given. They're going to HAVE to establish the run - and that is going to depend on the O-line winning their individual "battle" with the guy in front of him. That is always true ... but this game more than usual because as Joe Buck will tell you the Chiefs are going to try to force Love/Lefluer into beating them. Andy Reid is sophisticated enough to know that the best way to beat a "rookie" QB is to pressure him out of his comfort zone - which is easy enough when the QB hasn't played enough to know where his comfort zone is.

On the flip side of that coin - I think this a fantastic opportunity to see Love play with first team OL and receivers. Pre-season, we saw him playing against 1st team defenders (well, a mix of them anyway) behind a 2nd and 3rd string line and receivers. I have some hope that Love can find a comfort zone behind starters. KC's defense might stink leading up to this game, but I'm sure Reid is mixing up those defensive schemes to frustrate Love.

I still believe the Pack is going to have to put up 30 for a shot at winning. The Chiefs are smelling blood ...

 

[BrokenArrow]

NO it`s not just his business, he lied. THAT`S JUST WRONG !

No he didn't. He never claimed to have been vaccinated!

 

[weeds]

No he didn't. He never claimed to have been vaccinated!

When Bill Clinton was being impeached for staining the chubby girl's dress and then lying about it, he was asked directly whether or not he had *** with her. His reply was that of a lawyer splitting hairs - and I paraphrase - "You'll have to define having ***". That was OK too - Clinton was fighting a battle to win Public Opinion support ... so is Aaron Rodgers. Mind you, I want #12 playing - but don't give two hoots about Aaron Rodgers the person. I'm not a "fan" of individual players (except Kramer and Starr - both exceptional human beings) - but I've never purchased their jersey neither.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

When Bill Clinton was being impeached for staining the chubby girl's dress and then lying about it, he was asked directly whether or not he had *** with her. His reply was that of a lawyer splitting hairs - and I paraphrase - "You'll have to define having ***". That was OK too - Clinton was fighting a battle to win Public Opinion support ... so is Aaron Rodgers. Mind you, I want #12 playing - but don't give two hoots about Aaron Rodgers the person. I'm not a "fan" of individual players (except Kramer and Starr - both exceptional human beings) - but I've never purchased their jersey neither.

If he is our best option for a win against the Chiefs then obviously I want him on the field but he may have cost us a win by his failure to be honest. I`m with you here Weeds, I only have a few heroes, although being considerably younger than you, MY heroes are of this century like Jordy Nelson, John Kuhn....
Wether people agree or disagree with the Covid situation, he misled the NFL rules and caused problems for the Packers.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

According to his disturbing interview on the Pat McAfee show his teammates knew about him not be vaccinated.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the Pat McAfee show and it's probably the one forum where Rodgers appears to be relaxed and candid, as he is surrounded by his buddies. However, the downside is that is the fact that he is surrounded by his buddies, so he is pretty much served up lob balls for questions and in Rodgers fashion, he typically has a very well thought out answer.

 

[gopkrs]

According to his disturbing interview on the Pat McAfee show his teammates knew about him not be vaccinated.

I only saw a little of the interview, the part where he did not make a lot of sense. He looked under the weather to me and who knows how much it affects his thinking right now.

 

[PackerDNA]

I'm actually more confident this week than I was going into the Arizona game. I think that Love and the defense will make just enough plays, and MLF will again have a great plan
Packers 27-24

 

[Budman]

I'm actually more confident this week than I was going into the Arizona game. I think that Love and the defense will make just enough plays, and MLF will again have a great plan
Packers 27-24

It's going to be a good test to see how this team responds, as a team. They know they have a young QB starting, so, will the rest of the team elevate their game? Will ML craft a game plan that is one for the ages? I think they do. I do think that KC is reeling a bit but they smell a little blood in the water and they want to get their program righted this season as well.

 

[Poppa San]

KC has not beaten a team with a current winning record. 3 of their four losses have been to current division leaders and the other to a 2nd place division team. Looks like they beat the teams they should beat but can't handle the contenders.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

No he didn't. He never claimed to have been vaccinated!

If you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you; and after you buy it you'll find out it's actually a guitar bridge but when your complain about false advertising I'll just say I never lied.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

KC has not beaten a team with a current winning record. 3 of their four losses have been to current division leaders and the other to a 2nd place division team. Looks like they beat the teams they should beat but can't handle the contenders.

Unfortunately, without Rodgers, the Packers are a team they should beat. Packers have a chance but there's a reason the Chiefs are heavy favorites now.

 

[mongoosev]

I don't think it's just because he is not vaccinated. Sure some will hold that alone against him but I think for many it is the deceptive, or at least perceived deceptive, way he went about it. Saying he was "immunized" when asked if he was vaccinated for example. Not wearing a mask when unvaccinated players were required to do so. I don't know the exact protocols for unvaccinated players so I cant speak to that but there were plenty of times he was seen maskless. Was he following the proper protocol or not. Many think he was not. League investigation will determine that.

I agree with not following protocol but the bottom line is that he is on the Covid list with players that were vaccinated but he is the only one questioned about following "protocol." Just saying.

 

[OldSchool101]

Not sure if you realize it, but the Packers did have 3 QB's. Rodgers and Love on the 53 and Benkert on the practice Squad. Problem is, Benkert got Covid and Rodgers after him. I believe those two room together on the road.

My fault I realized it sometime later.

 

[mongoosev]

He can be a fill in for an injury since he is the one out with injuries every year.

That is irony at best. funny to be exact.

 

[mongoosev]

Not sure if you realize it, but the Packers did have 3 QB's. Rodgers and Love on the 53 and Benkert on the practice Squad. Problem is, Benkert got Covid and Rodgers after him. I believe those two room together on the road.

And Benkert is VACCINATED. Hmmmmm And people are pointing fingers at Rodgers?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

And Benkert is VACCINATED. Hmmmmm And people are pointing fingers at Rodgers?

You really are having a hard time following the conversation aren't you? You are so hell bent on making this an "anit-vaxers" VS "pro-vaxers" discussion, that you are blinded by what is actually being talked about.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

No he didn't. He never claimed to have been vaccinated!

Right he never "lied", he was just blatantly dishonest.

 

[mongoosev]

When Bill Clinton was being impeached for staining the chubby girl's dress and then lying about it, he was asked directly whether or not he had *** with her. His reply was that of a lawyer splitting hairs - and I paraphrase - "You'll have to define having ***". That was OK too - Clinton was fighting a battle to win Public Opinion support ... so is Aaron Rodgers. Mind you, I want #12 playing - but don't give two hoots about Aaron Rodgers the person. I'm not a "fan" of individual players (except Kramer and Starr - both exceptional human beings) - but I've never purchased their jersey neither.

Rod didn't commit any offense. Was he misleading, yes. However, under the circumstances with regard to Packer's covid rules he didn't break any by not getting vaccinated.